Powder for 223 in AR


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tiger rag
August 6, 2008, 09:20 PM
Just finished of the last of my Varget.Looking for something better can you recomend a powder for 55fmjbt in a 20" AR? Looking for decent range ammo,cost and availability is a factor Thanks.

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dakotasin
August 6, 2008, 09:25 PM
h-322 and h-335.

Seafarer12
August 6, 2008, 09:32 PM
335 is a good one.

shootinxd
August 6, 2008, 09:39 PM
AA2230,Works for me.

brentwal
August 6, 2008, 09:44 PM
W748

Doug b
August 6, 2008, 09:47 PM
H 335 and magnum small rifle primer.

Evenflo76
August 6, 2008, 10:05 PM
AA 2015 here.

midnights
August 7, 2008, 12:54 AM
Reloader 10 for me

Ridgerunner665
August 7, 2008, 01:00 AM
Get some Accurate Arms 2230 and don't look back.

If you decide to shoot bullets weighing 62 grains or more...use Reloder 15.

Varget is a bit over rated...its AWESOME for 68 grain and heavier bullets, but Varget just ain't all that good for the lighter bullets IMO.

Bush Pilot
August 7, 2008, 03:47 AM
+1 on H335, clean and it meters well.

neal7250
August 7, 2008, 05:35 AM
H-335 is the Mack daddy for the 223. It is all that I use.;)

MDW GUNS
August 7, 2008, 05:40 AM
25 grain of WIN 746

flynlr
August 7, 2008, 06:48 AM
aa2230 or ramshot tac has worked great for all my 223 loads

lordgroom
August 7, 2008, 07:13 AM
IMR-4895 groups .68" at 100 yds with 55 gr FMJBT and I haven't even tried tuning the seating depth yet.

ForneyRider
August 7, 2008, 08:58 AM
I'm using Varget. But all the suggested powders look good from my reloading data. Also, RL 15. I have had really good luck with RL19 and RL 22 in my magnums. RL powders are pretty easy to measure, and I don't want to trickle for a semi-auto.

BL(C)-2, TAC are some others.

I saw Varget last night at range for 28.95/lb!

adkpete
August 7, 2008, 01:46 PM
I like Ramshot TAC and H335

George757
August 7, 2008, 03:37 PM
AA 2230 works great!

matrem
August 7, 2008, 04:20 PM
It's too bad we can't buy powder in in 1/4 lb containers.The more experimenting,the better.I have experimented a fair amount(there are quite a few mostly full containers on top shelf of loading bench),but I have to keep buying more H335.

rerick
August 7, 2008, 05:21 PM
I use H335 and AA2230

cpttango30
August 7, 2008, 05:35 PM
Here are what I use albeit I don't have a ar mine is a bolt gun.

748 for cold weather
Varget
2015
Benchmark never did any good with this.

My current load is 24.5gr 2015 with a 50gr v-max.

frankd4
August 7, 2008, 05:57 PM
WCC844 from Wideners or pats reloading its what the Millatary use its close to H335 about 10% hotter.

RustyFN
August 7, 2008, 05:58 PM
H335 and W748.
Rusty

elkhuntingfool
August 7, 2008, 06:51 PM
W748

I've shot 3031 as well - great groups.

tiger rag
August 7, 2008, 07:35 PM
I will be using CCI 41 primers and 55fmjbt can you recomend loads with h335,2230 or any of the afore mentioned powders
Thanks

Evenflo76
August 7, 2008, 09:29 PM
http://www.handloads.org/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=223%20Remington&Weight=All&type=Rifle&Order=Powder&Source=

Hiaboo
August 7, 2008, 10:47 PM
I use Varget. Don't like 335 just due to the drop characterstics.. 2230 works well but, a bit pricey for me and works its way between the cams in the lee powder measure.. messy. Reloder 15 is good, but don't use it. I'd like to try Tac.

Wildfire
August 7, 2008, 10:57 PM
Hey there ;
I'm in the AA2230 crowd. Flows very well from a Uniflow powder dump.
Burns clean too. The only powder I use for AR-15.

FM12
August 7, 2008, 11:14 PM
H335, although it can be temperature (ambient temp) sensitive in hot weather.

I've shot some really small (.3X) groups using it, though, in a Rem M700 medium weight bbl.

NavajoNPaleFace
August 7, 2008, 11:27 PM
I've been using 26.5 grain of Hodgdon BL-C2 with 55 grain FMJBT.

Hunter0924
August 8, 2008, 12:51 AM
I like IMR 4895 myself.

