Suppressors @ the Range = very cool

[nerfsrule2]

Went shooting today and the guy beside me had a suppressor on his Bushmaster .223.. He was shooting hand loads (Subsonic) and it was about as loud as a pellet gun...The suppressor was a clamp on type for .22 diameter.. It cost him about $700.. He then went over to the pistol range and pulled out a .22 semi auto pistol with a small can on the front..Very cool and very silent. He said he lives on a large farm and uses them to help down groundhogs.. According to him you need a class 3 stamp..Anyone have any suppressor info they would like to share?? Thanks:D

[Lazarus09]

I made one once for a ruger mini-14, though it only worked for about fifty shots. worked pretty good for a 10/22 though. ;)

they are really simple actually, but i don't know what kind of laws there are so i won't say anymore :p

[nerfsrule2]

Thanks but I am looking for legal use advice.. Good manufacturers, cleaning advice, Where to purchase...ect

[Riss]

Legal for anything but hunting in PA. Tax stamp is a "transfer" tax. Way too much info to list here. Do a search for info on ATF website. Basically you shop around, find what you want. Talk to a local dealer who has , or can get what you want. Do the ATF paperwork and fingerprints, send them and your $200 to ATF. ATF approves the transfer to you. You pay dealer, he gets the cool toy, transfers it to you, you have fun.

[Riss]

Go to Bowers website. www.Subguns.com for list of some known reputable dealers in PA. www.subguns.com/c2c3/c2c3.htm#P

[another okie]

Several companies take the Ruger Mark III and put on an integral suppressor that looks like a heavy barrel. It's really cool because it doesn't look like something "evil." And they are so quiet that the loudest sound is the action cycling.

[W.E.G.]

A lot of companies recommend AGAINST using subsonic loads in cans designed for .223/5.56 rifles.

Baffle strikes are bad.

Ask me how I know.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

WEG. How do you know? :)

[W.E.G.]

$200 to replace the baffle stack.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/AR-15/HALOcrack2.jpg

[GearHead_1]

A lot of companies recommend AGAINST using subsonic loads in cans designed for .223/5.56 rifles.

Baffle strikes are bad.

Ask me how I know.I was going to make this comment but had nothing to back it up. I'm glad you did.

[Grayrock]

See this thread :

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=303609

[Riss]

Yep. That and having the can unscrew a little makes for a bad day. Nothing like having a 230 Gr 45 acp rattle down the baffles like its playing bumper cars.

[nerfsrule2]

Thanks to all that replied !!! Which would you choose, Clamp on type ( like the one that I saw) or a dedicated screw on ???

[nerfsrule2]

I have a S&W model 41 (.22 cal).. Could I get a suppressor for it??

[Riss]

Need extra barrel length to thread to put a can on it. Not sure if that is possible on the 41. As for screw on or clamp on. I would suggest any can that secures with a type of lock. There are many types, including fast screw on, and clamp on that are secured by some type of lock that will keep it from unscrewing.

[waterhouse]

W.E.G., which can was that?


I have a S&W model 41

If you are a member at Ar15.com, do a search over there in the suppressor forum. There is a guy who had an extended barrel for a 41 that he had threaded. The thread was a few months ago, and you have to be a member to search back more than 30 days. If you can find the thread he should be able to point you in the right direction.


I made one once for a ruger mini-14, though it only worked for about fifty shots. worked pretty good for a 10/22 though.

they are really simple actually, but i don't know what kind of laws there are so i won't say anymore
If you didn't register it and pay a $200 tax, you just admitted to committing a felony.

. . . .or a dedicated screw on

Just so you know, most screw on cans, be they fine threaded or quick detach, can be moved to different guns, so long as the guns are correctly threaded or have the correct quick detach device. While the integrally suppressed guns look more tame, the end mount suppressors are more versatile. This is the same can on 4 .22s:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/waterhouse/IMGP3066.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/waterhouse/IMGP2775.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/waterhouse/IMGP2765.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/waterhouse/IMGP2773.jpg

[dennisH87]

That is a freekin bad ass ar u got there. I finally get to shoot one tomorrow.

[Tarvis]

I ordered my Blackside in 45acp from Gemtech a month or more ago; still no word on how soon it will be ready for transfer. I've heard Gemtech is the best manufacturer from a gunsmith that knows the owner, which means they are very good at the least.

If I were you, I'd plan on getting either a threaded suppressor and having the muzzle of the firearms you want to put it on threaded as well, or plan on using the same quick detach mount on everything you plan on using it on. The latter would work fine if, for example, you had a .223 can for your AR-15's, but didn't plan on sticking it on a bolt gun, as a sleek and slender wood stocked bolty would look retarded with a tactical flash hider on it.

