[ch1966]

1. Is shooting feral cats wrong (where legal)?

2. Is shooting feral cats considered hunting?

3. Is posting graphic pictures of dead feral cats wrong?

4. Do you think people who post graphic pictures of dead feral cats on a shooting/hunting forum are doing a disservice to all hunters/shooters?

Thanks for your input. Sometimes I am very opinionated in my views and I had a bit of a disagreement on another forum that got me banned.
I am seeking input here to determine if its my view that's screwed up or if it was the other guys.
I was definitely in the minority with my thoughts on that other site.


My answers:

1.No. Shooting feral cats is an effective means for controlling populations here on the farm.

2. No. To me, shooting ferals is more like pest control than hunting, and requires little skill.

3. & 4. Yes and Yes. I believe posting pics of dead feral cats, legally taken, casts hunters and shooters in a bad light. I also believe that with the millions of cat lovers out there who vote, arguably, they have the power to affect laws that impact my right to manage pests on my land.

Please, no flaming (Ive had enough for one day;)) All thoughts are appreciated.

[Conqueror]

1) Not "wrong," but you should have a legit reason rather than "because they're there."

2) Yes. I don't think "hunting" has to be limited to food or sport.

3) No. There will always be someone to get pissed off at you for anything you do. If you had a successful afternoon controlling feral cats, I see no problem posting pics of it.

4) No. I've seen plenty of very graphic pics of dead deer, varmints, hogs, etc. They would all be shocking to someone who doesn't hunt. I don't think the fact that they are cats, as opposed to deer, makes it a greater disservice.

[JackBurtonJr]

no
no
no. Tacky maybe, but wrong per se, no.
no.

[JackBurtonJr]

Not "wrong," but you should have a legit reason rather than "because they're there."

A lot of evidence that feral cats are a major destroyer of the wild bird population, which in turn creates much more of an insect pest problem.

[Jorg]

How again does this qualify for general firearms discussion? :confused:

[ch1966]

I didnt see an ethics forum................

[TAB]

1 no

2 Some might call it that, I personally see it as pest control. Just as I don't
call shooting rats hunting.

3 its not something I would do, but its up to the mods as to rather or not is wrong to post on thier websites.

4 yes. Generally speaking showing overly graphic pics of any "hunting kill" may do a diservice to all hunters.

[bogie]

Okay... Is this going to end up cross-posted to a PETA board?

[Jorg]

Actually, bogie, it looks like it's from the Sniper's Hide board. Seems our friend ch1966 joined that forum to complain about pictures of dead cats, got banned, then came over here looking for kindred spirits.

[ch1966]

Yea I just don't understand people's needs to post such trash. graphic pictures of anything is distasteful enough but dead cats? I just don't understand................ I guess my values system is messed up.........

[rcmodel]

No
No
Yes
Yes!

But, by my definition, all pet house cats are also feral cats.

They all sneak out of the house, supposedly just to poop, and end up killing something just for the hell of it, because they are after all, cats.

And I sure don't need to see dead cats on the Internet just so someone can prove to me what a great "hunter" they are.

rcmodel

[dakotasin]

every single feral cat should be eradicated. personally, i pick 'em off whenever and however i can.

it is sometimes hunting, but usually opportunity shooting.

posting pics... eh, not necessary, but nothing really wrong w/ it anyway.

nope, don't think the pics are a disservice.

i hunt w/ a rifle, handgun, shotgun, and a bow. i kill stuff and make no apologies for it. there are very few critters that are attractive when dead - the pics are a reality check for what happens when a 225 grain bullet collides w/ skin, muscle, and bone at 3000 f/s - people might be reminded of that once in awhile when they get to being unsafe w/ their guns.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

1. Is shooting feral cats wrong (where legal)?

NO - ok by me.

2. Is shooting feral cats considered hunting?

Depends on your definition of hunting. As most people define it, yes. Most people call it "prairie dog hunting" too. As I define it, not hunting, but shooting - nothing wrong with it if they are a nuisance.

3. Is posting graphic pictures of dead feral cats wrong?

Nope

4. Do you think people who post graphic pictures of dead feral cats on a shooting/hunting forum are doing a disservice to all hunters/shooters?

Arguable / It depends. AFAIAC, no problem with it. But depends on the forum and the style/mood/membership of the forum.

[R.W.Dale]

Knowing full well how out emotionally charged any thread gets that mentions having to shoot a dog no matter how wild, out of control or violent the K9's are. Why would a person expect posting pics of dead kitties be any different.

