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bragood
July 31, 2008, 12:24 AM
Im thinking of getting a sig p6 when I buy my next gun (or 2 if they are good). Theyre cheap and I want to experience a sig. Wow that um sounds like a dirty joke after you read it. But anyway what can I expect accuracy wise in one of these guns? What has been the overall feeling towards these as they are german surplus?

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CCR
July 31, 2008, 10:32 AM
I have seen many Sig P6's over the past year and I have to say for $250.00 to $300.00 they are one of the best values I have seen in twenty year

I don't think you can go wrong for the money

BattleChimp Potemkin
July 31, 2008, 10:40 AM
Only problem is the mags (hard to find and relatively expensive). However, rumors on at the Sig forums say that a few more police agencies are turning theirs in so more mags and guns on the market. Rumors also mumble about Mec-gar interested in making a few bucks in the P6 market, but nothing concrete.

Other than that, they are a Sig, reliable to hell and back and more accurate than the shooter.

Ohio Rifleman
July 31, 2008, 01:26 PM
Well, I just bought one and love it. You can expect holster wear, maybe a lot of it. But the internals will be in excellent condition. I plan on using mine for range plinking and CCW when I get around to taking the class and whatnot.

Buy one now. Maybe two. In a year or two, the prices on the P6s will likely be much higher. Hopefully, magazine prices will be much lower.

Thernlund
July 31, 2008, 01:30 PM
DAMN IT! You guys and your P6 threads!! Knock it off! I can't afford one right now and it's killing me. I'm trying to forget about them, but then YOU ALL keep reminding me.

If this keeps up, I'll end up buying two. I totally don't have the money! So just stop!


:D


-T.

Quoheleth
July 31, 2008, 01:35 PM
Can they be carried cocked & locked, or is the safety decocker-only, making the trigger DA (or manually cocked SA) for first shot?

Q

Ohio Rifleman
July 31, 2008, 01:56 PM
The trigger is DA for the first shot, and SA for each shot after that in the magazine. There isn't a mechanical safety on the gun. You could carry it cocked and locked, but I wouldn't. The SA trigger pull is very light. I'd carry it hammer down.

DevilDog0402
July 31, 2008, 03:13 PM
If there's no safety, it would be cocked but not locked ;)

Ohio Rifleman
July 31, 2008, 03:15 PM
Oh, I see. I gotcha. As my moniker here might suggest, most of my shooting and overall experience with firearms has been with rifles, and I'm pretty new to handguns.

Bart Noir
July 31, 2008, 03:15 PM
Ohio, "cocked and locked" means that there is a manual safety engaged to lock the gun, so pulling the trigger will not fire it. As in the 1911 design.

The classic SIG design has no such safety. You cannot carry it "cocked and locked", you can only carry it uncocked or cocked and not locked. For obvious reasons, that last method is severely non-recommended. Which is what you said.

Bart Noir

slik_rik30
August 2, 2008, 01:17 PM
But anyway what can I expect accuracy wise in one of these guns?

The P6 is remarkably accurate in my opinion as well as several other P6 owners. Like Brad (CCR) said it's a real value.

rcmodel
August 2, 2008, 01:28 PM
Heck!
You could carry it cocked & not locked I suppose. (Condition 1/2) :confused:

If the hammer falls, the FP safety will stop it from firing unless the trigger is pulled & held back, just "almost" like you used the de-cocking lever.

They do have a very long first stage before you come up on the bang switch part of the pull.

Probably not much more dangerous then a Glock in that respect. :evil:

rcmodel

Ohio Rifleman
August 2, 2008, 02:11 PM
Right, I figured that "cocked and locked" referred to some kind of safety being engaged. And, for obvious reasons, carrying a Sig cocked is not a good thing to do.

Thernlund, save your pennies...they're MORE than worth the $300 or so they're going for. I hope for your sake they stay at that price till you can.

357wheelgunner
August 2, 2008, 02:32 PM
Im thinking of getting a sig p6 when I buy my next gun (or 2 if they are good). Theyre cheap and I want to experience a sig. Wow that um sounds like a dirty joke after you read it. But anyway what can I expect accuracy wise in one of these guns? What has been the overall feeling towards these as they are german surplus?

