Any thoughts on the ar-15 pistols


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csd4682
August 6, 2008, 03:07 PM
Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on the Olympic arms ar-15 pistol, or the Rock River ar-15 pistol? I

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rcmodel
August 6, 2008, 03:23 PM
Yes! I have thoughts about AR pistols.

None of them are good though, so you don't want to hear them.

rcmodel

VegasOPM
August 6, 2008, 04:09 PM
They are a pretty good answer to a question nobody had. IMHO, they are merely toys. They are hard to shoot accurately, they have muzzle blast from H*** and they lose over 750 fps from a 20". If you want to make one easier to shoot, put a stock on it. If you want to allow the .223 to live up to it's abilities, put a longer barrel on it. Voila, you now have an AR-15 carbine.;)

Thernlund
August 6, 2008, 04:12 PM
I think the only practical use for such arms is in close protection, as they are easy to sling under a suit or sport coat and a .223 will sail through soft body armor in most cases.

Besides that, just a novelty.


-T.

41magsnub
August 6, 2008, 04:22 PM
These and pistol grip only shotguns are sort of in the same boat, both have uses in extremely limited circumstances.

ny32182
August 6, 2008, 04:24 PM
They are completely pointless in my opinion; I already have the smallest AR15 that I consider to be useful; its a 10.5" barrel with standard carbine length gas system (rather than some funky one off job) and... a stock! So you can actually hit something! :)

Professor Gun
August 6, 2008, 04:36 PM
Yep. Why?

Do these things actually sell?

SimpleIsGood229
August 6, 2008, 05:06 PM
Yep, pretty much just toys, in my opinion. FUN toys, however! :D

Thernlund
August 6, 2008, 05:07 PM
Do these things actually sell?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=105869497

Looks as if. ;)


-T.

taliv
August 6, 2008, 05:47 PM
they're not even a good way to waste 223 ammo

jpwilly
August 6, 2008, 05:48 PM
I've shot the Kel Tec 223 pistol...FUN but I still think you should-Get an AK Pistol!

http://www.colemantyler.com/prodimagesl/akchamppistoll.jpg

csd4682
August 6, 2008, 06:29 PM
my thought was if you buy and register the 7inch pistol, and properly register it within class 3 regulations, and local laws, you can then put a stock on it and any size upper you want from 7" to 20" the possiblities are endless. And everyone is right I think its a toy, but it would be nice if you could switch out the upper and have a machine

Conqueror
August 6, 2008, 06:32 PM
Spend the extra $200 and make it an SBR. Well worth the wait and the cash. SBRs shoot about a thousand times better than AR pistols.

JFettig
August 6, 2008, 06:41 PM
I have one, it does serve a purpose and it does shoot accurately. ~1" at 100 yards, 125gr speer TNT @2000 FPS, 1400ft-lbs out of a 10.5" barrel. .300/221. I plan on deer hunting with it this fall.


Jon

thunderstorm
August 6, 2008, 07:48 PM
I have shot a RRA's 9mm, it did not have a bipod so it was EXTREAMILY barrel heavy witch made it hard to hit anything.

RNB65
August 6, 2008, 07:49 PM
Silly toys. :barf:

only1asterisk
August 6, 2008, 07:50 PM
AR15 pistols are great at turning money into noise!

David

Macchina
August 6, 2008, 09:18 PM
I like the concept. I wish they would make one in a smaller caliber (such as 9mm or .45 ACP), and perhaps make the dimensions smaller. It would be cool if you could put the magazine in the handle as well. Maybe make it recoil operated also. Get rid of the hand guard too, and the peep sights. I don't think you need the rail along the top, and the barrel should be 5" inches instead of 7". I sketched up a quick drawing with the changes I stated:
http://www.enemyforces.com/firearms/glock17.jpg

JWarren
August 6, 2008, 09:21 PM
Not a fan myself.


-- John

mgregg85
August 6, 2008, 09:51 PM
I think I'd much rather have an underfolding AK, it still has the longer barrel but its a small package.

SimpleIsGood229
August 7, 2008, 12:09 AM
Come to think of it, I'd rather just have an AKS-74U and be done with it! :neener:

Stevie-Ray
August 7, 2008, 07:10 PM
I've thought about it in the past. Bought a PLR-16 instead. Much cheaper and does the same thing.

ants
August 7, 2008, 08:02 PM
On TV last night they had a documentary on gangs in El Salvador. One gang of teenage boys had a full-auto M16 pistol. In front of the camera they demonstrated the 3-position selector. They had 20 round magazines. I suppose there is no such thing as fire control. Pull trigger once, try to hang on until mag is empty.

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