View Full Version : Ballistics for a 38 derringer?
Okiecruffler
July 23, 2008, 10:13 PM
Before we get into the good vs useless discussion on the derringer let me say this question is just curiousity. Already had a 38 derringer, was a fun toy, but so was my jackinthebox, doesn't mean I want another one. But does anyone have the actual numbers for the 38 special, or any other bigger bores out of the derringer?
No Quarter
July 23, 2008, 10:24 PM
My .44 mag Bond Arms will throw a 240gr JSP bullet at 1100 fps. If you do a search for "derringer", one of the board members has done some ballistics testing with derringers in various calibers.
M2 Carbine
July 24, 2008, 01:01 AM
I chronographed my 45ACP Bond Arms Derringer.
45 Aguila IQ does 1245 FPS.
1942 GI FMJ does745 FPS (but the old ammo has lost about 25-50 FPS)
230gr Federal HS does 787 FPS
Winchester 185 gr Silvertip does 866 FPS
I've had a 38 Derringer for years that I leave on the tractor for snakes but I don't have any chrono numbers.
About the only other info I have is the accuracy tests I did a couple years ago.
Well, not really accuracy tests, the gun is accurate but this is about as good as I can shoot it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Bond4510yards.jpg
Okiecruffler
July 24, 2008, 01:21 AM
So far not as much loss as I was expecting.
sig220mw
July 26, 2008, 05:23 AM
How about those Bond Arms derringers. I'm thinking about getting one.
What do you guys think of them?
M2 Carbine
July 26, 2008, 11:24 PM
What do you guys think of them?
They are well made.
Expensive.
Big and heavy for a Derringer.
Has a very hard trigger pull (necessary since while handling the gun it's easy to accidentally pull the trigger)
Changing the calibers is a nice feature.
I don't carry mine, since for the size and weight I could carry something like a steel 2 inch S&W.
A Derringer is somewhat slow and awkward to get into action, so when I bought my Bond 45ACP I loaded a thousand target loads for it to get a lot of practice. At that time I was still considering pocket carrying the Bond.
grendelbane
July 27, 2008, 10:16 AM
I have only chronographed a couple of derringers, a .32 ACP and a .22LR, but both performed very well.
No cylinder gap, and no slide to reciprocate is the reason.
It is a shame that they are so difficult to shoot.
The .32 ACP I chronographed would almost make 1100 fps with the 60 grain Fiochi hollow points.
BullpupBen
July 27, 2008, 10:35 AM
Derringers have no cylinder gap, no action to work, and with respect to their sides, very long barrels. I would expect them to have more velocity than a snubby, and about the same as a subcompact auto.
For example if you get the 5" Texas Defender and put 9mm barrels on it, I would expect velocity to exceed a Glock 17.
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