[kentucky_smith]

Surprised a thread hasn't been started yet, so here goes.

What's the pistol the Joker is carrying? It's supposedly an full auto, has a stainless slide. GLOCK 18 w/Caspian slide? Definitely not a 92R. Maybe just a prop.

One of the Batman doppelgangers had a mini14.


Lot's of PGO shotguns.

Two-face seems to have a SW 66 snubby, or something similar. Looked bigger than a j-frame.


http://entertainmentmusings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/two-face.jpg

[teflonbilly0]

looked like a G18 with large mag to me.

best quote
Joker: "They are only as good as the world lets them be."

[Wopasaurus]

Wanna see a trick?



not a gun... but that part easily had the best "weapon"

[mr.trooper]

Never though i would see batman with a mini-14! LOL :D

[kingpin008]

Yeah, looked like a G18 w/stainless or chromed slide.

What was the quote from Dent in the courtroom after disarming the mafia thug on the stand? Something about a "28 caliber, made-in-china polymer pistol". Thought that was pretty funny.

[PotatoJudge]

Yeah, the pencil scene was shocking. Pencil deaths tend to get creative (see From Dusk till Dawn).

Something I've always liked about Gotham is that it's the 1920's gone bad. Sort of an art deco/gothic setting where the criminals suit the architecture. It's for that reason that revolvers have always been prominent in Batman comics. The guns help set the tone of the city.

I also liked the part where Bruce takes the double shotgun from one of Joker's thugs and disassembles it in about a second, just pitching the parts to the side as he walks. Pop the lever under the forearm and remove, break gun in half.

At one point he Joker talks about how the gun is an impersonal weapon that distances people from the kill and results in a lack of understanding of what it means to kill a person. This is essentially what Batman says about guns in The Dark Knight Returns, right before he breaks the Joker's neck.

Dent's gun looks like a S&W K frame.

I'm looking forward to "The Guns of Watchmen" thread. Should be awesome.

[Vaarok]

During the street fight, Joker had a MP-40.

[dscottw88]

If i had to guess, I'd say joker was using a glock 18 with a stainless slide. And on the street, are you sure joker was using a MP40?

[chris in va]

Just got back from seeing the movie. Doesn't surprise me everyone on here would examine firearms in the flick.

I'd have to say that's not an MP40. Looked a LOT more like this one, with the wire frame and all. S&W Model 76.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4627/sw762cs6.jpg

MP-40. Note the lack of barrel shroud and no wire stock.
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/204/mp402my4.jpg

EDIT: Yup, Model 76.

http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=19189

[Mumbles_45]

I was gonna guess a Swedish K or a Carl Gustav. The S&W never even occurred to me.

[Vaarok]

When Joker crawled out of the overturned big-rig and was flopping around, he most certainly had a MP-40, the fin on the underside of the front sight was unmistakable.

He did use a M76 during the chase, but it was an MP-40 he had after the crash.

[Kharn]

There were several SBSs in the movie, looked like they were using Speedfeed witness/birdshead grips (0390's the part number for the 870, but I'm not sure on the exact shotgun they used). Another Batman imitator had an Uzi.

Kharn

[LiquidTension]

I certainly saw the 76, never saw an MP40. Guess I'll just have to go back and watch it again :evil:

[Matt King]

Some cops had what looked like 870's.
The prison guards on the boat had mossbergs.
I'm pretty sure two-face had a j-frame.

[XD_fan]

When he bent the barrel of the Mini-14 up my wife turned to me and said, "He didn't."

[smithwr3]

The swat teams had either MP-5A2's or MP-5A4's. Additionally during the fund raiser party Bruce Wayne threw for Harvey Dent, one of the Joker's goons had a Beretta PM-12S submachine gun.

[BlackJackal]

L-O-L saw this last night, best part that made me laugh.. "A 28 caliber carbon fiber pistol" HA HA HA :), when did they start making these? looks like a glock-compact model to me :)

[MaterDei]

My expectations overall were too high for this movie I guess. I was very disappointed. The gun play was OK. I'm not sure why Batman didn't use the guns on the motor bike and/or run him over. Clearly the guy was a threat. Batman has gone soft on us.

