Hi Point .45


July 21, 2008, 10:58 PM
I picked one up today, after reading numerous reviews and posts about how terrible they are, or how they're great guns for the money.

My first impression was how incredibly ugly it is. Then after I picked it up and held it, I couldn't get over how cheaply made it felt, and how top heavy it is. At $179, I still bought it anyways, simply because I don't have anything else that cheap that I'm not sentimentally attached to, and my kel tec .32 doesn't inspire much confidence with it's mighty 71 grain bullets.

I shot the cheap WWB 230 grain fmj through it, and it never jammed, and I actually hit better with it than with my new glock 17 (my glock had one malfunction today too, and it's only got 150 rounds through it:fire:). The other guy shooting with me hit better with the hi point than the glock too. That doesn't really mean anything obviously, but I was expectin minute of barn kinda accuracy from it, and FTF/FTE every shot.

While I didn't put many rounds through it, I'm definitely not disappointed with my purchase. It will never be the first gun I grab in an emergency, but it'll do in a pinch, and it won't break my heart after it's gets all scratched up riding around in the trunk.

Also, will hi points feed HPs? What about +P ammo, is that safe? There's obviously a lot of steel in the gun judging by the weight, but I don't know how strong that cast pot metal crap is, and if it's going to fly into pieces if I shoot some doubletap through it.

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July 21, 2008, 11:03 PM
ive put all kind of ammo thugh mine and the only thing that dident work was i belive pmc, but the with the lifetime warrenty you shouldent have to worry about the ammo hurting anything

July 21, 2008, 11:08 PM
I think Hi-Point claims an "occasional +P" rating.

I shot some DoubleTap though my C-9 this weekend and it didn't 'splode. Actually it was really manageable and surprisingly accurate, as usual.

My plan is to carry the +P and shoot it occasionally to prove operation. It's my open carry piece until I can get something better. Not that I don't like the Hi-Point, because I do have a special place in my heart for this big/ugly/heavy gun.

July 21, 2008, 11:12 PM
Hi-Point claims it's safe to fire any 45acp ammo made.......and I believe 'em.

I've owned 3 HP's and I was most impressed by the 45. It always ran like a sewing machine without a hiccup. I've since sold them and moved on and up, but I've always admired the HP Firearms Co. There is definetly a niche in the gun market for firearms such as Hi-Points and they fill it well.

Ohio Rifleman
July 21, 2008, 11:38 PM
Hi Points are big, heavy, clunky guns. From what I understand, though, they are surprisingly reliable and accurate. How you could conceal it, though, is beyond me. Like trying to conceal a brick, especially the 45.

July 22, 2008, 12:02 AM
guys yall might just talk me into one of those beasts....... i found them new for $150

July 22, 2008, 12:23 AM
It's my open carry piece until I can get something better.

BG's will fear it as a gun and a large club.

July 22, 2008, 01:18 AM
Myself, I just bought a H-P 4095 .40 carbine, and have yet to shoot it. But I'm anxiously awaiting the long-rumored 4595 carbine. My 4095 is dang sure ugly and utility looking, kinda like a big ol' homely farm girl that can work from dawn to dusk. I expect it to be lots of fun!

July 22, 2008, 03:25 AM
I like the .45 best but the balance of the C9 is better. My C9 is not nearly as reliable as my .45

July 22, 2008, 10:17 AM
I think Hi Point says on there web site that all of there guns are rated for +P and +P+ ammo

July 22, 2008, 10:35 AM
i bought one used for $95 and traded it for a case of 9mm ammo. :)

Oh yeah, funny thing was the guy originally wanted 250 for it hahahaha i worked with him so spent all day telling him what a peice of poo it was and i wouldnt pay 100 for it so he said ok 95

July 22, 2008, 11:21 AM
I have the .45 and if I ever lost it I wouldn't hesitate to get a second. I must admit my p11 is a tad easier to conceal.

July 22, 2008, 11:35 AM
I can only speak for the 995 carbine.All the parts that need to be steel are steel, the barrel, boltface, extractor and firing pin. The action is cast Zamak3, a zinc aluminum magnesium compound, whose weight and strength mimic steel but simplify the manufacturing process. Overall fit and finish are fair to good and generally they need several hundred rounds of break in.Although you can find the rough spots by cycling the action and doing a fluff and buff to eliminate any roughness.Mine is now encased in an ATI stock with both a red dot which it came with, and a laser that is made for the ATI stock.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/C5Sam/Laser995.jpg

July 22, 2008, 12:10 PM
But they're so ugly!!!

July 22, 2008, 12:26 PM
I thought about getting one for a beater, and sticking it in the emergency/survival pack.

July 22, 2008, 09:55 PM
I've got a bid on a Ruger P89 at $172, and I'd take it over any three Hi Points ever created.

July 23, 2008, 12:18 AM
I broke down and bought a C9....$150. For the price I figured what the hell.... To be honest I like it. The look kind of grew on me and I shot great with it. I bought a hogue grip for it and it feels good. It's the only 9mm I own (for now) and I plan on hanging on to it. The only real down side is what an extreme pain it is to break down.:banghead:

July 23, 2008, 02:31 AM
HP's are different. This from the distributor.

-----------beginning of email ----------------
From: Mkshpoint@aol.com [mailto:Mkshpoint@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:19 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Cleaning Instructions


Although some customers who have Hi Point Firearms are capable of it, MKS recommends that you do not take the gun apart. The exploded view in the manual is not intended to be a detailed disassembly guide. It is really just to note the basic steps for those who feel qualified. The way MKS recommends to clean a Hi Point is to blow the inner area out with a mild aerosol solvent once or twice a year. (Of course wear eye protection). This gets out any accumulated grime and dirt that may have been attracted and held in there by the oil. Clean the barrel with a good bore solvent after you get home from shooting. This is all we do after thousands of rounds of shooting. Oil lightly, and the gun is ready for the next session of shooting. If you feel that you must take the gun apart, but need help, please phone the factory and talk with a mechanic there. They can be reached at (419) 747-9444 Mon.-Thurs. 7am-5pm EST.

Hope this helps!

MKS Supply, Inc.
Marketer of Hi-Point Firearms

July 23, 2008, 03:26 AM
i love them. i cant wait for the .45 carbine!

July 23, 2008, 10:45 AM
I have handled but never shot any HP pistols but really like my .40 carbine. If I have the carbine with me when I take my kids to the range, I never get to shoot it. Once you get past the looks of them, they are good shooting guns.

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