Timney, McCormick, etc trigger for AR


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HJ857
July 24, 2008, 04:00 PM
Hey all,

Got another question.

I have a 6.5 Grendel upper that shoots well, but even though I have a nice RR NM trigger, I think it's too heavy for longer range accuracy use.

I'm now thinking I should just spring for a bench type trigger such as a McCormick, Timney, and so forth.

Anyone have any opinions on what's the best bet for this use? Durability is a factor I'd consider important. Adjustability would be nice, but maybe not a deal breaker.

Thanks all.

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ryoushi
July 24, 2008, 04:17 PM
I have a RRA two stage as well and have been looking to upgrade. Strictly from my surfing around on the web it seems Geissele (http://www.geissele.com/detail.aspx?ID=4) and JP Enterprises (http://www.jprifles.com/1.4.8.php) have lots of very satisfied users.

I think I'll just send mine to Bill Springfield (http://www.triggerwork.net/) and see how that goes.

McKnife
July 24, 2008, 04:20 PM
I had the chance to try out the McCormick a few days ago... no creep at all and crystal-clean break.

However, I prefer the RRA because I like the initial creep... then when I feel resistance, I know that it'll break right after.

I don't know how the RRA ranks in terms of 'combat reliability' but the McCormick has had GREAT results.
See here:
http://www.ar15.com/content/products/triggers/mccormick/


If I had the money, I'd get the McCormick and just get used to not having creep.

Big44mag
July 24, 2008, 04:38 PM
I have a Geissele Match in my long range AR and it is awesome. When they say "High Speed" they are NOT kidding, the only bad thing I can say about the trigger is the cost but they are supposed to be introducing a non-adjustable version that is to sell for around $150. I have a couple of Jard single stage adjustable triggers 1.5 & 3 that I like, but I haven't tried their 2 stage triggers yet.

MMcfpd
July 24, 2008, 08:25 PM
For a single stage, my experience has been that the Jard non-adjustable triggers are the most reliable. I've put several thousand rounds on them with zero problems. The Timneys are "crispier," but I've just recently (last weekend and today) had a problem with one failing to fire on the first pull. I haven't figured that out yet. My first outing with a McCormick had the trigger fail on the third 30 round magazine. That was a Gen II CMC, which was sent back to McCormick. They found no problem with it; a recall of those triggers was announced a few weeks later.

For a two stage, the Geissele High Speed is the cream of the crop, available in three configurations (Service, DMR and Match) and adjustable. At $279 it's a little pricey. But Geissele is slowly bringing their non-adjustable two stage SSA trigger to market at $145. There's a 4-5 month wait, though. I do have one, and I'll be getting more (I'm 3 months into the wait for my second and 2 months in on my third).

As much as I like my Jard singles, I can't recommend their two stage as its transition to second stage is pretty mushy compared to others.

An alternative to the Geissele SSA that is readily available and in the same price range is the LMT non-adjustable two stage.

browningguy
July 24, 2008, 10:49 PM
What they said. I love the McCormick trigger, I've got two of them in AR lowers I use for hunting. But they are still too heavy for real bench triggers (around 3.5 lb's). I really like the JP or Gieselle for bench rest work. The Mc's have been absolutely reliable and are as clean and crisp a trigger as you need in a hunting/IPSC rifle though.

Taurus44
July 24, 2008, 10:54 PM
I have four Jard non-adjustable (single-stage) triggers now, including a 3# in my Grendel build. They are the only triggers I'll ever put in my ARs. Performance for the price is fantastic.

bogie
July 24, 2008, 11:14 PM
Jewell two-stage if you ever want to get into any CMP type of competition action with the lower.

Dienekes
July 25, 2008, 12:39 AM
I like my Jard two-stage just fine.

AR-15 Rep
July 25, 2008, 12:49 AM
check with McCormick about the triggers, someone mentioned they could not get some parts a few weeks back.

HJ857
July 25, 2008, 12:42 PM
Thanks for all the info. Bogie's comment made me look at the Jewell carefully and after some research I decided to go with it. Since I do use one lower with two uppers and for entirely different usage, the ease of adjustment of the Jewell made it the top choice.

I should have a range report in a week.

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