Want a high cap 9mm that will shoot reloads


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Steve H
August 2, 2008, 09:10 PM
Up until of days ago I was ready to get a Glock 17. They gun store guy talked me out of it 'cause I shoot a lot of my own reloads. He told me Glocks are not "reload happy" guns ............ he was talking about the unsupported chamber. Is this true? If it is what would be a high capicity 9mm that I can reload for? I'm looking for 15 - 17 rds capicity.


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possum
August 2, 2008, 09:12 PM
there is nothing wrong with shooting reloads in a glock, my dad has 2 19's and a 17 and that is all he shoots in there, is his reloads, the only thing that i would stay away from is lead ammo. because of the polygonal rifled barrels they use.

Steve H
August 2, 2008, 09:17 PM
I don't do lead...........jacketed and plated 115 gr. Does the palted stuff work ok? (Berrys etc?)

freakshow10mm
August 2, 2008, 09:17 PM
Glocks are just fine to reload for. I recommend an aftermarket barrel for piece of mind and longer brass life.

MCgunner
August 2, 2008, 09:21 PM
Most 9s will fire reloads. It's all I put through my Kel Tec and Ruger P85. I even cast a 105 SWC for my practice loads. Some of those goofy rifled barrels won't work with cast bullets, but other than that..... Personally, I don't own guns that won't shoot cast lead. I'll sell it and get something else. My bullets are free. I ain't payin' for bullets for practice ammo.

highlander 5
August 2, 2008, 09:43 PM
Ruger P series may not be the prettiest or the most accurate,but they are built like tanks. IIRC the owners manual says that you can shoot standard,+P and +P+ with no worries.
AND the mags are dirt cheap.

xsquidgator
August 2, 2008, 09:47 PM
IIRC both Glocks and HK's have the polygonal rifling which means be careful (or don't use) with lead reloads.

If you want a highcap 9mm that you can shoot lead out of, consider
-SW M&P9
-Springfield XD9

I have a Ruger P85 that now shoots only lead reloads and does just fine with them. The M&P9 is a fine pistol (I have the M&P45 and like it a lot) and the XD9 is also great (I've shot an XD9sc and plan to get one sometime)

Confederate
August 2, 2008, 09:59 PM
Reloads should shoot as well as factory loads if you load the rounds correctly. Alas, 9mm can be a difficult caliber to reload and it does take some expertise. Brass has to be uniform and crimping can be neither too much nor too little. I agree that you may want to look into a 3rd party barrel, but also make sure you master the reloading itself.

freakshow10mm
August 2, 2008, 10:22 PM
Alas, 9mm can be a difficult caliber to reload and it does take some expertise.
Are you serious? The 9mm is not a difficult caliber to reload and it doesn't take any more expertise than any straight walled cartridge. The 9mm has a slight taper to the case. Big deal. It's not a life changing event.

The Lone Haranguer
August 2, 2008, 10:40 PM
A 9mm - or any - Glock will shoot reloads just fine. Glock only warrants the firearm for factory new, SAAMI-spec ammunition, however. The case bulging problems that cause difficulty with resizing and short case life are mostly associated with the .40. Also do not shoot unjacketed lead bullets through it without periodic "deleading."

Chuck Dye
August 2, 2008, 10:56 PM
My 1987 W. German made (stamped slide, pinned in breech block) SIG-Sauer P226 has happily consumed everything I have fed it, including lead semi-wadcutter reloads, without a bobble. The only malfunction is one I deliberately induced, a failure to cycle in a series of ever more loosely held shots trying to discover what constitutes "limp wristing." (I concluded that I am NOT going to limp wrist that gun other than deliberately.) Checking the owner's manual, though, reveals that I have voided all warranties by shooting reloads. Given the gun's omnivorous appetite and accuracy with everything I have shot through it, and its age, I am not not worried.

Z-Michigan
August 3, 2008, 01:09 AM
Specifically for reloads, the hammer-fired Ruger P series (P85, P89, P94, P95) are all top choices. CDNN currently has P95's for around $250. Highly recommended.

However, any safe handgun should shoot reloads that are properly loaded. Due to the polygonal rifling, Glocks may have an issue with lead bullets. You can swap the barrel or not use lead bullets, or not use a Glock. Incidentally, from what I read HK's always have an issue with lead bullets while Glocks only sometimes do, even though both use roughly the same barrel design. Is there really a difference or just mixed ideas of what constitutes a problem? I don't know.

