Remington Model 11 (pre WWII)


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Radical120
July 30, 2008, 10:13 PM
New to the board - glad to be hear. I have recently inherited a pre WWII Remington Model 11 from my father. The stock on it is completely trashed. I was looking to replace both the stock and front forearm with a synthetic one. I have looked at companies like Ram-Line and they have the Browning A-5 stock buy indicate they do not fit the Remington. Has anybody replaced theirs with a synthetic stock? I was reading on the board and I believe Tom C said in one of the postings (see below) that it was possible. Any feedback or companies that might have a replacement would be greatly appreciated.

"Remington Model 11 came to me as an inheritance from my uncle. It turns out that it was made in 1942. When I got it, it had a light coating of rust covering all the metal, with a couple of mild bulges in the long, full choked barrel. I found a spare barrel and someone to restore it. It now has a 25 barrel, with removable choke tubes, an MMC rear sight, an AO front sight on a Williams base, and shoots slugs into nice groups at 50 yds. I also have an extended magazine for it for use in IPSC 3-gun matches. It is nicely finished in a mat blue finish, and the wood looks great. I have put an inexpensive Ramline front forearm on it to prevent splitting of the nice wood forearm."

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ants
July 30, 2008, 10:29 PM
It is extremely difficult to find parts of any sort for a WWII vintage M11. I would be just completely shocked as heck to find synthetic stocks made for it, but it's possible that someone spent way too much money having one custom fitted. It might actually be cheaper to have someone carve it out of a walnut blank. The fellow you quoted probably found a forearm for a Winchester or Remington of some type and made it fit somehow.
The bolt carrier on my Model 11 broke a lug. I sure wish I could find a replacement, but parts of any sort are darn scarce for that model. Best of luck. And welcome to the forum, friend.

Radical120
July 30, 2008, 10:47 PM
Wondering if I bought the Ram-Line synthetic stock replacement for the Browning A-5 auto - how much customization it would take to make it fit the Remington?? I'm thinking it's got to be a close fit but I've never seen an actual comparison.

Joe D
July 31, 2008, 07:08 AM
I too have a Model 11 along with 3 11-48s. I ordered a couple of parts for it several years ago from seems like Numrich.

jodicot10
July 31, 2008, 08:09 AM
I just inherited a Model 11, 12ga, shotgun from my father. As a teenager I got to use this gun to shot doves and ducks. The serial number is in the 170,000 range. I don't plan on using it as I have migrated to the newer model shotguns.

Dave McCracken
July 31, 2008, 11:14 AM
Re Model 11s.....

First off, great guns, just like their A5 cousins. Some A-5 parts interchange,. incluing friction rings, pieces and springs. A new set of these will constitute a functional rebuild to like new.

Numrich sometimes has stocks and forearms, but it's spotty.

Try Jack First also.

If you don't mind spending some money, Wenig will make you a stock. Anything above utility grade lumber will be pricey.

At present, I know of no source for synthetic furniture for the 11.

I had a family one that I pased on to a cousin. He cherishes it.

Good luck with yours.....

Radical120
July 31, 2008, 11:26 AM
Thanks Dave - I'll check it out of the stocks and if need be I'll have one fabricated. I know the gun really isn't worth much (it's a military issue) but it's a cool gun with some history - definately worth bringing back to life. The thing is heavy as lead though.

35Rem
July 31, 2008, 03:02 PM
http://www.gun-parts.com/remingtonstocks/

Towards the bottom, on the left, there is info on which stock you need, regarding screw hole and tang length. This may explain a little whether the Browning stock (synthetic) would fit.

bragood
July 31, 2008, 03:22 PM
Just wanted to add some encouragement. I just bought a shotgun as a birthday present for my grandfather who is 73. A while back he told me all his life he wanted a model 11. I bought him one for $150 with no bluing left and a scratched up stock. I sent the gun to a great smith who reblued and I did the stock work and sanded until only a few of the DEEP scratches were left. It looks amazing. I wish I could keep it...

