Cap and ball revolver recommendations.


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FLoppyTOE
July 22, 2008, 06:33 PM
I have the urge to get a percussion cap revolver. They are historically interesting to me, and also seem like they would be very satisfying to shoot. I believe I am leaning towards an 1860 army (working replica of course), but i haven't made up my mind yet.

I'm welcoming any advice on perhaps a different model, and/ or a recommendations on a manufacturer.

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zxcvbob
July 22, 2008, 09:56 PM
I'm partial to the 1858 Remingtons.
I have an old Ruger 7.5" stainless Old Army that I like, but they have gotten so expensive, and the reproductions have gotten so much better since I bought my Ruger, that I couldn't recommend a ROA unless you fall into a really good deal for it.

Voodoochile
July 22, 2008, 10:07 PM
The 1860 Colt Army or the 1858 Remington New Model Army clones are among my favorites & you can not go wrong with either Uberti or Pietta in quality & finish.

As far as other manufacturers of these reproductions go I'm sure that they are good quality but I can not say as to my lack of experience with them.

scrat
July 22, 2008, 10:22 PM
two thumbs up for the 1860 and the 1851. Both are great shooters and natural born shooters

grimjaw
July 22, 2008, 10:42 PM
The 1860 Army I tried was just a little front heavy for me. The 1851 balances great. The Rem. 1858, although large, seemed to balance fine, too. I haven't had the opportunity to shoot the 1851 yet, but my palms itch just thinking about it.

jm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2683427189_f2904da62a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/grimjaw/2683427189/)

mtngunr
July 22, 2008, 11:07 PM
According to a friend who has written several books on BP handguns, the latest Ubertis are quite good....generally, the Remington design won't shoot loose near as fast as a Colt design, but the Colt will go longer before gumming up....for honkin' big accurate shooter, the ROA is hard to beat...deals are still out there on the ROA with patient shopping, such as, you'll eventually find a new or near-new one for about Uberti price....get whichever one pleases you most....I like the way the light Colts handle and point....

Reddbecca
July 22, 2008, 11:14 PM
Whichever black powder revolver you get, absolutely avoid anything with a brass frame.

Smokin_Gun
July 22, 2008, 11:15 PM
I'd highly recomend an 1858 NMA Remington .44 as a 1st C&B Revolver...and in My Honest Opinion the Best Rev made of the 19th Century C&B Revs.
:what:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-11-08_0622.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-07-08_1137.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/ColtPietta.jpg

SG:cool:

scrat
July 22, 2008, 11:50 PM
nice pics sg.

Smokin_Gun
July 23, 2008, 01:01 AM
Thanks Scrat, can you tell I really favor Rems? I do have almost as many Colt I guess.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-07-08_1902.jpg

SG

Tomahawk674
July 25, 2008, 07:26 PM
Smoking Gun, that's enough revolvers to stage a little re-enactment!

zxcvbob
July 25, 2008, 08:51 PM
Before you dive into a BP revolver, realize that you need to take it apart, down to the last screw and nipple, then wash it thoroughly in soap and water, scrub it, dry it, lube it.

???

I've never taken the nipples out of my ROA. It's stainless, so maybe that's why I got away with it. When I clean the thing (every time I shoot it, which isn't very often) I remove the cylinder and the grips, and put the frame and the cylinder in the dishwasher and run it through the quick cycle.

scrat
July 25, 2008, 10:29 PM
I totally agree you dont have to strip it everytime. not alot of people do just depends a lot on you and how you shoot. What you use for lube.

Reddbecca
July 25, 2008, 11:41 PM
Do you really need to completely strip your gun down to every last single individual component to clean it after shooting a black powder load?

Tom Krein
July 25, 2008, 11:50 PM
I NEED to get a pair of 1851's!! I LOVE the way they look!

I have a Remington and it is a GREAT blaster!

Tom

Tomahawk674
July 25, 2008, 11:50 PM
"Do you really need to completely strip your gun down to every last single individual component to clean it after shooting a black powder load?"

I asked myself the same question, cause I'm kind of lazy. However, I took a close look and found that after firing, there's a black layer or charred residue in the front of the hammer and on the nipples, from the caps. Also, I can see traces of the blast on the cylinder bolt and below (topside of the trigger guard). I just wouldn't want to leave that on for a few days for fear of some kind of corrosion.

Smokin_Gun
July 26, 2008, 12:25 AM
Tomahawk674 Smoking Gun, that's enough revolvers to stage a little re-enactment!

We'll need willing bodies unless we fight Jackrabbits and Rattlesnakes in a live fire exercise. Ain't been too bad out here, 102f to 109f or so...

SG

Sagetown
July 26, 2008, 12:34 AM
FloppyToe; :p These 1860 Army's are a beautiful piece of History. You'll relish its fine workmanship. And :D if the bug bites hard enough you'll end up like Smokin_Gun.

KiltedClaymore
July 26, 2008, 12:38 AM
+! on the 1858

stronger build than open top colts (dont flame, my experiance)

scrat
July 26, 2008, 12:39 AM
here is some of my babys
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PRM
July 27, 2008, 08:12 AM
Nice guns. I cut my teeth on percussion revolvers. Years ago they were cheaper to shoot than cartridge guns and that was a big draw for me. I started with Uberti Colts and as I could afford them upgraded to 2nd Generation Colt BPs. (Although that could be argued since Uberti had a hand in making the raw parts for Colt.) Oh well - some thoughts:

My Walker is very accurate and never fails, just a pain to tote around. Big and heavy.

I have always been drawn to the .36 calibres: 1862 Pocket Navy and Pocket Police models. Easy to carry, reasonably accurate, and just plain fun. I have had few problems with either of these models. The Pocket Police goes with me on a regular basis. Great little camping and woods gun. (Before anybody goes ballistic - I did not say I was bear or hog hunting with a .36)

My all time favorite is the 1851 Navy. I have 2, 2nd Generation Colts that are a hoot. These guns are smooth, accurate, and above all classic in style. It doesn't take long to see why they were such a favorite.

Lots of different models and types out there - personal preference really comes into play. Buy the best quality you can afford. I would agree with reddbecca. Stay away from brass frames. They may not give you trouble unless you shoot a lot - but they will be affected in resale value. Some reenactment groups do not allow them and that would limit your market if you ever wanted to upgrade later. Be patient in learning. They require more cleaning, and as you go you will learn little tricks such as crimping your caps so they stay on better. These guns are fun, unique, and will give a lifetime of pleasure before becoming heirlooms.

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