Also, I had read about the difficulty of reloading 9mm and had been intimidated by it, but I have had zero problems reloading it myself, as only the second type of cartridge I've tried reloading (after straight-as-straight-walled gets .38 and .357 mag). While the 9mm case is slightly tapered, it reloads just like a 38 as long as you don't over-flare the case mouth. And I was using pretty much max flare to get easy bullet seating. The biggest issue with reloading 9mm is that if you use a single stage press, the small cases are a bit clumsy to insert and remove, just because of their small size.

zxcvbob
August 3, 2008, 01:35 AM
I have a Hi-Power and I shoot mostly LRN reloads in it, loaded pretty hot.
It came with a 10-round magazine, but I bought a couple of original equipment 13-round mags for it, and a 30 round mag. (the 30 sticks a few inches out the bottom of the grip)

Ten rounds seems like high-capacity to me because I'm used to shooting revolvers. :)

Darthbauer
August 3, 2008, 01:41 AM
My 226 has put everything from old Mexican 9mm ammo to reloads to Tap and hasn't had a single problem.

45ACPUSER
August 3, 2008, 01:46 AM
Gun store advice and Internet lore! LOL!

The caution with reloads is pretty simple, do not buy let alone shoot gun show reloads. If you are reloading your own, then have anal tendancies!
There is caution to be applied with polygonal rifled bbsl ie Glock and HK USP's come to mind as lead reloads can be problematic.. Use a chamber gauge to check your reloads, or better yet use the chamber of the bbl you are shooting to to check the loaded rounds. Use common sense and work up your loads for accuracy, reliability, and safety! Someone better go tell the three G17's I have that they are not supposed to shoot reloads?

usp_fan
August 3, 2008, 01:53 AM
SIG 226 or if you like plastic the new 250. Others have already mentioned the Hi Power. CZ makes some great pistols 9mm.

All of these should be fine with reloads--lead or others. As an interesting point, Glock's use a barrel that is rifled polygonally. This causes lead to build up faster. However, I have never heard of this causing a problem in 9mm. Only in larger calibers.

JohnnyGrey
August 3, 2008, 01:56 AM
I have a Springfield XD/SC and a CZ75. They both seem to eat just about anything I buy or load. In fact, the CZ hasn't fired a single round of factory ammo in its entire life, just reloads.

Sunray
August 3, 2008, 02:21 AM
"...I shoot mostly LRN reloads in it..." 121 grain Truncated Cone cast bullets work well out of my Inglis. CF issue mags hold 14, as evil as they are, up here. 10 rounds only for pistols. The 20 round mag I have sticks out the bottom a bit too. Feeds with no problems though.
In any case, the mag capacity nor reloadability of the cartridge isn't anywhere near as important as the fit to your hand. If a Glock fits your hand and feels right(I find 'em kind of slippery. Easily fixed with a Pachmayr slip on rubber grip), buy it. And like 45ACPUSER says, don't ever use other people's reloads.
"...not supposed to shoot reloads?..." Always thought that was daft.
"...9mm can be a difficult caliber to reload..." Nonsense. It's no different than any other cartridge. Carbide dies are your friend though.

RON in PA
August 3, 2008, 03:07 AM
When I had a Glock 17 I fired thousands of my own reloads through it without a hitch. I used plated bullets over the bulky AA 7. There is nothing difficult about loading 9x19 if you use carbide dies and are anal about your reloading techniques, just like any other pistol caliber.

loop
August 3, 2008, 07:17 AM
Yet another one.

The caliber that has issues with unsupported chambers is .40 S&W.

I shot thousands of rounds of cast lead bullets out of my Glock 19 in 9mm before I sold it. Never a hitch.

Keep your gun clean and do not push pressure limits. That is all it comes down to.

I swear I'll never respond to a Glock KaBoom thread again, I swear...

putteral
August 3, 2008, 01:48 PM
All I shoot through my Ruger KP95 are reloads. Mainly lead. Have 2 Mec-Gar 17 round mags for it and have never had any problems.