Radical120
July 31, 2008, 05:41 PM
I really appreciate everyones feedback on this model (amazing actually) - the guy in actually in pretty good shape outside of the stock of course. I really only think it needs to be broken down and cleaned. I do own a couple of expensive shotguns or what I would call expensive (Benelli) - but owning this one from my father puts all the rest to shame.

Jeff Mull
July 31, 2008, 09:41 PM
Used parts and replacement wood for M11's are common and cheap. Lots of these guns get parted out. Look for used parts on Gunbroker.com

Putting plastic stocks on an early M11 or A5 is like putting makeup on the Venus de Milo.

Don't mess up a classic gun, especially a family gun.

Jeff

ps: for those of you who are scratching your lice ridden scalps wondering what the Venus de Milo is:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7Y_ho29QJ8EJ::www.artchive.com/artchive/g/greek/venus_de_milo_louvre.jpg

mnrivrat
August 1, 2008, 04:45 AM
I know the gun really isn't worth much (it's a military issue) but it's a cool gun with some history

You might want to do a little more research on this one as all Military stuff of that period is sorta hot now. If it has the flaming bomb and is all matching I would look for used wood on the web sites like gunbroker, etc. that would put this back to as close to original as possible. You may be surprised what a military issue shotgun can bring.

Jeff Mull
August 1, 2008, 07:47 AM
Ahhhhhh, Dave!

It's interesting that the image does not need to be censored but a word does.

Maybe that's the difference between history and philosophy. History is truth and philosophy is opinion.

Let's split the difference and say "a bad tatoo"

Jeff

Dave McCracken
August 1, 2008, 09:39 AM
Jeff, check your PMs...

Txhillbilly
August 2, 2008, 01:44 AM
I have installed Ramline's on my Model 11,you just have to modify the angle of the screw hole in the stock,and grind a small amount of material off the front end of the stock where it goes into the back of the reciever. They make it look like a totally different gun,plus it saves your original wood.
Mine was made in 1914 and still has the original stocks that are in excellent cond.

meh92
August 15, 2008, 10:30 PM
Txhillbilly,

Is there any chance you could post a few pics of the Ramline installed as well as pics of the mods you did? I'd love to see it.

I'm a huge fan of walnut and steel, but I keep kicking around the idea of building a "fun-gun" M11 just for the heck of it. The cost of furniture, and the fragile nature of old wood, combined with the gun's propensity to split forends has kept the project at a distance. While probably ugly as sin dipped in misery, I like the idea of affordable, modern furniture.

Thanks

Txhillbilly
August 18, 2008, 03:15 PM
Here are some pics. Like I said they go on pretty easy,you will have to change the angle of the tang screw hole in the Ramline and do some grinding in acouple spots but they work perfect.
I posted some more on another thread here-Rem. model 11 for $150- so look there also.

PTK
August 18, 2008, 09:16 PM
Well that settles that, I'm ordering a Ramline set for my Remington 11...

EDIT: And I just did. Hopefully it gets here before the weekend when I hope to get to the range. :)

mollybygolly
August 27, 2008, 04:31 PM
Help.

I have a 1928 Remington Military Model 11 and can't seem to get a straight answer out of gun dealers here and back east.

I want to trade it or sell it and buy a lighter shotgun like a Beretta 391.
Mine is in perfect shape and according to guys at one gun shop who all about had kittens looking at it and cleaning it and then shooting it; it is a 1928 which is older than I thought it was. It has U.S. something on it.

My gun does not need anything. It is perfect. No scratches of any sort on any part. I am open to offers on it but I won't be sending it anywhere as I need it for protection.

Please email me at mollyohanrahan@yahoo.com.
Thanks alot for this site and your expertise.
Any advice as to another gun is more than welcome. I just want a lighter longer barrelled wood gun of top quality.

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