Why Flintlocks?


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gizamo
July 26, 2008, 08:01 PM
No one ever asked me why I love them so.......
until a friend asked this day...





And so,

With the Flintlocks....

They are like sleek sailboats. You have to learn them and each responds differently to their master. Each has a unique personality all it's own. They make you think and they make you not just see ~ but truly feel the shot. They slow you down and you feel the difference in tempo and pace. It is almost as if they transport you to another era...


A well made one, is truly a joy to hold, and if you give it a chance...the gun will respond to you, and you will come to an understanding.

There is truly nothing else like them

Giz

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sundance44s
July 26, 2008, 08:29 PM
And is it fails you in a pinch ...they make great clubs !
Just Kidding ya ... I really like`em too ..why Flinters ? Thats like asking Why Black Powder ? and Why lead balls ?

Artigas
July 26, 2008, 09:07 PM
'Cause Natty Bumppo wasn't shooting an AR-15, that's why.

frontiergander
July 26, 2008, 09:25 PM
'Cuz its a great feeling on a late cool evening with the wind blowing in your face and when you touch the trigger, the cedar tree that you are keeling under lights up in a orange glow as the pan powder ignites and the smoke rolls out of both ends.
This was one of my most favorite and memorable hunts ever.
The second i put my finger on that trigger, time just seemed to slow down and could see everything going off one by one. Once that smoke cleared and i saw this one on his back with his legs in the air. I knew there could be no better satisfaction than using a Flinter.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x90/DeerCreek54cal/Hunting/100_2236.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x90/DeerCreek54cal/Hunting/100_2233.jpg

PRM
July 26, 2008, 09:56 PM
Good posts - (Note for frontiergander) I like your personal touch with the tacks. Curious about your gun, it looks like a 2 piece stock. Who made that?

oneshooter
July 26, 2008, 10:19 PM
I have been shootin rocklocks for over 30yrs. The thrill NEVER goes away!

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

Reddbecca
July 26, 2008, 11:10 PM
Why a flintlock?

Because taking a deer down with a flintlock really p***es off the hunter that spent a fortune on the latest new inline muzzleloader, and still missed.

DrLaw
July 26, 2008, 11:49 PM
The la long carabine (Spelling probably incorrect, apologies to Natty Bumpo) in the photo looks like a CVA model that was out some years back. It had a brass spacer between the buttstock section and the front forearm.

I like them because they are in the minority at black powder shoots. More work, but more fun.

The Doc is out now. :cool:

RoaringBull
July 26, 2008, 11:57 PM
Because there is nothing better than letting someone else shoot it and tell them to brace for it and watching them almost fall forward when it hang fires......

My first ml was a flinter and I wouldn't trade it for nothing.....cept another flinter

frontiergander
July 26, 2008, 11:58 PM
Its a Traditions .50cal Kentucky. The load i shoot is 110g 3F goex with a .015 ".018 the next time out" with a homecast .490 ball. Rifle's accuracy is simply amazing. I plan on replacing the stock some years down the road with plain jane maple.

gizamo
July 27, 2008, 12:03 AM
The one that is talking to me, these days....

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/Gizamo1/Flintlock001-1.jpg

Giz

4v50 Gary
July 27, 2008, 12:08 AM
Nice looking gun & beavertail bag, gizamo. I hope you don't take offense but the spout on that Tansel family style horn is a mite too thick and needs to be worked down. BTW, the May 2008 issue of Muzzle Blasts magazine has my article on Conner Praire's Arms Making Workshop. It has a photo of my Tansel family style horn on the workbench.

Pulp
July 27, 2008, 12:09 AM
I'm desparately wanting one. I getting a $420 retirement gift card (Cabelas)from work in the near future, I can't decide 'twixt a pair of '51 Navies, or throwin' in some extra money and getting a flintlock.

Sunray
July 27, 2008, 12:22 AM
Well, up here, it's because our idiot government doesn't get scared by a flintlock(except flintlock handguns unless it's a vintage piece). No permits. No registration. No expensive courses taught by unqualified people that I don't need(no previous experience, military time included, counts). Not that I'm bitter.
"...a $420 retirement gift card..." That'll cover nearly all of a .50 calibre, flint Kentucky rifle with a starter kit. Add 9 bucks for just the rifle.

Smokin_Gun
July 27, 2008, 04:19 AM
Gizamo, your Rifle and Kit look great...I never knew of two men to make an exact anything by hand...It's a dang Powder Horn...and it looks great.

That sounded very Muzzleloader Forum F&I to me...Shoooot!

SG

gizamo
July 27, 2008, 07:25 AM
4v50 Gary,

Hmmm, think I for one ~ would greatly appreciate seeing yours...
Sounds like a great horn with a good story...;)

Here's Mine:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/Gizamo1/Horns001.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/Gizamo1/Horns.jpg

Giz

Iggy
July 27, 2008, 11:11 AM
Giz,

That flinter and the horns are some fat cow doin's and that's plumb center!;)
If you don't already own that set up, you should.

RoaringBull
July 27, 2008, 12:14 PM
My Kentucky Flinter is Pedersoli....I love it.

Mike OTDP
July 27, 2008, 03:28 PM
You want to know why I shoot a flintlock?