It is a bit of a double standard though as posting pics of blastimated coyotes is generally considered OK same thing with hunting the big cats. Yet pics of dead feral dogs and cats is somehow forbidden.

[Savage Shooter]

1: no
2: no, pest control
3:not really but I wouldn't do it
4:yes it can hurt us.
quick example my aunt is a cat nut its hard enough getting trapping permission with a live trap. if I pull out a pic of a dead cat anywhere anytime around her i at the very least am going to get a disgusted look and an earfull:banghead:. In my experiece cat lovers are nutjobs :neener:and before i get jumped on I'm talking more than having a couple of cats. Im talking people who treat there cats like kids and spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year on them. Its JUST A CAT they don't love you at best they tolarate your presense. :D

[ch1966]

Thanks for the input guys.

In the past 30 yrs here we've had several population explosions. The current one was brought on by the local town (15 miles away) requiring a $250 annual "breeders permit" for all intact dogs and cats. The result is a lot of animals being dropped off here in the country.
Ive gone to great lengths to keep from killing anyone's pet. I have passed on several collarless dogs because I got them to move on without any problem. I even offered flea collars to my neighbors in case they have a pet cat. All four declined, with two neighbors telling me that theyre shooting them also.
I have 13 acres here on the corner. We have deer, turkey, quail(none this yr), rabbits, squirrels, armadillos, coons, possums, coyotes, bobcats, a ton of songbirds and skunks. We have never hunted or allowed hunting on this corner but pest control means feral cats, skunks, and coyotes get it. Bobcat sightings are rare but I will take them also in season. I have talked with the game warden about all legalities, just to keep everything above board.

Anyhow thanks again for your inputs.............

[ChrisVV]

1. Is shooting feral cats wrong (where legal)?
No


2. Is shooting feral cats considered hunting?
No

3. Is posting graphic pictures of dead feral cats wrong? Yes because my cat is sitting on my lap right now and as I have and will shoot cats I do not take "pride" enough to post pictures of it. I hunt Coyote but have a hard time watching videos of coyote hunting because they resemble a dog to much. Weird I know.


4. Do you think people who post graphic pictures of dead feral cats on a shooting/hunting forum are doing a disservice to all hunters/shooters?
Yes, most of us can easily justify harvesting or exterminating other animals, most people do not wake up with a pet squirrel curled up at their feet.

It is just to easy for people to make a connection to the cat

[MCgunner]

Being as I like cats, I don't shoot 'em. They're not the big problem that feral dogs are. Around the house, I welcome them, keeps the rat population down having cats around. Now, if I was worried about a quail population or something, I might shoot 'em if I had a big problem with 'em, but that's not the case. Friggin' fire ants took care of what quail I had. :rolleyes:

[Titan6]

1. No feral cats are bad for a lot of reasons.

2. Not to me.

3. Only if you consider rude and stupid "wrong".

4. Only if you think being rude and stupid is a disservice to all hunters/shooters.

[dagger dog]

You are doing the wildlife in your area a service, feral housecats are one of the most destructive predators and are a problem that needes to be dealt with in any manner possible.

Some of the cats I've encountered were dumb as rocks easily decieved with lip smooching calls that replicate a dying rodent, or falling to the trick of pitching a rock or stick to the other side of a tree, that the cat is using for cover to get him to move into your sights . Most fall into the dumb category (pun). Others I've hunted have honestly taken me years to finally send to their maker.
It could be called hunting but I prefer extermination, because they are true vermin.

As far as posting pictures , it would just be ammo for the bleeding hearts to shoot back at the hunter.

The bird watchers in the areas where predation of songbird species, has been a problem actually have the hunter to thank.

If most would remove their heads from between their buttocks, they would see the hunter has done them a service.But they gaze through a brown veil, and only see what they want.

[Conqueror]

Wow, I just saw the thread on SnipersHide. You acted like a jerk and you ABSOLUTELY deserved the ban.

You threatened a surgeon with legal action and planned to contact his local authorities and the state medical board just because he posted a single photo of a cat he shot?

[ch1966]

I made 1 post and he came back with a proposition to buy my daughter. And he's a doctor for petes sake. He was also the OP. AAANNNNDDDDD, Obviously, by his own admission he was poaching game at night with nightvision and a .308.
He's lucky he got a heads up so he didnt get caught tonight.
Thanks guys Ive heard all I need to hear.
Good luck this fall.

[ch1966]

I'm not gonna debate anything here. I'll keep my ethics to myself.
But I always stand by what I say.
Lock/delete please mod

[JShirley]

Done.

NOTE: calling someone an anatomical reference is in no way High Road, and will get you banned quick, fast, and in a hurry.

John