FreeinAZ
August 8, 2008, 02:25 AM
H335 or H322

Thirties
August 8, 2008, 08:43 AM
"H 335 and magnum small rifle primer."

Doug B, I see the Speer load manual says to use SR Magnum primers with this powder in .223rem, but no other load manuals share this recommendation.

Can you or others give us some more info on this?

Thanks, from a curious mind who wants to know.

SSN Vet
August 8, 2008, 09:56 AM
another +1 for H335

meters very well in my Lee Auto-Disk

25 gr of H335 behind a 55 gr. FMJBT is far more accurate than I am.

Pilot
August 8, 2008, 10:06 AM
Another vote for AA2230.

amlevin
August 8, 2008, 10:49 AM
Here where I live 2230 is the least expensive. 3$/lb cheaper than H-335 on small quantities, more on large. I also found it to be a lot cleaner than H-335.

Doug b
August 8, 2008, 05:51 PM
Thirties, most ball powders need a mag prime.Compare 223 rem data and dimensions with the 222 rem mag.

Thirties
August 8, 2008, 06:17 PM
Thanks, Doug. I didn't realize it. Only the Speer book mentions magnum small rifle primers for the .223rem.

fastbike
August 8, 2008, 07:20 PM
C'mon, everyone of the powder manufacturers has a downloadable load manual. How hard is it to do your own research?

tiger rag
August 8, 2008, 07:41 PM
Not hard to look up data .Thats not what I am after , Hands on unbiased opinions from actual Shooters / reloaders,Thanks

Thirties
August 8, 2008, 07:54 PM
Fastbike, I've done the research, and only Speer calls for magnum primers with the H335 specifically. Neither the Hornady, not the Lyman manuals give the magnum recommendation. So, I'm asking for some input on that.

I guess I'll phone Speer or email them to get an answer.

jhansman
August 9, 2008, 02:18 AM
Another vote for H335. Great powder.

Mr White
August 9, 2008, 09:39 AM
Damn! Sounds like I might have to get a jug of H335.

For my 100 yd match loads when I load 55 or 60 gr bullets, I have very good results with H4895. It's nice to know that the loads you tested in March will perform the same during a match in July.

ForneyRider
August 11, 2008, 10:14 AM
I saw H-Varget for 29$ recently. I looked at the price of my old jar of Varget and it was 21$. It tends to be more expensive than other powders I see on shelf at reloader supply store. I am experimenting with 50gr SP, 55gr Blitz King, 60gr, 63gr and 69gr Match King Sierra bullets for my 1:9 twist 20in AR. I have used 26gr Varget to drop in them all, as my load data showed less than max for all loads. I am going the single-shot route for the 69gr MatchKings. So the powder has same amount of room as the shorter bullets.

On the FC brass, not sure how to get much more Varget in there. It was at the base of the neck with 26gr with no tamping.

usp_fan
August 11, 2008, 04:35 PM
Another 4895 shooter here. It's my universal rifle powder. Work well for my .223 and my 30 06.

Thirties
August 11, 2008, 04:47 PM
Another 4895 shooter here. It's my universal rifle powder. Work well for my .223 and my 30 06.

USP FAN, is this a ball powder? Will it meter consistently?

Another thing: is this IMR 4895, or H 4895?

hovbuild
August 13, 2008, 05:43 AM
I have been using 2520 for 69 smk and 77smk and it is very accurate. It is clean, meters great and at 600 yard does the trick for me...I tried reloader 15 and it is hard to meter and dirty, but is accurate. Both group the same.

onebigelf
August 13, 2008, 06:36 AM
I love the Varget. I've tried Ramshot TAC and been pleased, plus Wideners has it cheap. LAtely I've been using 4895 because I use it in my .308. Using one powder lets me buy much and save on the HazMat/lb.

John

ArchAngelCD
August 13, 2008, 02:18 PM
I don't load for the .223 but my shooting buddy uses nothing but H335. He's tried others but gets the best results with 335.

Thirties
August 13, 2008, 02:25 PM
I don't load for the .223 but my shooting buddy uses nothing but H335. He's tried others but gets the best results with 335.

What primers does he use? And is he using a semi-auto (military) type of rifle?

ArchAngelCD
August 13, 2008, 02:52 PM
He's shooting a Bushmaster AR-15 type rifle. I'm sorry, I don't remember what primer he's using. I think it's a standard small rifle primer not a Magnum primer but I'll have to ask him to be sure. I do know it's a CCI primer and it might just be their #41 Military primer, again, I'll have to check with him to be sure. (sorry)

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