[mike6161]

I just got a box of hornaday XTP 38 cal 180 gr .357 hp/XTP and cannot find a load for it in my manuals. how can i find a load for them with out buying a hornaday manual.

thanks

[rcmodel]

Are you loading .38 Special, .357 Mag, or something else entirely?

I believe the Hodgdon website has loads for the XTP in most calibers.

rcmodel

[mike6161]

I am loading 357 mag. thinks for the hodgdon website they have up to 170 gr xtp but not the 180 gr xtp.

[rcmodel]

Top load in Hornady #6 is 12.6 MAX of 2400 @ 1,150 FPS.

11.8 grains MAX Viht N-110 and 13.7 grains MAX WW-296 are next best at 1,100 FPS.

Seating = 1.590" OAL.

rcmodel

[mike6161]

thanks for the help rcmodel. I have been looking for that for hours.

[Seafarer12]

My personal load is 12.3 grains of 2400 with WSP primer. I don't have a chrono so I don't have the velocity but I like the load. It is stout but not overly so.

[jibjab]

Hi mike, what powder do you plan to use ? Revolver ? barrel length ?

[mike6161]

I was going to use w231 but i can get some thing else. I will be using them in a revolver. a smith and wesson 66 with a 4 inch barrel.
can I use 231 and CCI 500 primers?

thanks

[rcmodel]

No!
Don't even think about using WW231 with 180 grain jacketed bullets!

WW231 is much too fast for heavy bullet .357 loads.

It is a light - medium load target powder.

CCI 500 primers are fine for 2400 powder.

rcmodel

[jibjab]

I have good results with AA#9 WSP behind 180gr HP/XTP's in my 2.75" Ruger Security Six;
82086
Use start load and work up, http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Handgun/Standarddata/35738Cal(9.2mm)/357%20Magnum%20pages%20100%20to%20102.pdf
For my 4" Colt Trooper 12.2gr of #9 worked Well, with the Ruger it's 12.8gr.
2400 is a excellent powder I just prefer #9 for now.

[mike6161]

thanks for all the help this is the first time I have ever loaded any thing bigger then 158 gr LRN and the first i have loeded JHP.
so I guess i am going to get some more powder:D. what powder should i get thet will work the best for 180 gr bullets and how much should I get.

[rcmodel]

what powder should i get thet will work the best for 180 gr bullets
Again, as in post #4 & #9, 2400 powder!


and how much should I get.
A pound of 2400 will load 560 rounds with 12.5 grains per load. So if you have one box of 100 bullets, a pound should be enough, unless you spill a lot!

How many more times am I going to have to type 2400 powder? :D

rcmodel

[XD-40 Shooter]

13.5 grains of 296 + magnum primer = big boom and fun.:D

[YodaVader]

The best accuracy I ever achieved with the 180XTP was recently when using VV N110 for the first time , but this was with a TC 10". Have not tried in a revolver yet.

In revolvers H110 , 296 and 2400 have all been excellent performers for me in the 357.

[mike6161]

thanks for all the help. just got a pound of 2400 i am going to start reloading some 357. would 12.2 grains be a good load? if 12.6 is MAX whats a light load so i can work up to 12.6 .

thanks

[Seafarer12]

It will depend on your gun. If 12.6 is max back off a grain or so and work your way up. I can't remember where I started but the info I had said 12.4 was max so I stopped at 12.3.

[Ben Shepherd]

296 will outrun 2400 just a tad with that 180, and you may find that vit N110 is just as fast and a lot cleaner(and A LOT more expensive). BUT:

If you are going to load 357 mag a lot, there is no more versitile powder than 2400 in that caliber. Regardless of jacketed or cast, light or heavy. It preforms acceptably to excellent all the way across the board.

See rcmodel? I typed 2400 again for you.;)

[ChristopherG]

Another candidate: Lil' Gun. Check the manufacturer's website, but I believer the top end is 15 grains.