Robber's Gun Breaks Into Pieces During Holdup


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lookn4varmints
August 7, 2008, 08:34 PM
Glock jokes set to begin in 4, 3, 2, 1...........

Robber's Gun Breaks Into Pieces During Holdup

http://10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2008/08/07/dublin_robbery.html?sid=102

Thursday, August 7, 2008 1:16 PM
DUBLIN, Ohio — Police and the FBI said that they were searching for a man who dropped his gun into several pieces during a Wednesday robbery.

According to investigators, a man wearing black clothing, a red bandanna and who was waving a gun burst into the First Merit Bank, located at 7490 Sawmill Rd.

Police said that the robber immediately yelled for everyone to get down on the ground.

As he vigorously waved the gun, the weapon fell to the floor and broke into several pieces.

According to the FBI, the robber kept yelling at everyone to stay down as he picked the pieces off the ground and put the gun back together again.

Once recomposed, police said that the robber jumped over the teller counter and ordered employees to give him money. The employees complied, opened their drawers and stepped back as the robber took the money, including a dye-pack, and placed it into his bag.

The robber jumped back over the counter and ran away from the bank, police said.

He is described as black, in his 30s, and is 6 feet 1 inch tall with a medium build.

The robbery was the 36th robbery of the year in the Columbus area, compared to 32 at this time last year, according to the FBI.

Anyone with information about the robbery is asked to contact the Columbus Police Robbery Squad at 614-645-4665 or the FBI at 614-744-2168.

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kentucky_Dave
August 7, 2008, 08:37 PM
oh that's good.
Thank you

yesit'sloaded
August 7, 2008, 08:44 PM
Want to start a pool as to what it was? I'm going with a Davis, Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, or Lindsey.

jdc1244
August 7, 2008, 08:49 PM
Davis, Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, or Lindsey.

They’re designed to do that – easier to get rid of the evidence. :)

chipperi
August 7, 2008, 08:56 PM
And why didn't someone beat the snot out of this dumb SOB while he was trying to pick his piece of or should I say pieces of Jennings off the floor.

plexreticle
August 7, 2008, 08:58 PM
I bet it was an airsoft or some other toy.

p2000sk
August 7, 2008, 09:11 PM
Poor chap. At least now he can afford to finance something nicer.

belus
August 7, 2008, 09:13 PM
Maybe the Sphinx was withdrawing some cash?
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image_film/MysteryMen_28.jpg

Other quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132347/quotes) from The Mystery Men.

NavyLCDR
August 7, 2008, 09:50 PM
One more instance to point to the effectiveness of gun control. Nobody in the bank was carrying. What a perfect time to take action, when the perp bends over to pick up the pieces of whatever he was waving around, put a .45 in his butt. Since no one was apparently carrying, though, just give him the money and let him go on his way.

Obviously, if Ohio had stricter gun control laws, he wouldn't have had whatever piece of crap he was calling a gun to begin with.... :barf:

h-word
August 7, 2008, 09:52 PM
I'd die laughing rather than give him any money. Is it a good shoot when the bad guy's gun is on the floor in pieces?

Maelstrom
August 7, 2008, 09:56 PM
I'm voting on either a Lorcin, or maybe something nicer like something made from Legos.

NavyLCDR
August 7, 2008, 10:03 PM
:D
http://gizmodo.com/5020573/working-lego-gun-will-make-you-shoot-bricks

:neener:

FieroCDSP
August 7, 2008, 10:13 PM
It's funny that this happened at a Firstmerit,as they are mostly posted gun-free zones.

Standing Wolf
August 7, 2008, 10:39 PM
The robbery was the 36th robbery of the year in the Columbus area, compared to 32 at this time last year, according to the FBI.

It's Bush's fault.

lee n. field
August 7, 2008, 11:06 PM
Lindsey.

Lindsay? Is that the latest iteration of the Jennings/Bryco line?

RP88
August 7, 2008, 11:07 PM
the gun disassembling itself presented a good opportunity to run up and kick the guy in the face. What was he gonna do aside from maybe hit you back, then run once he realized that his plan had gone to crap?