[Landlocked Pirate]

I noticed Harvey Dent's gun right away. It appears to be a 3" S&W model 65 .357 just like mine, but it could be a model 64 .38 special.

[arthurcw]

It appears to be a 3" S&W model 65 .357

Yep. +1

[CZ.22]

L-O-L saw this last night, best part that made me laugh.. "A 28 caliber carbon fiber pistol" HA HA HA , when did they start making these? looks like a glock-compact model to me

Funniest part was the line, "Made in China"

My expectations overall were too high for this movie I guess. I was very disappointed. The gun play was OK. I'm not sure why Batman didn't use the guns on the motor bike and/or run him over. Clearly the guy was a threat. Batman has gone soft on us.

Batman didn't kill people in the first movie, remember? I don't think Bale's batman is soft in any way. As a matter of fact, he lays down some serious whoop@$$. Remember George Clooney in his muscle suit? That was Batman gone soft.

I loved the movie. Heath Ledger was amazing as the Joker. Great gunplay, and some cool knives, too.

[chris in va]

Now maybe I was just seeing things, but one of the knives the Joker was using...looked like a potato peeler. The one with a hole in it.

Toward the end of the movie it looked to be concave, like something you'd find in my drawer in the kitchen.:scrutiny:

[Funderb]

My expectations overall were too high for this movie I guess. I was very disappointed. The gun play was OK. I'm not sure why Batman didn't use the guns on the motor bike and/or run him over. Clearly the guy was a threat. Batman has gone soft on us


apparently you are not privy to the batman series at all.

Batman does not kill people. End of discussion.

Heath ledger did and amazing job, and it was nice to see him carrying something not in plastic.:neener:
The second subgun was an mp40 for sure!

[Thernlund]

Heath Ledger was amazing as the Joker.

He was. Heath Ledger was an awesome actor. It's rather upsetting that he can't reprise the role in the future.

They probably should have killed off the Joker when Ledger died.

I think the only way the salvage the role will be to find an unknown who can give the same intensity and conviction to it that Ledger gave. I mean, right down to how Ledge was constanly licking his cheeks the same way someone with such scares might do.

ANYBODY with ANY kind of a "name" in that role will wreck it for me I think.


-T.

[Seancass]

man, i was way off on this stuff. I thought the revolver was a ruger, sp101 or so, and that the machine pistols where majic auto springfield xd's. the stainless slide over black makes me think xd.

oh and Ledger was Perfect as the joker. i thought 2-face was very well done also, but unfortunate that he was presumably dead.

also, the joker is not done. Remember this is about the first time Batman characters have carried over from one movie to the next. I don't know how any one else could do it as well as Ledger did. I thought the scene outside the hospital where the bomb didn't go off correctly was awsome too.

[ScottyT]

Now maybe I was just seeing things, but one of the knives the Joker was using...looked like a potato peeler. The one with a hole in it.

Toward the end of the movie it looked to be concave, like something you'd find in my drawer in the kitchen.

When they are emptying his pockets at the police station, I am pretty sure there was a potato peeler that was placed on the table last.

I think his primary knife is the Cupid Out-the-Front Automatic, but without serrations on the blade.
http://www.uniqueblade.com/images/products/cupid%203.0%20otf.jpg

[Thernlund]

i thought 2-face was very well done also, but unfortunate that he was presumably dead.

He was always a minor villian anyway. And he was a tad over CG'd in my opinion.


-T.

[poor_richard]

I think his primary knife is the Cupid Out-the-Front Automatic, but without serrations on the blade.I thought it was a Microtech.

[TR Gabriel]

What was the makeshift gun that Harvey used when he interrogated the fake officer? The officer that Harvey got after the funeral and parade for the commissioner.

[romeo212000]

I dont know if anyone will be able to pull off joker like ledger did. It would have to be an exact character. Ledger established to benchmark for Joker and Joker still has a long way left to go in the Batman Story

[Eightball]

What was the makeshift gun that Harvey used when he interrogated the fake officer?That looked like some form of J-frame to me (I was judging by the rear sight groove in the frame, didn't exactly get a good look at the rest of the pistol--dark coloring on a carbon-steel gun in the dark doesn't allow for much).