Because matchlocks burn holes in your clothes!

tx gun runner
July 28, 2008, 06:18 PM
I love the smoke

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z195/dukeboy51/flint.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z195/dukeboy51/flintlock.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z195/dukeboy51/charlieville.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z195/dukeboy51/1777.jpg

Seafarer12
July 28, 2008, 06:39 PM
Here is my flinter

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa47/seafarer1976/Resizeofflintlock004.jpg

JNewell
July 28, 2008, 09:04 PM
If the Creator had meant man to shoot caplocks, he would have distributed caps around the creation, rather than iron and flint. :cool:

Omnivore
July 28, 2008, 10:21 PM
"...he would have distributed caps around the creation, rather than iron and flint.

Maybe. On the other hand, maybe he would have distributed various other chemicals, and given us innovative minds...

Who ever did the scrimshaw on that Tansel-style horn has my vote for Supreme Ruller of The World. Or maybe blue ribbon at the county fair. Either way, it's beautiful! Is that your work, Gizamo?

oneshooter
July 29, 2008, 12:15 AM
Hey Seafarer12!! Your lock is on the wrong side!!

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

gizamo
July 29, 2008, 07:37 AM
Omnivore,

Wish I was that creative....
No, it came that way ~ a good friend bought it may years ago...and just decided to cut back on his own collection..

I was just first in line;)

Giz

Shung
July 29, 2008, 08:25 AM
you guys are killing me with beautiful picture..

Now I need one.. that way, I wont be cap dependent anymore

sundance44s
July 29, 2008, 08:30 AM
Shung ..Cap dependent ..thats a good way of seeing it with cap locks ..Alot of our forefathers didn`t want to be cap dependent eaither ..Powder and steel could get wet and dry out in the sun .

Cap n Ball
July 29, 2008, 10:23 AM
If it hits the fan someday and it comes down to survival I'll be shooting long after cartridges and caps are scarce. I also just like to do some things the way my ancestors did. If it didn't work they didn't do it. Perhaps that explains why some limbs on the family tree are cut off...

buzzard80
July 29, 2008, 12:47 PM
It seems like the majority of the hunters in my area are only trying to expand their season with inlines. I got a flintlock to learn a new set of skills, and there is a fascination for me to doing things well with less technology.

gizamo
July 29, 2008, 06:02 PM
I was at a local gunclub last weekend with a good friend. On the long range were various race guns, a smattering of Bushmasters, and a couple of LEO shooting a 700 set up as a sniper gun....

Everyone stopped when I untethered my .36 Cal Flintlock. After a bit most were gathered around. My time became spent giving a history lesson and letting those who wanted ~ to shoot the gun...I only made a few shots that day, but made a whole lot of fellow shooters smile....

Those who didn't shoot seemed to enjoy watching the slower paced gun and the use of the accoutrements with a bit of facination...

Giz

Iggy
July 29, 2008, 06:57 PM
Giz,

I know what you mean about bringing things to a halt at the range.

A flintlock will do it every time.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/40flint.jpg?t=1217368350

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/tradegun.jpg?t=1217368512

http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/th_Flintpistol.jpg

Introducing shooters to front stuffers is always rewarding.

RoaringBull
July 29, 2008, 07:27 PM
Here is my Pedersoli and the boy's Hawken.....his lock is on the wrong side too...

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm282/RoaringBull_photos/Guns%20and%20Such/100_0578_editedv2.jpg

WNC Seabee
July 29, 2008, 10:44 PM
Another "wrong handed" one. My first gun, got it when I was 13. I truly believe that learning to shoot, and hunt, with a flinter made me a MUCH better marksman. If you're going to shoot black powder effectively, you cure any flinching issues right away; staying on target during a hang fire is what I'm getting at. Not unheard of to pull the trigger---pause--booom!

Other than the 12 ga. I inherited from grandpa (Ithaca 37, circa 1941), it was the only gun I shot until I joined the service. I picked up the M16, and it was like a toy. Shot 1st in my battalion for 5 years running (granted...it was the NAVY...).

My son will definitely learn to handle black powder before I intro him to anything else.

Here's the picture, I took it out of the post cause it's huge: http://docs.google.com/File?id=dvwfhck_8csmfnxdf_b

WNC Seabee
July 29, 2008, 10:46 PM
WHOA! Sorry for the gigantic picture....

Loyalist Dave
July 30, 2008, 12:08 PM
Because taking a deer down with a flintlock really p***es off the hunter that spent a fortune on the latest new inline muzzleloader, and still missed

AND..., the bragging rights are better with a flinter than any other rifle or gun (imho), AND..., when you take that deer in the drizzling rain after the guys with the cartridge guns have told you that'll never work in the rain, the bragging rights increase tenfold!.

LD

gizamo
July 31, 2008, 08:14 PM
Iggy,

You should know better, man.....:)

You can't, and should not, post those pics and not at least say something about those two smokepoles...

And I am one inclined towards tacked guns...so you have to at least dish out that story....;)


Giz

PRM
July 31, 2008, 08:59 PM
Got some good ones iggy. They shore shine... Who made your pistol and what calibre is it?

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