Seems like there are alot more spineless victims and clerks than what Wildest Police Videos led me to believe.:rolleyes:

Guns and more
August 7, 2008, 11:07 PM
Some days are like that.
Poor chap. At least now he can afford to finance something nicer.
Not after the dye pack explodes.

jasonguerard
August 7, 2008, 11:13 PM
Why when I read the title but before I clicked on this thread did I hear the perp going "Damn Glock!" in the back of my mind ?

230RN
August 7, 2008, 11:34 PM
Shooting or kicking a man while he's down...

...and unarmed...

... for shame.

Sistema1927
August 7, 2008, 11:39 PM
I would have been carrying, but even if I hadn't been he wouldn't have gotten off the ground under his own power.

It appears that the sheep don't even try to run away even when the wolf if trying to put his dentures back in.

SFvet
August 7, 2008, 11:45 PM
Wow! "Could ya'll just please stay down while I put my POS back together? Thanks" LOL Seriously whats wrong with todays society?

TallPine
August 7, 2008, 11:58 PM
According to the FBI, the robber kept yelling at everyone to stay down as he picked the pieces off the ground and put the gun back together again.


That's your cue to pick up a chair and bust it across the would-be robber's head :rolleyes:

Drgong
August 7, 2008, 11:59 PM
or at least grab a piece or two of the gun and start running if he big...

Treo
August 8, 2008, 12:08 AM
My vote is Llama ( cause I've actually had one do that to me)

yesit'sloaded
August 8, 2008, 12:18 AM
Let's look at the lineup of suspects.
Bryco
http://bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/images/arms/bryco.jpg
Davis
http://www.davesguns.com/serverpics/UsedPage/DavisP380AMP24-01.jpg
Jennings
http://www.schochsgunsandpaintball.com/image/5289062.380_scaled_213x160.JPG
Lorcin
http://bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/images/arms/lorcin.jpg

Doggy Daddy
August 8, 2008, 12:23 AM
"No, no, no! I said you should use frangible AMMO, you idiot!"

Zwetschgen
August 8, 2008, 05:19 AM
If you're going to rob a bank why not steal a better weapon...

ar10
August 8, 2008, 07:58 AM
I live fairly close to the First Merit, however I'm not a customer. I've been in it a few times in the past, after it first opened and was armed each time, I didn't see any GB signs on the doors.
The robbery occurred at 3:20pm. The bank had a single male employee and the rest were female tellers. The robber weighed about 180lbs. When he jumped over the counter he made one female get up and told her to empty all the cash drawers into his bags. He got impatient with her and emptied the drawers himself. At he jumped back over the counter the gun fell and "shattered". He did not pick it up and put it back together. He ran Eastbound into a wooded area behind the parking lot. Police searching the wooded area found 2 $5.00 bills. The police chopper could not locate him even though the were there within a few minutes.

Source: http://www.columbuspolice.org/Reports/ReportGrid.aspx?loc=pct17

On listed date and time reporting business states that a m/b approximately 6'2" 180lbs wearing all black,a red mask and red work gloves came into listed business and demanded everyone to get down on the floor. Suspect jumped over the counter and held witness number one at gun point demanding that she open all the drawers behind the counter and to put as much money as she could in the bags. Suspect got into a hurry and ended up doing it himself and jumped back over the counter and told everyone in the bank to "have a good day." At that time he dropped what appeared to be a black semi-automatic hand gun on the floor as it broke into small peices. Suspect left the bank on foot and headed into the wooded area on the east side of the bank. Responding officers were able to obtain two five dollar bills in that area that the suspect m ayhave dropped as he ran. There were a total of five witnesses and no one was injured.

Phil DeGraves
August 8, 2008, 08:36 AM
It appears that the sheep don't even try to run away even when the wolf if trying to put his dentures back in.


That's beautiful!

pappy
August 8, 2008, 10:50 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like more and more people just stand around and do nothing while bad things happen instead of helping? :banghead:

Kansas Bound
August 8, 2008, 10:57 AM
I second that it was made from Legos.

