Fedex/UPS: Don't Ask, Don't Tell?
Skunkabilly
January 13, 2003, 07:32 PM
When shipping firearms, are you required to announce that you're shipping one?
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AZTOY
January 13, 2003, 08:33 PM
UPS
YES :neener:
Customers must observe the following procedures to ship firearms, including handguns, via UPS:
UPS accepts firearm shipments from UPS daily pickup accounts and through UPS Customer Counters. UPS daily pickup accounts can also ship firearms, not including handguns, through UPS Internet Shipping, On Call Air Pickup®, and One-Time Pickup. Firearms are not accepted for shipment via UPS Letter Centers, UPS SonicAir® service, or international service. Firearms will not be accepted when presented for shipment at a UPS Authorized Shipping Outlet or a UPS Commercial Counter.
UPS accepts handgun shipments from UPS daily pickup accounts and through UPS Customer Counters. Handguns are not accepted for shipment via UPS Letter Centers, UPS SonicAir service, UPS Internet Shipping, UPS On Call Air Pickup, UPS One-Time Pickup, or international service. Handguns will not be accepted when presented for shipment at a UPS Authorized Shipping Outlet or a UPS Commercial Counter.
Firearm shippers shipping through a UPS Customer Counter must have a letter on record with UPS stating their status as an authorized firearm shipper.
The shipper must affix a UPS label, requesting an adult signature upon delivery, to each package containing a firearm.
Packages containing handguns must be shipped via UPS Next Day Air Early A.M.®, UPS Next Day Air®, or UPS Next Day Air Saver® service.
Packages containing handguns must be segregated from other packages being tendered to UPS. Handgun shippers must verbally notify the UPS driver or UPS Customer Counter clerk of any package containing a handgun.
UPS prohibits the inclusion of ammunition in packages containing firearms, including handguns.
In locations where a UPS Next Day Air service is not offered, packages containing handguns must be shipped via the most premium domestic air service available.
http://www.ups.com/using/services/details/firearms.html
Sven
January 13, 2003, 09:02 PM
Reminder: ship FedEx whenever possible. It may cost you $20 more, but you can sleep at night knowing your package will actually arrive.
Standing Wolf
January 13, 2003, 09:45 PM
The last time I shipped a gun to Magnaport, I started at U.P.S. After waiting in line half an hour, the woman demanded to know what was in my package. I left, went to Federal Express, and waited in line about three minutes.
It's nobody's @#$%^&! business what I'm shipping!
My posts are going through extremely slowly or not at all this evening.
Skunkabilly
January 13, 2003, 09:46 PM
What about Fedex, do you have to announce?
CWL
January 13, 2003, 10:39 PM
From FedEx site:
"Firearms must be shipped FedEx Priority Overnight service. Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx is required to notify the FedEx employee who accepts the package that the package contains a firearm. Firearm Firearms must be shipped FedEx Priority Overnight service. Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx is required to notify the FedEx employee who accepts the package that the package contains a firearm."
That having been said, I've been known to ship guns via FedEx 2-day for around $19.00. Must've forgot to declare.;)
dw58
January 13, 2003, 11:33 PM
According to BATF you must notify the carrier that the package contains a firearm:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier? [Back]
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
Notice that this is 'Federal Law'
EOD Guy
January 14, 2003, 03:48 PM
According to BATF you must notify the carrier that the package contains a firearm:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier? [Back]
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
This is not completely correct.
You are not legally required to notify a carrier if a package contains a firearm as long as you are shipping to an FFL holder, Notification is only required when shipping to a nonlicensee. (Yes, there are several instances when a firearm may be shipped to a nonlicensee.)
BlackArrow
January 14, 2003, 10:38 PM
For PISTOLS (not handguns) Fedex is the coolest. My driver spent 20 minutes talking about pistols with me!:D "OOP's nearly started a panic at the counter when I shipped a pistol.:banghead:
0007
January 17, 2003, 06:37 AM
I don't ship "guns". I ship "machined parts"...:D
JBP
January 17, 2003, 03:25 PM
Last week I shipped my .454 SRH back to Ruger for repair. For the package contents I wrote HANDGUN. When the clerk weighed it the price came to $8.10. She then corrected herself when she realized she had to send it next day air & commented if she had not caught it she probably would have been fired (I would have said something if she did not catch it because I'm a nice guy :D) . She also said it was a federal reg that it had to go that way so I politely corrected her saying it is UPS policy.
CleverNickname
January 17, 2003, 06:00 PM
FWIW, on a related subject...
I went to ship a package at the local UPS station this afternoon and got a big ol' 30.06 sign staring at me next to the door. Guess I'll be using FedEx from now on. I've already been to the FedEx station previously, and they don't have one. Anyone know if it's UPS policy or not to post a 30.06 or other no-carry sign?
Dan Shapiro
January 17, 2003, 07:46 PM
I don't know if it's a good idea or not. I literally had a lady behind the counter at a Mailboxes Etc (Long Beach, CA) freak-out when I told her there was a gun in the box. She immediately told me I could not sent it. After a "polite" conversation with the manager things were cleared up.:rolleyes:
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