WVMountainBoy
August 3, 2008, 03:39 PM
I've never heard of a Glock having issues with reloads or handloadings. No manufacturer is going to tell you to load up the biggest baddest hottest load you can and slam it through their weapon. I've fired a little of everything through my friends' and my Glock and never had a hiccup. I've also never heard anyone say that 9mm was of particular trouble to load.

Steve C
August 3, 2008, 06:35 PM
In 9mm chambering like the Glock 17 you where looking at, the chamber is fully supported so the "store guy" didn't know what he was talking about.

The only issue with reloads and the standard Glock barrel is the polygonal rifling which is not lead friendly. It will lead up badly and you really won't be able to see it on simple visual inspection but run some lead remover and a good brush down the bore followed by a patch and you'll see plenty of lead if you shoot cast or swagged bullets. Load jacketed up to full power or plated at modest velocities and you won't have any problems. If you cast your own and insist on shooting lead bullets then get an after market barrel with conventional land and groove rifling.

Autolycus
August 3, 2008, 06:37 PM
I like the Sig P226 myself.

chipperi
August 3, 2008, 07:45 PM
I have a Glock 17 with thousands of reloads shot through it just fine. Never a problem.

tiger rag
August 4, 2008, 12:11 AM
Drop a storm lake or KKM in the g17 and go to town!

robctwo
August 4, 2008, 10:25 AM
Cz75BD, CZP-01, BHP, Sig 226 all shoot lead, plated, fmj reloads. Glock 17 & 34 shoot fmj reloads just fine. I use the Lee Factory Crimp Die in station 5 of my LnL and never have any troubles with feeding. Single stack 9's are fun too.

wnycollector
August 4, 2008, 10:47 AM
+1 on the SIG P226. Mine eats anything I feed it!

aka108
August 4, 2008, 01:24 PM
Star model 30 if you can find one. Feeds anything and your empties will land in a little pile if your shooting position remains relatively constant. 16 rd capacity.

possum
August 4, 2008, 03:31 PM
I don't do lead...........jacketed and plated 115 gr. Does the palted stuff work ok? (Berrys etc?)
yep it will be fine, all my dad reloads for his is rainier.

trkyshootr
August 5, 2008, 10:43 PM
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trkyshootr
August 5, 2008, 10:45 PM
How about an M&P or XD? I've got and enjoy shooting both of these guns, and they, like the Glock, are polymer framed. If you might prefer a steel framed alternative, the Hi-Power (with a normal capacity of only 13) and CZ 75 are both good choices.

I've shot lots and lots of lead - almost exclusively - through each of these without any problems.

Master of Arms
August 6, 2008, 02:23 AM
I have a Glock and I`ve shot about a thousand rounds in the past few months with ZERO problemas. About half`n half jacketed and lead head semi wad cutters of which, by the way, were the worst bullets I`ve ever used while reloading.
Watch the he said, she said folks. I`ve never heard that or read anything about such a thing before.

sigma 40ve
August 6, 2008, 05:36 AM
I have 6 Glocks. 4-9mm's , a 40 and a 10mm. About 90% of the rds that go thru them are my reloads. Use established reloading data when making your reloads. I personally won't use anyones reloads other than mine. I use a single stage press and am very anal about the reloading process. I only use Berrys or Rainier plated bullets in them. Never any problems.

nelson133
August 6, 2008, 08:52 PM
I only have a couple of full sized 9s, a Ruger P95 and a Springfield Model 9. The Springfield is a CZ assembled here. Both shoot reloads just fine, but the Ruger truly shoots anything. I also have a Sig P, and like all of my other Sigs, it has a tight chamber and a reload has to be under max oal and taper crimped tightly to feed reliably.

pistolero6869
August 7, 2008, 05:19 PM
You like The Glock 17! so do i great gun "The frist Glock" Buy it you will be happy. I have shot hard cast 125 gr rn slugs in my handloads in My G-17 not a problemm but keep it to around 100 rounds then clean your gun better yet stock up on rainer plated or Berrys plated and drive them faster than lead slugs and less dirty. Get The Glock.

armoredman
August 7, 2008, 05:57 PM
All I shoot through my CZ P01 is reloads, plated, jacketed, or lead I cast myself.

buenhec
August 8, 2008, 01:29 AM
My CZ 01 Shadow shoots anything I give it as well.

valor1
August 8, 2008, 01:37 AM
+1 on the CZ's! No problem with any bullets I feed them.

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