And for you people saying "oh, it was an MP40"--no, it wasn't. MP40s don't fire quite that fast, or have a side-folding wire stock. Or a vented barrel shroud.

Picture:http://www.yourprops.com/norm-482a68d6692d8-Dark+Knight%2C+The+%282008%29.jpeg
Note that the wire-stock and profile are far too "blocky" to be an MP40, as well as the fact that the stock is not an underfolder like the MP40.

[neviander]

He was. Heath Ledger was an awesome actor. It's rather upsetting that he can't reprise the role in the future.

They probably should have killed off the Joker when Ledger died.

I think the only way the salvage the role will be to find an unknown who can give the same intensity and conviction to it that Ledger gave. I mean, right down to how Ledge was constanly licking his cheeks the same way someone with such scares might do.

ANYBODY with ANY kind of a "name" in that role will wreck it for me I think.

I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen trailers for it. As sacrilege as it sounds, Tom Cruise might be a viable replacement, DON'T HANG ME YET! Movies like Magnolia, Interview with a Vampire, Vanilla Sky, Collateral, movies that, in my opinion, brought out some of his best stuff are good examples of the one mindedness that Cruise can portray; and maybe transfer over to the Joker. Who knows, we went from Jack Nicholson to Heath Ledger...I'm not sure anybody can top Nicholson's maniacal laugh though :cool:

[romeo212000]

Well Cruise is crazy. He might not have to prepare that much.

[Just Jim]

The full auto the joker is firing at Batman as he walks down the street is either an S&W 76 or an MK760. 750 rpm so I think the real sound of the gun was dubbed over.

jj

[maddog1775]

Batman does not kill people. End of discussion.
Depends on your version of Batman. In the original Bob Kane comics, he killed bad guys all the time. It was sort of his thing.

[k9870]

www.imfdb.org

all the movie guns you want.

[mgregg85]

Yeah I really liked Dark Knight but I don't like how soft batman has become.

What is honorable about letting a criminal try to kill you and go on to kill others with impunity?

I thought the batman in this new series was supposed to be a darker version.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

k9870,

I'd like to kill you, I mean thank you, for enlightening me to the internet movie firearms database site. I've just spend over an hour there quite intrigued - awesome site. Yeah, thanks - thanks a lot. :( :mad: :)

[withdrawn34]

I think Batman does kill people sometimes, but he generally does it hand to hand. I don't think I've ever seen him use a projectile weapon like a gun.

[zoom6zoom]

The S&W never even occurred to me.
Unfortunately for S&W, it never occurred to many of their potential customers, either.

[Wolfebyte]

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Dark_Knight

In the Movie the following weapons are used/seen


* 1 WZ.83 Pallad D
* 2 Beretta 92FS
* 3 Beretta 92FS Inox
* 4 Glock 17
* 5 Glock 17 (Converted to full-auto)
* 6 Walther P99
* 7 Glock 26 (fictional mock up)
* 8 Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub
* 9 GE M134 Minigun
* 10 SIG-Sauer P229
* 11 Smith & Wesson Model 36
* 12 Smith & Wesson Model 64
* 13 M16A2
* 14 M4A1 Carbine
* 15 Heckler & Koch MP5A2
* 16 Heckler & Koch MP5A3
* 17 Remington Model 700PSS
* 18 Blaser 93
* 19 M1 Garand
* 20 Norinco Type 69 RPG
* 21 Skorpion SA Vz 61
* 22 AKMSU
* 23 IMI Mini Uzi
* 24 Ruger Mini-14
* 25 Smith & Wesson 5904
* 26 Remington 870 Sawed-off
* 27 Remington 870
* 28 Double Barrel Shotgun
* 29 Mossberg 500
* 30 Mossberg 590
* 31 Benelli M3 Super 90
* 32 Smith & Wesson M76
* 33 MAC-11
* 34 MAC-10
* 35 Beretta PM12S
* 36 Smith & Wesson Model 10
* 37 The Joker's Grenades
* 38 SIG-Sauer P226
* 39 Colt Police Positive
* 40 Browning M2HB
* 41 Unknown Revolver #1
* 42 Unknown Revolver #2

[Dirty Dawg]

LOVED the movie. Got a Blu-Ray copy for Christmas and sat down to watch it last night. Excellent entertainment in high-def. What more can be said about Ledger's Joker? Can you say Oscar? I'd put money on it.

