Glock shooting consistently left.


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Nikon777
July 20, 2008, 08:40 PM
I'm basically surgical with my Sigs, but with my G19 I routinely shoot to the left a bit. I know its not the gun because I was the same way with my last 19 (had to sell it).

What am I doing wrong? I tried a little less finger on the trigger. Maybe I'm inadvertently jerking it? No problems at all with my 2 Sigs. Like I said I'm almost surgical with those things, the Glock not so much. I still love the gun though.

Help me out Glock guys.

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GigaBuist
July 20, 2008, 09:03 PM
I routinely shoot to the left a bit.

Begin routinely aiming to the right a bit. :D

How far left are we talking?

RNB65
July 20, 2008, 09:07 PM
The long trigger pull makes DAO/DA handguns a bit more prone to shoot left than SA handguns (thus the reason that I hate revolvers for anything other than SA range shooting). Practice until you can shoot reasonably consistent groups then get the rear sight adjusted to bring the groups back to center.

Rustler
July 20, 2008, 09:10 PM
This diagram may help -

http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf/files/TargetRightHanded.pdf

JBP55
July 20, 2008, 09:14 PM
Move the rear sight to the right until your POA is same as POI.

Nikon777
July 20, 2008, 09:23 PM
This diagram may help -

http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf/files...ightHanded.pdf

Ok, it says too little trigger finger. Guess Ill try adding a little more of the padding on my finger to the trigger.

The G19 comes with the stupid target trigger, I wonder if swapping out to the standard trigger would help also.

W.E.G.
July 20, 2008, 09:52 PM
The G19 comes with the stupid target trigger

What?

Nikon777
July 20, 2008, 09:57 PM
Smooth trigger:
http://www.glockworld.com/images/triggerpull/357.jpg


Target trigger:
http://www.topglock.com/images/4417.JPG

SomeDude
July 21, 2008, 12:48 AM
I'm a black man with a gun, don't be alarmed" I like that.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a young black man during my concealed carry training class. He and I were talking about why we were getting our permits. He said, "People look at me and think I'm packing anyway."

burningsquirrels
July 21, 2008, 01:07 AM
^^^ man that sucks.

did you try verrrrrry veerrrrryyy slowly pulling your trigger while holding it on target and letting the bang suprise you? then you can eliminate if it's the sights.

my friend shot my XD and it was consistent (3" group at 25 feet) but off center by about 6" to the left. as i watched him closer laying another group, i noticed he did two things - one was he had big hands and had his left weak hand index finger on the front of the trigger guard, lol... and the other was using too little trigger finger. when his finger hooked around while shooting strong handed only, he was pulling the gun to the left. taa-daa, problem found.

sometimes i have problems with my XD carry gun because the trigger pull is so different than my CZs. but, i only need to be 6" accurate at 25' for self defense. i may be switching it to a CZ for better familiarity. the SA pull on my CZs are set up real short - and i shoot them about 1200 rounds a month easy. so my carry gun feels real alien to me. i shot it today for the first time in maybe 6 weeks and i was way right and down. :Shrug: so maybe this is a problem you're having too: the sig trigger is familiar and you learned to pull the sig trigger, but the xd trigger is different and what works in a sig trigger pull doesn't work in an XD trigger pull.

lemme know if this helps.

33-805
July 21, 2008, 01:59 AM
Interesting. I did not know that the grooved trigger was called that vs. the smooth one.

yenchisks
July 21, 2008, 02:10 AM
Take your right shoe off ,this may actually help;)

TimboKhan
July 21, 2008, 02:11 AM
I was unaware of the distinction myself. Interesting.

luckyrxc
July 21, 2008, 03:41 AM
This is common for folks new to shooting Glocks. I did it with my G19 when it was new also...I still revert back to it if I am not careful or out of practice. First is grip. Be sure to hold the gun properly...it's a bit different than most. Secondly, many people are left of bullseye and left and down of bullseye. This is somewhere between too little trigger finger and milking the grip with the middle, ring, and pinky fingers. Focus on isolating that trigger finger.
But, if you remove your right shoe you should take care of the problem. Don't adjust the rear sight. :banghead:

JDGray
July 21, 2008, 06:22 AM
Try a 3.5 connector:) My G19 seemed to shoot left, but my G23 hits dead nuts. Can't explain why, same exact trigger:confused:

scott22
July 21, 2008, 07:10 AM
The grooved trigger is added to the compact and sub-compact glocks to qualify as being a "target" trigger which gives them more points for import. The target trigger gives them an extra 2 points (75 are needed for import) and the smaller glocks lose points on length, thus the trigger is needed. Even more points are lost for being under 9mm thus the 380 glocks are not sold here...

Source:
http://glockfaq.com/models.htm#points

Jolly Rogers
July 21, 2008, 08:31 AM
I heard that Glocks sped down range and pushed the target into line with the fired round. Along with firing under water and such...
Ducking and running:D
Joe

Clean97GTI
July 21, 2008, 08:46 AM
its supposed to shoot like that.

you know, perfection and all. ;)

SDC
July 21, 2008, 08:48 AM
This is a problem of trigger technique; you're not pulling the trigger directly back, so when it breaks, the trigger jumps back and pulls the shot to the left. Left-handed shooters generally see their shots pull off to the right. The best cure is lots and lots of dry-fire, and if you can get to the point where you can balance a fired rifle case on the slide while you pull the trigger all the way through, you should be able to see a drastic improvement in consistency on paper.

burningsquirrels
July 21, 2008, 08:58 AM
^^^ i'm going to try that balanced brass on the slide trick. thanks. :)

7mmRemMag
July 21, 2008, 09:32 AM
Take your normal shooting stance, and then pull your right foot backwards the same distance you are shooting to the left.

Make sense?

7mmRemMag
July 21, 2008, 09:36 AM
So if you are shooting consistantly 3in to the left drag your foot 3in back. (This is probably a little more than you are going to need. Just experiment a little w/ distances. Start out w/ dragging your foot 1in then isf that is not enough move it a little more etc. Hope this helps.

DWARREN123
July 21, 2008, 12:04 PM
I had this problem with my G23 and G27 when I first got them. It turned out to be the way I gripped the frame and placement of finger on trigger. Once I corrected this it was dead on. With an unloaded one see how you grip it and look at where your finger places against the trigger. Try changing your grip slightly and make sure you get enough finger on the trigger, I need more finger on the trigger than on some other handguns.

Spenser
July 21, 2008, 04:24 PM
I do the same dadblasted thing with my 17 and 19. I don't with the 26 or 27, and I don't do it with my Sigs or 1911's. It will put them in the same hole, but about 2 inches left every time. Obviously the gun is accurate to its point of aim. It just seems that it and I have a different opinion as to where that is, exactly....I had to drift my sights to the right.

Some of us just ain't suited for bigger Glocks, I think. I'll have to quit buying the stupid things.

Nikon777
October 27, 2009, 04:32 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. I'm just now re-reading this thread and I cant wait to try out these techniques.

Knowing me, Im almost positive its too little trigger finger. I was taught to use just the pad of the index finger. I may need to give a little more as i tend to use only the portion of my finger that the finger nail covers.

zignal_zero
October 27, 2009, 08:54 PM
Nikon777 -

i tend to shoot a Glock better with less finger, but i don't like to, it just feels "wrong". hopefully, YOU, using more finger will help. i'm sure it is a trigger control issue, that's why both your Glocks did it and neither of your Sigs do.

here's something to discourage you: i've been shooting since i was a pup, ONE TIME i found ONE gun i could NOT shoot accurately. it was a Glock. stubborn bastard that i am, i bought one because i was determined to learn to use it as well as all the other handguns i had used. after SEVERAL years of carrying one on/off duty and shooting it ALL the time, i finally accepted defeat and shelved it. some people will just NEVER adjust to the horrible stacking trigger of a Glock.

so, while i hope using more finger solves your problem, my REAL ADVISE - go back to your Sigs. that's what i currently carry and life is good again.

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