BruceRDucer
August 8, 2008, 11:21 AM
Remember! Rubber-Band Guns don't fall apart!:neener:

btg3
August 8, 2008, 06:09 PM
ar10, THANK YOU for some pertinent facts:

1. The robber was 6'-2" and 180 lbs.
2. The bank had a single male employee and the rest were female tellers
3. Upon entering with a gun, he demanded everyone get on the floor.
4. When his gun went to pieces, he left.

So....
Even if could see the broken gun (behind the counter ???) and react before he left, I'm not going to jump somebody bigger (and probably quite younger) than me.

Also, if I had a gun, unless the BG clearly shows that he intends to seriously harm someone, I'm happy to let him leave with the money rather than have a gun fight in bank with folks at risk. Banks likely feel the same way and may be motive for some of them posting "No CC" signs.

Your thoughts?

Rustynuts
August 8, 2008, 07:41 PM
I'd die laughing rather than give him any money. Is it a good shoot when the bad guy's gun is on the floor in pieces?

I say he could have had a backup or a shank, fire away!

TEDDY
August 8, 2008, 08:25 PM
most banks have employe policy dont fight back let him take the money the insurance will pay.
while I realize most of you have a poor opinion of inexpensive gun most do work.I have had many of them.they are not made to fire 1000s of rds they are made to function for long enuf to do the job.many of them do.jennings used to be a police backup gun.

never_retreat
August 9, 2008, 10:20 AM
Must have been a glock.:evil:

Was it even a real gun or a homemade prop?

Old Grump
August 9, 2008, 12:30 PM
Sheep=good people but need leadership

Dogs=good people, are leaders, protect sheep

wolves=bad people, prey on sheep

This bank had one wolf, a herd of sheep and not a single dog, sad.

btg3
August 9, 2008, 09:01 PM
How about this opinion...
I can't help but believe that any time something like this ends with no shots fire would be a good thing.

howards
August 10, 2008, 05:47 AM
Had a Colt 70 se. 45 do that to me one time.

tinygnat219
August 10, 2008, 08:21 AM
Yesit'sloaded,

Want to start a pool as to what it was? I'm going with a Davis, Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, or Lindsey.

Ah, c'mon. You know that ain't fair with guns designed to biodegrade when moisture is applied to 'em. :neener:

Eric F
August 10, 2008, 08:31 AM
Nobody in the bank was carrying. What a perfect time to take action,

What does carrying have to do with anything here? You would be at fault if you pulled a gun in this case. No ones life was in danger or even threatened as the gun had fallen apart.:neener:

plexreticle
August 10, 2008, 08:39 AM
Unless the guy starts herding people to the back or I get the idea he doesn't want to leave I'm not going to shoot some idiot over the bank's money.

I figured there would be some kind of GPS tracer along with the die pack.

Treo
August 10, 2008, 09:21 AM
Dogs=good people, are leaders, protect sheep

Same quote somewhat more accurately rendered

Dogs = incredibly dumb & will lick the hand of a tyrant just as fast as that of a good man. Hitler's dogs loved him.

I'd much rather be a wolf than a dog.

plexreticle
August 10, 2008, 09:23 AM
Hitler had more human followers than dog followers.

silentpoet
August 10, 2008, 10:13 AM
If it was posted he must not have read the sign.

lookn4varmints
August 11, 2008, 04:56 AM
Nobody in the bank was carrying. What a perfect time to take action,

What does carrying have to do with anything here? You would be at fault if you pulled a gun in this case. No ones life was in danger or even threatened as the gun had fallen apart.

I'll respectfully disagree. The news article states, "According to the FBI, the robber kept yelling at everyone to stay down as he picked the pieces off the ground and put the gun back together again."

