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straight-shooter
July 23, 2008, 03:53 PM
Now the wait begins... I just purchased this Uberti / Cimarron 1848 3rd Model Dragoon. It should show up at the door step Monday. I almost went with a Walker this time but this Dragoon just jumped out at me. The Walker will be next on the short list I'm sure.

This Dragoon looks to be so nice I'll almost hate to take it out and fire it but then again....... ah what the heck. That's what their made for. :neener: :D

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/straightshooter44/wm_598616.jpg

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Tomahawk674
July 23, 2008, 04:54 PM
Very nice gun you got yourself there, what's the typical powder load for that?

straight-shooter
July 23, 2008, 05:00 PM
50 grains is the standard of pure big grinnin' fun ! :D Although I will work a accurate load probably more around 40 to 45 grains of Goex FFF.

Tomahawk674
July 23, 2008, 06:44 PM
that's only twice of what I use in my navy! :D must be fun to shoot!

thx997303
July 23, 2008, 06:54 PM
I want that.

straight-shooter
July 23, 2008, 07:53 PM
I want that.

Same thing Hugh Heffner says every morning he sees one of the girls :D

72coupe
July 23, 2008, 07:58 PM
I have a very nice Uberti just like it. I shoot 200 grain conicals in mine. I liiiiiiike it.

I may be the only one but I think the 3rd model is a much better gun than the Walker.

straight-shooter
July 23, 2008, 08:02 PM
72coupe, I have to agree based on what I've read about the history of the two guns. The Dragoon has some refinements conceived after the Walker was originally made. I certainly won't hesitate to have a Walker in the collection as it's a fine firearm in it's own right but the 3rd model Dragoon slightly edges it out in my opinion.

I will certainly give those conicals a try as I have yet to try them.

72coupe
July 23, 2008, 09:23 PM
When I was a young 2nd Lt on orders to go to Veitnam I had an 1860 Army and a 2nd Model Dragoon replicas. I took 30 days leave and stood in my father in laws field and fired these 2 pistols, alternating hands, at a 20 inch plow disc at 20 yards.

I fired the pistols so many times that they both shot loose. But by the time I left I could fire those from the hip with either hand and hit the disk every time.

I truly believe that this type of instinct shooting saved my life more than once.

straight-shooter
July 24, 2008, 02:44 PM
72coupe - That is certainly a very interesting story and thank you for sharing. Secondly, thank you for serving in Vietnam to preserve our rights and our freedom. The same goes for all your buddys you served with over there.

straight-shooter
July 26, 2008, 05:30 PM
Well the Dragoon arrived today!

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/straightshooter44/1848Dragoonweb.jpg

scrat
July 26, 2008, 05:48 PM
your really going to like that. i have a Cimarron Walker. very very good gun. the quality is superb. so is the finish

straight-shooter
July 26, 2008, 06:33 PM
Thanks to people on this forum it made the decision for getting a Cimarron a easy guess. Believe me I'm not disappointed either. Sweet piece indeed ! Next up is certainly the Walker.

44goon
July 28, 2008, 05:00 AM
I too just got a Uberti 3rd Model Dragoon & took it to the range last Friday.

Let me tell you "you will not be disapointed in your choise":D

It appears we went through the same ideas as I too liked the Walker but the dropping of the loading ram put me off it, went for the 3rd Model Dragoon & after shooting it, I'm looking for a partner for it for western action & that is causing me a lot of pain trying to find another one here in Australia :banghead:

Shoot it & you'll love it even more.

enjoy your new toy & take care.

All the best.

44goon. :cool:

straight-shooter
July 28, 2008, 02:49 PM
Welcome to the forum 44goon. Kinda of cool to see that western re-enactments are being done in the land down under! I hope to get the Dragoon out soon and give it a go. I'm sure I'll be smiling ear to ear. :)

straight-shooter
July 30, 2008, 04:52 PM
I just returned from the range and what a blast, literally. The dragoon certainly barks with authority! Nice low deep loud boom! I fired rounds from 25 yards and aimed low to hit near center. Only flaw is the loading lever like on the Walker dropped after every shot. I was using 46 grains of Goex FFF.

Certainly alot of fun and I'm sure to return to the range for another go around. This outing I fired 30 shots total. Here are two of the targets that were used.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/straightshooter44/Target02_web.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/straightshooter44/Target01_web.jpg

72coupe
July 30, 2008, 08:17 PM
Straight shooter, Take a hack saw and carefully deepen the groove. Just a couple firm strokes should do it, it did on my.

straight-shooter
July 30, 2008, 08:42 PM
Excellent 72coupe. Next trip out at the range and I'll give it a try.

Thanks

mec
July 30, 2008, 11:06 PM
at the front of the frame between the barrel and loading lever, you can see a dark spot. It doesnt show the full size and shape of it but it's where I used a vice to pinch the frame. This lets the lever drop only an inch and keeps it from tying up the gun
I tried a number of other things-fiddling with the depth of the lever detent notch and putting a small pistol primer behind the spring to make it stronger. Nothing worked out perfectly but this makes shooting it more convenient.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=82206&stc=1&d=1217473399

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=82207&stc=1&d=1217473743

Tomahawk674
July 31, 2008, 01:21 AM
Nice shots, the gun looks great. Man, I have to learn to be accurate one handed...

Coyote Hunter
July 31, 2008, 11:59 AM
My 2nd model also drops the loading leaver with anything over 40 grains. I noticed on an original, the catch is a little deeper and more flat in the notch where the end rests. My Uberti is not so deep and squared off. I wuz wondering how to fix it, I thought about using a dremmel tool, but keep scaring myself off. The hack saw blade with a fine tooth sounds reasonable. I'll have to try it.

44goon
July 31, 2008, 09:01 PM
Guys,

I took my 3rd Model Dragoon out for a run & it's a blast :cool:

I've busted my gun hand up so to shoot I'm only using 35grn fffg & it's very comfortable to shoot. Now the question I have for you guys is what are the squared trigger guards on the Dragoon like when fired :confused: I will more than likely have to shoot reduced loads for quite some time they tell me & it appears that I have the last 3rd model Dragoon here in Australia :mad: I have to get another Dragoon within a month as my permit runs out & the only other Dragoon is a Whitneyville with the squared T/G. just need to know do I have to worry about the squared T/G when I'm using a reduced load ?

Beretta Australia is very slow to get Uberti's in to this country & a friend had to wait 18 months for a 38-40 S.A. revolver & I don't want to wait that long for a Dragoon :banghead: I like the look of the Whitneyville Dragoon but the T/G worries me a little bit.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Take care & all the best from Australia.

44goon :cool:

mec
July 31, 2008, 09:06 PM
I have yet to find a hard kicking load for the dragoon. It rolls up in your hand a bit but I never have any problems getting spurred by the dragoon trigger guard.

mykeal
August 1, 2008, 07:56 AM
I have a 2nd and a 3rd and have had no problems with the 2nd trigger guard (it's also square backed) at any load.

scrat
August 1, 2008, 04:56 PM
Mec

i used to deal with that all the time with my Walker. now i just remove the forward screw on the loading lever and take it off before i shoot. it takes what 5 seconds to remove. Then i dont have to deal with the loading lever falling at all.

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