S&W 686P or a 620


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MrBill120
August 4, 2008, 11:33 AM
Why does the 686P 4" seem more popular that a 620?

The only differences I see with the 620 is that it's .1oz lighter doesn't have the full lug barrel and according to S&W's website is 1/8th of shorter than the 686P.

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Seven For Sure
August 4, 2008, 11:43 AM
The 620 has a two piece barrel which some people don't like. I have heard they can be more accurate but can come apart. These are just things I've read on the internet though. I have a few 686+'s and they're great. I like how the 620 looks also and would have one if I were rich.

Matt-J2
August 4, 2008, 11:46 AM
Been wondering that myself. All I know is I see 686+ models in stores, and have never seen a 620 in person. I do find the 620 interesting though, so I wish I could handle one.

Sevengunner
August 4, 2008, 11:04 PM
I've had a 620 for a couple of years. I very seldom shoot anything but .357 125 gr. anymore and I shoot approx. 100 rounds per month (not heavy use). The gun has performed flawlessly and shows no signs of weakening. It's comfortable to shoot and if it's not shooting tight groups I know better than to blame the gun.

When I bought it, I spent a week going back and forth between the 620 and 686. The action on them is identical, and I finally decided simply because the 620 is marginally lighter (I was planning on carrying it). You can feel the weight difference if you hold one in each hand.

I don't think I'd have been unhappy with the seven shot 686. Frankly, it's not clear to me why S&W needed to offer the choice, given the functional similarities.

LA Rondo
August 5, 2008, 02:13 AM
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/la_rondo/620a.jpg

The 620 is drawn from a different model. I'd say Model 66. Updated accordingly

It's a super fine revolver, just like a 686 would be.
It's pointability is slightly better, because I'd say, the missing ounce comes from the barrel front end.

She's pretty snug. Thight head space and cylinder gap. Not every diet works. I've had so far a couple of hundred American Eagle .38 going through it.
I noticed the cylinder would'nt want to turn freely, a number of times, resulting in a hardly cockable hammer or pullable trigger.
As I found out the primer top needs to be nice and flat, something to look out for with this revolver, when choosing ammunition.

Mine has insanly smooth action, it's hard to believe, it's not a PC.
She came a bit dirty when I got it from the factory. It felt like someone has shot a few extra rounds and tuned the action, while leaving the cleaning to me.:D

I love that revolver.

I have a 686+ 6"BBL along with it.
Same frame, same cylinder. Different hammer/trigger, different barrel.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm178/la_rondo/620sketchA.jpg

ArchAngelCD
August 5, 2008, 03:59 AM
I have owned both a M619 (fixed sight version of the M620) and a M686. I like both and it really comes down to which feels better in YOUR hand.

The M620 will feel more like the balance of a K frame whereas the M686 is all L frame. Eben though the M620 is a 7 shot revolver it doesn't "seem" larger than a 6 shot model, again because of balance. The M686 looks bigger because of the full underlug which is missing on the M620. My M619 was VERY accurate so it possible the S&W claims of better accuracy from a 2 piece barrel just might be true.

I like both and I'm sure you will too. Only you can decide which you like better. I hope this helps...

Here is the M619: (which I no longer have)

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/ArchAngelCD/DSCN1996.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/ArchAngelCD/DSCN2079.jpg

Nematocyst
August 5, 2008, 04:09 AM
I'd say Model 66.
Here's a model 65.

Only difference from a 66 is fixed sights.

I owned a 4" 686. Found it too barrel heavy. (YMMV)

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=61153&d=1185070004

ArchAngelCD
August 5, 2008, 04:29 AM
Actually, it's written right on the S&W site the M619 and M620 are the L frame replacements for the M65 and M66 K frames.
Smith & Wesson's respected and time-tested Model 65 and Model 66, among the first of the stainless steel Magnums, have entered the 21st Century in a bold way. Their heavy-duty replacements, the new Model 619 and Model 620, are built with two-piece, semi-lug barrel construction for enhanced performance and greater durability. Each is offered with a 7 shot cylinder. Whether you choose the Model 619 with a fixed sight or the Model 620 with an adjustable, target-style sight you will be impressed with its construction, reliability and accuracy.
The Model 620 (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14804&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15705&isFirearm=Y) is in the normal 2008 S&W Catalog and also listed in the LE Service Revolver section but for some reason the Model 619 (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14803&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26806&isFirearm=Y) is only listed in the LE Service Revolver section. The List price on the M619 is also $125 less than the M620!!

If you look at what's listed in the LE Service Revolvers (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&categoryId=26806&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26802&top_category=26802) you will also notice there's a 3" M64 (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14757&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=26806&isFirearm=Y) that's only listed there too.

(sorry to ramble on but I do like S&W 38/357 revolvers!! LOL)

Nematocyst
August 5, 2008, 04:47 AM
My issue w/ 619 and 620 is that
they're currently only available w/ 4" barrels.

I understand sight radius and balance.

But for me, the 3" barrel is best for this revolver.

It's that proportional feeling.

YMMV.

ArchAngelCD
August 6, 2008, 04:38 AM
Nematocyst,
You're right, a 3" M619/620 would be nice. It would probably be more popular than the 3" M686 and M686+ revolvers.

MrBill120
August 6, 2008, 10:56 AM
...ok, so basically...a 620 is an "L" frame like the 686P....with the difference being a 2 piece, partial lug barrel? Do I understand this right?

So, now isn't this a little redundant? (Too bad it's not blued!)

ArchAngelCD
August 7, 2008, 02:07 AM
Yes Bill, you have it right and also, it comes in a 7 shooter only like the M686 Plus. It's not available in a 6 shooter.

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