CZ-75 long-term durability?
Kestrel
August 31, 2003, 11:35 PM
I read on John Farnam's web site (http://www.defense-training.com/quips/9June03.html) this quote from a friend of his in the Philippines:
In terms of durability, frame, slide and barrel of the CZ's have stood up to hard use, but smaller, internal parts have not. You need two to keep one running.
Have any of you seen this? I haven't heard of this being a problem over here, but wonder if anyone has run into this?
Thanks,
Steve
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Bren
August 31, 2003, 11:47 PM
I have a 1984, it has shot plenty of +P and +P+ and is like the day it was made.
I don't think you have anything to worry about and CZ has the extra parts. ;)
Buy an extra one? :confused: Bren
Stephen A. Camp
September 1, 2003, 12:07 AM
Hello. Any breakage has not been my experience with the CZ-75's I've been shooting fairly regularly since the early '80s. Mike Eagleshield of CZ-USA has mentioned that some recent 9mm CZ pistols came with too light a recoil spring and some slide stop breakage began occurring. I run 18 lb recoil springs in mine, but most prefer 16-lbs or so.
If interested, more information here:
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ75.htm
Best.
Tecolote
September 1, 2003, 01:04 AM
It might be the ammo. Over at www.glocktalk.com there are reliable reports of Glock 17 slides cracking in the Philippines likey caused by very hot ammo.
If you have a CZ85 keep your eye on the slide stop. I've read some reports of breakages. Sometimes the magazine catch spring screw can work loose if not tightened right. Also inspect the sear spring because it can wear prematurely causing the safety to drift. But that's rare.
VG
September 1, 2003, 07:34 AM
If you have a CZ85 keep your eye on the slide stop. I've read some reports of breakages. Sometimes the magazine catch spring screw can work loose if not tightened right. Also inspect the sear spring because it can wear prematurely causing the safety to drift. But that's rare.
Older CZ 85's had a problem with the slide stop breaking. They redesigned the part sometime in the 90's and the new part has more wall thickness. It requires a gunsmith to make the change, but CZUSA did the work and replaced mine for free despite being long off warranty. Got it back in about two weeks.
PCRCCW
September 1, 2003, 08:01 AM
"Have any of you seen this? I haven't heard of this being a problem over here, but wonder if anyone has run into this?"
Well...Rumors, YES....seen it, NOPE. Slide stops were the biggest thing and honestly it wasnt THAT many. CZ's run and run. The company does have its weakness's...but its not in the steal parts..in the slightest.
The OEM springs are a point of weirdness for me....With every CZ Ive had , have or will have, Wolff gets phone call..........Including my mag springs.
As far as a long term torture test..my Compacts have the most rounds thru them...my first steel framed gun with close to 10000 rnds thru it...lots of +P and not a hiccup. Same with my last PCR...lots of rounds through it also....+P and the lighter alloy frame on it..just kept asking for more.
Shoot well.....
Kestrel
September 1, 2003, 09:43 AM
Thanks for all the replies.
Is there any difference in durability of the Pre-B models vs. the B models?
Thanks again,
Steve
Tecolote
September 1, 2003, 11:21 AM
Not that I've heard about but I prefer the frame safety of the B. Removing and installing the frame safety on a pre-B requires a lot of care and CZ doesn't make the detente or plunger spring anymore. If you lose it you're SOL.
Walt Sherrill
September 1, 2003, 06:23 PM
The secret of dealing with the safety on the pre-B is to stick a small pin or piece of metal in the safety -- there's a small hole in the affected safety lever for that purpose -- to hold the spring in place, before removing the safety from the frame.
Otherwise, you'll give up several evenings trying to figure out how to reassemble that strange little device.
Tecolote
September 1, 2003, 06:53 PM
The pin is a good idea but for ham fisted types like me the "B" safety is a lot easier to handle.:D
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