New gun safe.....


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rich0372
August 2, 2008, 05:03 PM
Ok I know another gun safe thread. I've done a search on here and other sites but I'm still unsure on which safe to buy. I was going to get (I already ordered it but could still cancel) a Liberty Centurion 30 it is 1299 at Costco.com that with delivery into my house. Then I was thinking and reading and now I'n unsure I'm thinking about upgrading to the Liberty's lincoln series which Costco.com also sold (they call it the premier but I checked the specs on Libery's web site and it's the same)This safe is $2699.99 for a slightly bigger safe than the Centurion. Now I should say it will be placed in my basement and I have a monitered alarm system with a fire/smoke alarm senser and I only live a couple miles from fire dept. Plus I have 3 dogs taht watch the house pretty well. Should I spend another $1400?

Here are the specs on both. First the Centurion

In home or Curbside delivery
Color: Gloss Texture Black Mar-resistant finish
Patented 3-in-1 Flex Interior™ features adjustable shelves that can be arranged to any of three different interior configurations
Holds up to 30 long guns or other valuables, e.g. photo albums, birth certificates, tax returns, etc.
Plush upholstered gray fabric on interior surfaces, including the floor, door panel and ceiling provides style as well as durability
UL Listed Sargent & Greenleaf mechanical lock with multiple Relockers to resist drilling or torching
Key locking dial increases security for access by multiple users
UL RSC rated 12-gauge carbon steel box with triple hard plates to protect the lock from drilling attacks
1" thick composite fire door to resist prying and increase fire protection
Door features five active bolts with internal hinges to eliminate tampering or torching
Chrome plated lock and three point handle
Pre-drilled holes for bolt down security with 3/8”bolts (not included)
Interior dimensions: 32.5" W x 16" L x 57.5" H
Exterior dimensions: 36" W x 22" L x 60.5" H
(with handle depth is 25")
Total Exterior Cubic Feet: 27.7
Weight: 550 lbs.
Warranty: Limited Lifetime against attempted break-in and fire with 5-year paint and lock warranty
Toll free (800) 247-5625 for reliable customer service 8am-5pm standard Mountain Time.
Fire Protection Features:
Certified factory fire protection at temperatures up to 1200 degrees F for 30 minutes, interior temperature is no greater than 350 degrees F
Two 5/8"-thick UL Listed fire insulation in ceiling and door and one layer on all other sides/floor including door jambs
Top performing Palusol™ heat-activating door seal expands to 7 times its size to seal out heat and smoke

and now the Lincoln or Premier

In home or business, main floor delivery, including one flight of stairs if desired
Sargent &Greenleaf Electronic lock with 1 Million possible combinations for quick access
UL Listed Sargent & Greenleaf lock with multiple Relockers to resist drilling or torching
UL RSC rated 11-gauge box with triple hard plates to resist drill attacks
1" thick composite fire door to resist prying and increase fire protection
New larger bolts, now 1.25”, and 33% longer for a more secure lock up (12 total bolts with coverage on all 4 sides of the door)
New Brass Five-point handle with slip clutch for added security
New Over-Center Cam mechanism to prevent side-bolt punch attacks
Color: Smooth high gloss Black finish accented with gold pinstripes
Patented 4-in-1 Flex Velour Interior™ with four adjustable side shelves
Plush upholstered gray velour fabric on interior surfaces, including the floor, door panel and ceiling provides style as well as durability
Holds up to 34 long guns or other valuables, e.g. photo albums, birth certificates, tax returns, etc.
Dehumidifier to reduce moisture condensation inside safe is included
Interior lighting with replaceable bulbs is included
Floor is pre-drilled for bolt-down security
New anti-pry brackets to resist prying of the door
Interior dimensions: 33.5" W x 23" L x 56.5" H
Exterior dimensions: 36.5" W x 27.5" L x 60.5" H
(overall depth including handle is 30")
Total Exterior Cubic Feet: 34.66
Weight: 930 lbs.
Warranty: Limited Lifetime against attempted break-in, and fire for life with no freight charge
5-year warranty on the exterior finish and the lock
Toll Free (800) 247-5625 for reliable customer service
Fire Protection Features:
42% more fire protection than competitive models.
95,000 BTU rating, which is more fireboard than competitor’s 90 minute rated safes at 1200-1400 degrees.
Four layers of 5/8”UL Listed fire insulation in ceiling, 3 layers in the walls and door jambs.
Top performing Palusol™ heat-activating door seal expands to 10 times its size to seal our heat and smoke
http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?cat=29105&eCat=BC|114|29105&lang=en-US&whse=BC&topnav=

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neviander
August 2, 2008, 05:32 PM
You may want to check this thread out...beware the mega store safes.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=220278

Rmart30
August 2, 2008, 05:34 PM
If I was going to spend that much id buy 2 of these instead of the highest cost one you posted....

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11180233&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|114|29105&N=4012466&Mo=20&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=29105&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=

They are taller and between the 2 you have much more room and for less money.

rich0372
August 2, 2008, 05:54 PM
If I was going to spend that much id buy 2 of these instead of the highest cost one you posted

I thought of that but then I'm still in the same situation as that one is the same protection as the cheaper of the two I chose.

You may want to check this thread out...beware the mega store safes.


I know I read about this but these safes are the same you could buy from a Liberty dealer si it's not some name I've never heard of.

CB900F
August 2, 2008, 08:46 PM
Rich0372;

I'll tell you this, the $2,699.00 is so close to real safe territory, I'd certainly check out the possibility of wanting to go from RSC to true safe. That's going from a formed sheet metal body to plate steel. From very suspect fire ratings to 1700f/1 hr. as per U.L. test procedures. Mid 3's gets you the real deal, not a high strength bugling elk decal and nicer mill closeout shag carpet in the interior with an upgrade RSC.

900F

rich0372
August 2, 2008, 09:04 PM
CB900F your right the more I search the more I realize $2699 is a ripoff for that safe it only has 11 guage steel. I found a safe with 10 gauge steel and a 1/4" steel door with an hour fire rating, that's bigger than that safe for about half the price plus shipping. Then I found a "real" safe same size for around $3000-3500 range

twigs
August 2, 2008, 09:53 PM
From the last post it sounds like you have looked at some of the threads that CB900F and A1ABDJ have used to educate consumers like us. I'm saving my pennies for a "real" safe instead of a big box ripoff.

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