[DonP]

Re: The recent Chicago warehouse shootings, 6 dead

I was stunned last night when I actually heard Daley admit, on camera, that:

"Another gun law would not have made any difference in this shooting. This man was in the system 22 times and we were not able to stop him. The only way to stop somebody like this is rigid enforcement and prosecution of the laws we already have on the books".

I thought I was going to fall out of my chair. It was enoguh to mnake me open the Crown Royal for a little sip before bed time.

Of course he still wants to pass his most recent set of draconian laws, one a month, up the FOID card to $100 a year etc. if he can get away with it.

But it does give you some insight into the fact that he knows the new laws won't affect crime or criminals and he really doesn't expect the laws to do anything but disarm honest law abiding gun owners.

He had another great "Daley-ism" too:

"Guns are dangerous. they are very inherently dangerous, you know a loaded gun can do a lot of damage all by itself". Priceless thoughts from Chairman Richie.

Don

[El Tejon]

Don, did you hear the audio of that on WLS last night? I can't think of a politician as lost in space as Da Mayor.

And the young & nubile wants us to go up there next weekend.:eek: Shudder.

[SaintofKillers]

Dont understand how that shooting could have happened in the first place, didnt they bann all gun ownership in Chicago? Oh yeah except for the criminals and the cops. But I seem to get those confused also.

[WonderNine]

didnt they bann all gun ownership in Chicago?

What?? :confused:

[4v50 Gary]

I wonder if a "pop" was heard when he spoke.:confused:

[DMK]

"Another gun law would not have made any difference in this shooting. This man was in the system 22 times and we were not able to stop him. The only way to stop somebody like this is rigid enforcement and prosecution of the laws we already have on the books". A small spark of rational thought in an otherwise insane world. At least the first part was. As far as the second part, a better way "to stop somebody like this" is to allow good citizens to defend themselves on even terms.

Cowering defenseless in a corner must be a hell of a way to leave this world. :(

[Standing Wolf]

This man was in the system 22 times...

I'd say that's quite the criminal system. It's no kind of criminal justice system, but it's definitely a criminal system.

[Stickjockey]

"Another gun law would not have made any difference in this shooting."

[internal monologue]Yeah, but we'll pass 'em anyway...[/internal monologue]

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :fire:

[P95Carry]

It's a pity this ''flash of inspiration'' doesn't well and truly sink in and make him realize that in fact ...... no amount of banning guns for legit people in Chicago will control or reduce crime and shootings.

Far from it .. it will ensure that innocent people get in the line of fire way too often ........ with no recourse to their own defence.

We know ''guns are dangerous'' .... so are many things - but as my sig says ...... it ain't the guns themselves that kill .......

''Armed citizen'' is soooooo very logical ...... leastways ... seems so to me.

[six 4 sure]

Regardless of what Daley said I have a feeling this will be another justification to (add favorite colorful metaphor) the rest of the state with new gun laws. Daley has our fine governor in his front, back, and hip pocket. I’m pretty confident that Rod will sign anything that gets to his desk.

As a side note (please forgive me for thread hijacking) it’s nice to see the governor left Chicago for a few days to grace us lowly pheasants downstate with his presence. While in my hometown (DuQuoin) for the other State Fair, the rumors are starting to fly. Word on the street is the governor will try to balance the budget in the next year (can’t wait to see how he’s planning on pulling off that grand plan). Further rumors suggest this is to help his Vice Presidential ambitions. Of course his supposed running mate has yet to announce HER bid for the Presidency. God help us all if those two get elected.

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[Bob Wright]

Ownership of the Walther that was used in the crime has been traced to a couple of now dead Chicago Police Officers. Maybe Thee Bad? One or some other Illinois LEO can tell us how this happened.

Personally, as an Illinois resident, I believe that our police are more crooked than street gang members-but that's just me making an observation as a longtime Chicago resident who has seen enough in his life that he doesn't automatically trust the police.

[cbjessee@NH]

From the Chicago Sun-Times below. We can only wish the shooter had a big 45acp I guess.

"A gun made for plainclothes cops because of its big firepower and small size was the weapon Salvador Tapia brandished Wednesday. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives will trace the ownership of the Walther .380-caliber semiautomatic pistol. The gun's magazine holds eight bullets. Police said they found an extra magazine on the scene. "They are smaller and more easily concealable and have more round capacity than a revolver," ATF spokesman Tom Ahern said. Tapia has a record of weapons violations and did not appear to have a firearm owner's identification card, officials said. The card, which requires a state criminal background check, entitles a holder to buy a gun from a federally licensed dealer in Illinois. ATF hopes its "urgent" trace will show who owned the Walther before Tapia got it, Ahern said. Tapia got a one-year suspended sentence for illegally possessing a .45-caliber semiautomatic pistol in 1989. He was nabbed for the same offense in 1992, but the case was dropped. In 1997, he was accused of pulling a gun and threatening to kill family members. That case was thrown out, too."

[Kharn]

A gun made for plainclothes cops because of its big firepower and small size was the weapon Salvador Tapia brandished Wednesday. [...] Walther .380-caliber semiautomatic pistol.

LMAO, a Walther .380 with 'big firepower' and 'small size'? I wonder what they'd say about a KelTec P-3AT.

Kharn