Double Tap Ammo in Charter Arms .44?


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CZF
August 5, 2008, 02:09 PM
Anyone carry a Bulldog or Pug with hot .44 Special ammo like the 1,100 fps Double Tap load?

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HOME DEPOT GEORGE
August 5, 2008, 07:15 PM
I would be careful with hot loads in the charter, while they should be ok for carrying a steady diet might loosen up the gun.

The Lone Haranguer
August 5, 2008, 09:32 PM
Which will give up first, the revolver or your hand? :p

wnycollector
August 6, 2008, 06:51 AM
I would be very leery about shooting much DT ammo in a charter. If their .44 special ammo is anything like their 125gr .357...look out;) If it were me, I would put a cylinder or two through it to see if there were any problems (crimp/bullet jump or primers backing out) and them carry it!

19-3Ben
August 6, 2008, 10:55 AM
I wouldn't. The charter arms .44 is supposedly one of the reasons that .44spl loads have ben watered down so much.

32 Magnum
August 6, 2008, 05:36 PM
The 1st Generation Charter Arms Bulldogs are built stronger than the older S&W .44SPls - solid frames, no side plates, double, positive cylinder lock-up, ordnace steel frames and cylinders, stronger crane system, shorter hammer throw, 8 groove rifling, unbreakable firing pin and transfer bar ignition/safety systems. The reduced loading specs were established before the CA Bulldog 44s were introduced into the market after 1978 - so the Bulldogs can't be the reason for the "weaker" .44 SPL SAAMI specs.
For those who cannot abide by or tolerate heavy recoiling handguns - those with weak wrists, little hand and upper arms strength, who can't tolerate muzzle blast, etc. - the Bulldog in .44 SPL full power loading is NOT the cartridge for you...at 19 or 20oz (SS version) unloaded, there isn't much gun mass to absorb the recoil impulse and the 3" barrel doesn't usually burn up all the powder. I have 5 CA 1st Gen Bulldogs in a variety of configurations - I have shot several and routinely carry one SS 3"er loaded with the newly reintroduced Triton Hi-Vel .44SPL 240 gr JHP rounds, and they are a handful to control at 1050 fps muzzle velocity - but this piece makes a very potent SD round at ranges out to 30 feet or so AND that is why I carry it in preference to a .38 SPL +P.

Elvishead
August 7, 2008, 02:49 AM
I over heard a Charter Arms Rep. telling somebody the Reg .38 that are not rated at for +P. He stated, "Yes, it can handle +P"

But I didn't hear anything about the 44spl., but if the 38 can handle +P yours might be able to handle DTs.

I'd E-mail DTA and ask them.

memphisjim
August 7, 2008, 02:54 AM
the charter bulldog 44 seemed to work fine for the son of sam

Beagle-zebub
August 7, 2008, 03:55 AM
the charter bulldog 44 seemed to work fine for the son of sam

Sure, but was he using Double Tap ammo?

45crittergitter
August 7, 2008, 06:37 PM
I agree you ain't gonna like shootin' it.

jeepmor
August 8, 2008, 12:35 AM
Buy a box, have some fun. See if you finish it. I have shot DT in my 10mm, and it's got plenty of bippy in its skippy if that's what you want.

Double Tap will impress you if your a first timer, impress you plenty.

wnycollector
August 8, 2008, 09:48 AM
I think your bulldog will be fine if you shoot a box of DT gold dots/year (~1 cylinder full /month). That may seem like to little...but as other posters have mentioned the bulldog is gonna be a handfull!

Elvishead
August 9, 2008, 04:41 AM
Finally, a real high performance 44 Special loading for personal defense! This loading uses standard pressure. You can use it in any .44 Special that is in good condition! This powerful loading comes in boxes of 50!

Caliber : .44 Special

Bullet : 200gr. Speer Gold Dot Jacketed Hollow Point

Ballistics : 1100fps - 538 ft./lbs. - 5.0" bbl.
1350fps from a Win. 1894AE 16" trapper carbine

Box of 50rds

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