The best thing to do is try and think of everything you could possibly want to put this can on and pick a mounting method that is reliable and will work for them all.

[Grayrock]

Waterhouse- what is the 1st rifle in your pics?

[crushbup]

Aside from baffle strikes, there is little point in using subsonic .223 loads; at that point you may as well be using .22lr.

[owen]

you haven't lived until you shoot an entire supressor 50ft downrange!

[Riss]

Yep, had a three lug 9mm can do that 2 years ago. Luckily I managed to stop quickly as I was shooting quick at steel plates. Would have been one expensive steel target had I put a bullet in the outside of the can.

[Conqueror]

I ordered my Blackside in 45acp from Gemtech a month or more ago; still no word on how soon it will be ready for transfer. I've heard Gemtech is the best manufacturer from a gunsmith that knows the owner, which means they are very good at the least.


Sorry to tell you this, but the Blackside is among the worst .45 cans. Gemtech makes some good cans for other calibers, but the .45 Blackside has no Nielsen Device, which means it has trouble cycling on a LOT of guns. Some people get lucky and never have problems, but I have heard dozens of horror stories from people who can't get their gun to shoot three rounds without stovepiping or something. Cross your fingers.

[SprayAndPray]

W.E.G

About the pic, How can that happen? I mean can a bullet actually hit something inside a can?? I just dont get it.

[owen]

Spray,

yes, sometimes bullets hit the baffles or front plate on a can. Usually its not a big deal, and just leaves a smear of copper on the supressor. Sometimes it's pretty catastrophic.

[waterhouse]

Waterhouse- what is the 1st rifle in your pics?

Sorry for the delayed response, been out of town. It's an SBR with a Spike's Tactical dedicated .22 upper, 10" barrel and a YHM specter length rail.

[Conqueror]

Aside from baffle strikes, there is little point in using subsonic .223 loads; at that point you may as well be using .22lr.

Disagree. Subsonic .223 can have twice the bullet weight at the same velocity. Can't shoot 90gr projos from a .22LR.

[Shung]

Disagree. Subsonic .223 can have twice the bullet weight at the same velocity. Can't shoot 90gr projos from a .22LR.

maybe.. but what about bullet drop... catastrophic ballistic..

I've tried myself.. got back from it..

[Conqueror]

Why would you be shooting long range with it? Subsonic bullets are almost never any good past a couple hundred in any caliber, much less .224".

[Afy]

For long range shooting the advantage is recoil reduction.

On my .260 the can brings down recoil to .22 lr levels.
On .300 it reduces recoil to .260 levels. Very effective on .338 LPM as well from what I hear.

Yes the bullet remains supersonic, and is still loud. But the effect on accuracy (+) and recoil(-) more than pays for its self.

[aubie515]

Where in Central PA are you located? There are some good C3 dealers in PA that I have used. I just found another one in Lebanon Co and his prices seem to be pretty good.

As far as good suppressors, if you go with the bigger companies, they will stand behind their products.

You should check out SAS LLC. The guy is a small operation, but his cans are suppose to be the cat's ass. My next can will be from SAS based on SAS owners and talking to Tim a few times. I don't think you will get better CS with any other company.

[Hoser]

My quiet guns.

http://coloradoshooting.org/v-web/gallery/albums/Hoser/SBR_9x19.sized.jpg

http://coloradoshooting.org/v-web/gallery/albums/Hoser/T2K_with_shark_can.sized.jpg

Zak Smith, a moderator here, builds some really nice Ti cans. http://thunderbeastarms.com/

[taliv]

you suppressed a T2K ??? holy crap

what caliber is it? 6xc?


btw, what length barrel on the AR? and what brand cans are those?

[Conqueror]

Family portrait:

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd224/paintballplayer700/Guns/IMGP1188.jpg

[HisDivineShadow]

Edit: beaten on response, didn't see there where two pages.

[Hoser]

you suppressed a T2K ??? holy crap

what caliber is it? 6xc?

btw, what length barrel on the AR? and what brand cans are those?

Right now my Tubb is in 243. I have a couple 6XC barrels for it along with a 6.5 Creedmore and a 308 barrel.

I was busting pumpkin sized rocks with it at 1,100 - 1,200 yards last weekend in Raton NM.

The can on the Tubb is a Shark Ti.

The little AR (SBR'ed) has a 5.5 inch barrel and an AAC Evo9 on it. Fun little gun.