Back to weapons, at 1:19, GC SWAT member in a chopper above the big chase scene, EBR in hand. I thought something looked odd, rewound, paused and sure enough, it looks like the "Operator's" EBR was sporting an EOTech mounted backwards on the rail in front of the carry handle. Anyone else notice this???

[maddog1775]

It was not an EOTech. It was a Trijicon reflex, and it was mounted correctly.

[Seenterman]

I hope they NEVER have the Joker as a main villian again, why. Ledger's role can never duplicated with the same intensity and charisma. God he was good. Moving forward they should only refer to the Joker in passing, or in a breif scene locked up in Arkahm (??) . I loved the Joker, to go with another actor I feel will betray the protrail of Ledgers, Joker.

What type of sawed off shotgun was the mafia bank manager wielding during the opening robbery?

There we go; gun related. :)

[Dimis]

ok comic dork coming out but i have to add my 2 cents
Batman Doesnt like to kill it doesnt mean he hasnt killed generaly speaking no ones batman (Kane Frank Miller etc..) has ever killed for sport (i.e. punishing criminals)his entire moral code is based on the fact that murder caused him to find a way that no one will ever feel his personal pain again and that revenge (attempting to kill his parents murderers) will not work as closure and that onlt the law has a means to the end of crime
as for two face being a bit part in the comics thats a big NO he is major player maybe not as famous as joker but he plays a HUGE role in gotham as previous DA Harvey Dent and then later as the psychotic Two-Face he played a huge roll in a story line called "time to kill" wich was about an attempt on robins life and that spawned a line of assasination attempts untill joker finaly got the boy wonder
speaking of joker the licking wasnt neccessarily part of the scarring its been rumored that ledger did it because he studied the side effects of certain skitzofrainia medications and a prolonged abuse of one drug would cause salivation and constant licking
as for the potato pealer he had that in his jacket and the knife he used during the party scene i believe is a benchmade OTF switchblade (i could be wrong on that) did anyone else notice that the pencil was point down eraser up for the "trick" now thats painful!
Ledger did MORE than play the role he lived it ive read batman since i was a small child and no one has ever been filmed "being" the joker like ledger he litteraly pulled the psychosis off the pages onto the screen its a sad shame he can never reprise the roll and if they do recast i pray they find someone that will play ledgers joker and not try to become famous and play it differently

ive watched the movie SEVERAL times now thrice in the theater and countless times on DVD this is the best batman we have ever had as far as the comic version goes and i hope they continue for a long time

thanks for letting me rant

[lance22]

As far as a knife he uses a lot in the movie:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_f3SZ5Tu916o/SX3yilAI_sI/AAAAAAAAMN4/pAnIA5YFDqA/s400/newjokerphoto.jpg

The point doesn't look anything like the one's featured on the 'net as "Joker's Knife".

[manfromyard]

Depends on your version of Batman. In the original Bob Kane comics, he killed bad guys all the time. It was sort of his thing.

I have to agree that even in the Bob Kane era, the Batman never used guns to kill the criminals IIRC.

[Crawfish141]

I was gonna guess a Swedish K or a Carl Gustav. The S&W never even occurred to me.

All three are basically the same thing. I believe the S&W is a licensed copy.

[gabrielvox]

Two small points. Why does anyone try to quantify the Joker's weapons? He's a psycho in the purist form of the word. So yea, one of his hold outs is a sharpened potato peeler, and he'll use any weapon he can get his hands from crowbar to plastic explosives.

Two, when Batman bends the barrel it very obviously shows the new servo-system in his arms doing the work, you will even hear a high-pitched gyro whine. They are used again when he cuts into the van's side.

Lastly, yea thats three not two, whatever, as much as I like examining the guns in movies, it is based on a comic book, so if there is a ".28 calibre polymer made in China gun" that doesn't fire, there's a guy in a blue and red suit from an alien planet that teams up with Batman all the time too, let's give them some fictional leeway.

[otcconan]

good site: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Main_Page