If I'm there and armed, I'm darn sure NOT going to stay face down on the floor and wait for him to put the gun back together again!!! Are we supposed to assume the impact with the floor rendered the gun permanently inoperable? We aren't required to know if a BG's gun is functional or not, and I'm still wondering if one of the pieces was just the magazine falling out or getting separated when he dropped it. I'm not saying I'd shoot in this case either. Who knows without playing Monday morning QB, but I'm reasonably sure you could draw down on him to prevent reassembly without adverse legal ramifications. If not, I'd take my chances with a jury in that case.

Old Grump
August 11, 2008, 09:26 PM
Treo: Wolf sounds more romantic in an exciting sort of way but by definition is the predator. Please tell me you aren't planning on joining the bank robber as a predator of the people, (sheep).

jackstinson
August 12, 2008, 07:25 AM
There are a couple of interesting things about this;
1. I saw several clips on the local news (I live in the area) of the FBI agent at the scene. He reported that the gun dropped, "came apart", and the guy put it back together. He then went on to explain that this could mean the magazine simply came out when the gun hit the floor and the robber reinserted it. He said no one was certain at that point what had happened. I think the police report only reported what witnesses said. Such witnesses are usually like three blind men describing an elephant from different ends of the pachyderm. Most non-gun folk might see a mag come out and think "the gun shattered into pieces". The newspaper and news channels had a field day.
2. The Columbus PD believes the same guy robbed another bank the next day. The video of that robbery shows a he has large satin finish silver semi-automatic handgun. While on typical security camera footage, the gun does not look to be a Bryco/Jennings, Lorcin, Davis, Cobra, or Hi-Point. It is the size of a Bryco/Jennings M48 or M49, but not quite the right shape. Looked more along the S&W 59xx/69xx series to me.

Calling a few local bank patrons "sheep" simply because they decided to let an armed robber (no one knows if he only had one gun) leave with the bank's insured and dye-packed money, is unfair. I'm sure all the tactical ninjas would've instantly jumped on the guy.....NOT.

Eric F
August 12, 2008, 07:39 AM
lookn4varmints I'll respectfully disagree.

Um dude it was a joke take it easy

Treo
August 12, 2008, 11:34 AM
Please tell me you aren't planning on joining the bank robber as a predator of the people, (sheep).

Well, if gas prices keep.......

Seriously, no I obviously have no intention of becoming a criminal.
But by the same token I did not get my CHP to be a "guardian of the people". I still have the letter that came W/ my CHP it says " This permit is extended to you in order that you may defend your self and your family." doesn't say anything about apprehending criminals.

The whole "sheep dog" mind set scares me it reminds me of groups like the "Guardian Angels" or more accurately a group here in Co Springs called "the Citizen's C.B. Patrol" . They drive around all night in their beater cars wearing black BDUs being the "eyes & ears" of the police.

Wolves are predators (necesarry predators BTW)

Dogs will lick any hand that feeds them, good or bad

I think I'll just be what I am a Free Man.

guitarhero323
August 12, 2008, 01:08 PM
i love the mystery men reference thats a funny movie

lookn4varmints
August 12, 2008, 01:08 PM
Um dude it was a joke take it easy

Sorry, I see that now. I have a habit of overlooking the emoticons.

Pigspitter
August 12, 2008, 08:22 PM
Does anybody else think that maybe Jackie Chan ran through faster than anybody could see and took it apart?

TeamPrecisionIT
August 12, 2008, 08:38 PM
Nah, it was Jack Bauer.

Old Grump
August 13, 2008, 01:34 PM
He runs free and doesn't care about dogs or sheep but he secretly does good deeds because he believes he is his brothers keeper. He does it anonymously because he wants everybody to believe he is hard as nails and cares not for others.

moga
August 13, 2008, 02:04 PM
A new grocery chain opened recently near me. Upon my first visit I noticed they have an armed "guard" in the store. He is armed but condition white all the way. More concerned with chatting up the cashiers and turning his back to the flow of foot traffic than anything else. I couldn't tell what he was carrying because I didn't recognize the frame profile or the grip design but figured it had to be a .380 due to the size of the magazine base. After reading this thread, I now know he carries the Jennings pistol that is on page 1. ROFL. I knew it was probably a POS gun just by the way he acted, mall ninja-ish.

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