Expect it to be a very accurate weapon, with German made reliability, with brand new internals, and brand new to well worn finish. I ordered 3 of them, and two looked like this (unissued):

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/357wheelgunner/Picture2.jpg

I shot the oldest one, dated 1994, and after a few hundred rounds of FMJ and JHP it didn't malfunction once. I should note that I replaced the recoil spring and magazine springs before hand, because they are the number one cause of malfunctions.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/357wheelgunner/Picture2018.jpg

Magazines can be bought from Sig for $45 apiece and free shipping, if you order 3 or more. Or, you could buy used ones at online auctions for $150. You can get a spare parts kit here if you want:

http://www.topgunsupply.com/parts-sig-sauer_parts_parts-kits/

They carry nice IWB, if you're interested Blade-Tech makes a superb Kydex IWB holster:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/357wheelgunner/Picture2024-1.jpg

357wheelgunner
August 2, 2008, 02:36 PM
Only problem is the mags (hard to find and relatively expensive). However, rumors on at the Sig forums say that a few more police agencies are turning theirs in so more mags and guns on the market. Rumors also mumble about Mec-gar interested in making a few bucks in the P6 market, but nothing concrete.

I e-mailed Mec-Gar, no response since 3 weeks ago.

Sauer of Germany is apparently producing the magazines again, per a Sig representative. I got the first order of the 500 that they recieved a week or two ago, and they have more on order.

r_p_bayly
August 2, 2008, 08:09 PM
"The P6 is remarkably accurate in my opinion as well as several other P6 owners. Like Brad (CCR) said it's a real value.
____________"

not mine--- shot it last weeke nd for the first time
25 ft targets rested forearms on tabletop
P6 groups full clips ~ 4"
XD 9mm same condition full clip groups ~ 1"
??????

OcelotZ3
August 3, 2008, 05:06 PM
357wheelgunner, where did you buy yours?

357wheelgunner
August 3, 2008, 08:38 PM
I got mine from Maguns at Centerfire Systems. I asked him to please pick me out a few nice ones, and he really came through for me.

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/SIG-225.aspx

If he doesn't have any nice ones left, which he might not, try AIM Surplus. They were selling "like new in the box" P6s for $300 a week ago, they might still have some left.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/S...mm_Pistol.html

If it doesn't work out, there might be more shipments of these coming into the country in the next few weeks. If you look back, in January the first shipments hit our shores. They cost $380 and were beat to hell. Now the guns are $100 less and some are pristine, while others are new on the inside with light surface wear. Who knows what awaits on the next shipment!

Good luck!

Ohio Rifleman
August 3, 2008, 10:35 PM
Well, I can vouch for the quality of the AIM Surplus P6s. I bought one a little over a week ago, and it has some holster wear and finish wear, but the innards of the gun are pristine. I also got a very old and beat-up Sig P226 cardboard box, a cheap gun lock, 2 magazines and a German police holster.

Creature
August 5, 2008, 02:33 PM
Rumors also mumble about Mec-gar interested in making a few bucks in the P6 market, but nothing concrete.

I e-mailed Mec-Gar, no response since 3 weeks ago.

I wrote to Mec-Gar about this very subject a few months ago and they replied flatly that they have no plans to manufacture P6/225 magazines. Maybe if enough of us inquire, they may change their minds.

mothergoose
August 5, 2008, 04:20 PM
Sig is now out of mags by the way.

Caliban
August 5, 2008, 04:29 PM
aim has 'em for 17.95

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/ProMag_Sig_Sauer_P225_P6_8rd_Magazine.html

Soybomb
August 5, 2008, 06:36 PM
aim has 'em for 17.95
its worth noting that those are pro-mags, not mecgar/sig mags, they have a terrible reputation.

MechAg94
August 5, 2008, 06:45 PM
I'm sorry, but unless I see some testimonials of the Pro-mag magazines working flawlessly, I will not buy any Pro-mag stuff. I have tried their stuff in a few different guns and all were lesser quality and not much good except for practice. I have 4 Sig magazines and that will have to work if Pro-mag is the only other choice.

If you do buy a P6, try to find one of the guns that comes with 2 mags, not one. The Sig mags are pretty good.

Caliban
August 5, 2008, 07:26 PM
my bad. noob mistake.

357wheelgunner
August 5, 2008, 07:36 PM
Sig has more coming....

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