[Harley Man]

This friend of mind (I think he is) was telling me how you can make a very hot load by cutting off the white part of strike anywhere matches, and cure them into a liquid pouring them into a hollow point then covering them with wax. Says when they impact they will explode. Now this sounds all very James Bond like, but I don't plan on trying this until I hear from a good many of you on this subject!

[Cocked & Locked]

...uhh :scrutiny:

[Harley Man]

Can you expound on your commet C&L, Now I know this sounds crazy, and I assure you I have no intention of trying this, but I was just wondering if this is possible

[kingpin008]

I'd guess the comment from Cocked & Locked was meant to convey that what you've asked about isn't really the smartest thing. I can't imagine that it'd actually work, and besides that - what would the application for "exploding" hollowpoints be? They're already pretty devastating on flesh.

I dunno. Good luck with your question. :)

[Harley Man]

Thank you Kingpin008 for setting me straight on this issue. Once again this was only a myth buster questions. I've been shooting for quite some time and I have no plans to try this.

[magiccarpetrides]

They say the same idea can be achieved with baby oil in a hollow point then covered back over with melted lead shavings but thats probably another urban myth.

[calaverasslim]

I strongly suspect that you would have an explosive device and end up in a world of hurt. Sides, I would consider doing something like that, just plain dumb

[OAKVILLE SHOOTER]

Never heard of doing this. However, I know a guy that has drilled the hollow point cavity on a .22lr a little bigger and inserted Zippo flints into the hole. Pour gas on a steel target, shoot the target, watch the excitement.

[lions]

If I were you I would ask myself why he is telling me how to do it instead of telling me how it went last time he did it. And my second question might be why do I want "exploding" bullets anyway? It sounds like a big fat waste of time to me.

On a side note, "hot loads" is talking about having more powder in the casing than a standard load. It is not about making "strike anywhere bullets". Welcome to THR!

[gunNoob]

Definitely thought "hot loads" meant something else.....

[JesseL]

I really don't understand why anyone wants to mess around with making something like this.

1. Jacketed hollow point bullets are already very effective.
2. If you ever used something like this in a self-defense situation, you'd be crucified.
3. If you just want to play with exploding bullets, get some from these guys (http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php?cName=starburst-incendiary-ammo-starburst-pistol-ammo), and be careful where you shoot them.
4. You'll probably find yourself wanting the use all ten of your fingers sooner or later, messing with home made explosives can be detrimental to that end.

[Bufford t. Justice]

There's nothing explosive about either combination so I'd say ignore it for the foolishness it is.

[SaxonPig]

Mixing flammable materials into ammunition not only sounds stupid but the ATF might consider it as making bombs.

[Harley Man]

Please someone tell me that they also posted something and wished they hadn't. Everyone that responded your answers were right on, and I really had no intention of doing this. I had enought exploding projectiles in South East Asia during Viet Nam.

[JesseL]

No sweat Harley Man, it's the guys that don't ask that I worry about.

[rcmodel]

A plugged hollow-point usually won't expand worth sour apples.

The red phosphorus mix used in strike-anywhere matches is not a high explosive in itself.
And I doubt you could get enough of it in a typical HP cavity do any bullet expanding.

SO, I call BS on the match-head thing.



Please someone tell me that they also posted something and wished they hadn't.No problem! :D

Here, how bout this!
In my younger and more foolish days, I once had a 45-70 bullet mold that cast 500 grain bullets with an especially large & deep HP cavity. I found I could get a few grains of either crushed black powder or Bullseye pistol powder in it, and then seat a LG Rifle primer in the nose.

Neither combo expanded as much as a clean empty HP cavity in soft earth berms.

They all went off, and the BP ones even made a little puff of smoke when they hit something hard on the surface, but they didn't really do anything else, except not expand as much.

rcmodel

[Win52D]

rcmodel...Elgin Gates said that early handgun silhouette shooters tried exactly what you did...with similiar results :-)

Don't worry Harley Man...the only stupid question is the one not asked. This forum exists to exchange knowledge...and I'm sure all of us have asked questions that is hindsight didn't seem like a good idea. I for one enjoyed the question and the answers...but then...I'm easily amused :neener:

[zxcvbob]

I used to shoot strike-anywhere matches against a brick wall with my dad's Crosman pellet pistol. They would explode satisfyingly upon impact.

I'm pretty sure you could use the white tips as emergency primer compound, or the red and white parts together as emergency propellant (this one might be dangerous), but "cure them into a liquid pouring them into a hollow point then covering them with wax" doesn't make any sense.

[scrat]

i think another problem is that when a hollow point expands. The speed and heat would just melt away your wax and move out the red phosphorus. making it useless.

[rcmodel]

Besides, the flame from the burning match heads would cauterize the wound, and the BG would never know he had been shot!

Didn't you ever watch the old western movies where they pull the arrow out and dump the black powder cartridge in the hole & light it? :eek:

The Good Guy is back in the saddle again in the next frame, good as new!

Pardner = "This is probably gonna hurt a little!"
Good Guy = "Don't make no nevermind! Just give me that old crupper to bite on, and do it!" :what:

rcmodel

[Harley Man]

Thanks everyone..guess I don't feel so darn stupid about this...I'll try in the future to keep questions within the world of possibility..
Thanks again
safe shooting

[skinewmexico]

Sounds illegal.

[rcmodel]

It's not!

I think biting on a crupper should be though!

rcmodel

[scrat]

Harley man


Welcome to THR.

There is no such thing as a dumb question. We are all friends here

[pbearperry]

I think I would rather fill the HP cavity with trans fats.That way if the bad guy survived and got away,he may still have problems with high cholesterol and maybe heart disease.

[GaryL]

There is no such thing as a dumb question. We are all friends hereWell, actually, there is. But we'll let you know. In a friendly way. :)

[bunnielab]

I grew up in a semi-rural area and spent most of my youth as a terrorist in training. At least thats what I would be called today.

A friend and I saw an episode of "Dukes of Hazzard" in which one of them made an exploding arrow and blew up an outhouse.

Now, this friend's father was an avid blackpowder and bow hunter, but not an avid keeping-track-of-supples kind of guy, so we were able to "borrow" powder from him from time to time.

We too an arrow and packed most of it full of cotton balls, leaving about 6" empty at the tip. This cavity was filled with black powder. We managed to force a nipple into the shafts threads and then capped it.

We went deep into the woods and my friend took aim at a tree about 50 yards away and shot the arrow. There was an impressive explosion and we were quite surprised when the shaft came right back at us, missing by a matter of a few feet.

Some how we didn't learn our lesson and kept on messing around with stuff like this. The day after the OKC bombing I decided to get out of the bomb hobby as I decided that college was probably going to be more fun then prison. :p