Crossbreed Supertuck...HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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OleCodger
August 9, 2008, 01:32 PM
:cuss:I am 7 decades of age and continue to love guns in general and to CCW. Recently purchased a Crossbreed Supertuck and love it once I get it mounted in the correct position! I swore off cussin' over three months ago. However, since receiving the new Supertuck, I not only have began cussin' all over again but have actually invented some 5 and 6 letter words that previously didn't exist. My biggest problem is that by the time I get it positioned correctly and tighten my belt, it's time to remove it for bed time. Has anyone discovered a step by step procedure for installing the Supertuck in less than three hours??!! If so, I'd greatly appreciate your sharing with me. My marriage is at risk since the little lady says I no longer spend any time with her.:evil:

PS.......Carrying Kahr CW9

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blackcash88
August 10, 2008, 03:24 PM
Send it back. My Supertuck had the kydex body crack at the edges in less than a month. Complete crap. I don't use it, but in the short time I did, I found it most helpful to thread the belt and put the holster (without the gun in it) on the belt/pants BEFORE putting the pants on.

Dave/hoff
August 11, 2008, 10:21 PM
I have no advice to offer but I'll sure be interested in the answers you get.

I am currently carrying a CW9 in a cheap nylon "tuckable IWB" holster and have not found it to be satisfactory at all...have been considering the crossbreed.

Also, I've found that in carryin this way that the mag release is often inadvertently pressed (maybe as I cinch up my belt?) Have you had this issue?

blackcash88
August 12, 2008, 06:44 AM
Dave/hoff, you would be well advised to stay far, far away from ANY thing Crossbreed. Read my previous post.

Buy from these guys. Great people with great service and products!!! They'll make whatever you want in a holster, too.

http://www.comp-tac.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=95

OleCodger
August 12, 2008, 06:45 AM
Dave, as far as comfort, concealability and quality of workmanship is concerned, IMO, I don't think that you can beat the CB Supertuck. I would highly recommend it. My problem is the time that is required in getting it on my belt properly and then rearranging my shirt tail so that everything looks normal. I'm sure as time goes on it will all become second nature. I tended to stretch the truth a mite in my original post but it takes me at least ten minutes to get everything hitched up and tucked in. Once that is done, it's a very comfortable holster, particularly after doing some fine tuning on positioning using the predrilled mounting holes.

I've never used a soft holster with the CW9 so haven't experienced the magazine releasing problem that you described. My favorite holster is the Mitch Rosen belt slide but when it's summertime in Arkansas it's a little more difficult to conceal with my present wardrobe......

blackcash88
August 12, 2008, 06:58 AM
I don't think that you can beat the CB Supertuck. I would highly recommend it.

A fool and his money are soon parted... Jes sayin'...

Fozzy_Bear
August 12, 2008, 10:26 AM
1) put on your pants and shirt (tucked in) - leave your pants unbuttoned

2) put on your belt and fasten the buckle 2 notches loose

3) put the supertuck on with the gun already in it. (inside the pants, but over top of the shirt)

4) undo your belt and pull the pants/belt/holster away from your body/shirt

5)while holding your pants up with your off hand (slightly in front of the rig if your not flexible enough), use your gun-hand to gently pull your shirt away from your body and slide it between the body of the holster and the shafts of the belt clips. Slide it down as far as it will go; you'll adjust it in a minute. - don't be afraid to use your thumb to pull the top of the holster to make a bigger gap between the holster and straps so you can use your fingers to slide the shirt into the gap if you need to.

6)pull your pants back next to you and retuck the rest of your shirt as necessary.

7) fasten and tighten your pants/belt.

8) grab your shirt (or pinch it being sure NOT to get your undershirt, if you've got one) right above your belt and untuck about 3/4 of an inch so that it isn't held tightly against your body. - more than 3/4 if you have a long enough shirt, it will help prevent the handle from printing.

9)- Move your hands around your body and make the amount of your shirt you've "bloused" even.

Done.

10- OPTIONAL ) clip a cell phone right in front of the holster so that even IF somebody is observant enough to notice a bulge in your shirt, they won't think anything of it.

Water-Man
August 12, 2008, 11:02 AM
I had the same problem. I gave-up and bought a $ 30.00 IWB from Don Hume H715-M S.O.O.T. No more problems!

moga
August 12, 2008, 11:04 AM
I pull my trousers up to my waist and then thread my gun belt without buttoning or zipping up pants. Then I hook the attach points of the empty holster over the belt, slip it into place, then fasten my trousers and draw belt 3/4 of the way. Put the gun on, do a final adjust, and then tighten it all the way down.

Pat Cannon
August 12, 2008, 11:19 AM
Don't have a Crossbreed but I used to have a Comp-Tac CTAC, which I believe works about the same, in fact I think it uses the same belt clips. I too found the only problem with it to be the time it took to get it 'installed'.

Fozzy's advice sounds pretty good.

I advise actually timing the process with your watch; that's what I did. I don't remember now how long it took me -- I just found that once I knew that it was actually, say, three and a half minutes, it didn't bother me so much. Just the other day I found that it takes me 30 seconds to change pants, but about three minutes to transfer all the crap I carry around, including an IWB holster.

I've also found that the tucked shirt mode is more trouble than I usually want to bother with, so I've been getting more Hawaiian-style shirts or wearing an open shirt over a T-shirt (I always figure Ray Romano on Everybody Loves Raymond is carrying). Your draw is going to be a good second or two faster, too. Which reminds me: have you tried drawing the tucked-in gun while belted in in your car? I did. It can be done, but it's a struggle!

Having said all that, I still carry in a tuckable holster. When you need to be dressed up, it's great. I was at a memorial service this last Sunday and one of the first people I saw was an ex-girlfriend, who said I looked nice, but nothing about what I might be carrying -- and she was observant enough to point out that my fly was open. Oops.

So for those occasions, a tuckable can't be beat... except maybe by a pocket holster. But that's a whole 'nother issue.

Oh, and Fozzy's advice about the cell phone is excellent too, I've found, especially with the lump of a revolver cylinder.

Fozzy_Bear
August 12, 2008, 01:20 PM
One more thing...

You'll notice a thin washer between the strap and the body of the holster. If you're still having issues getting the shirt tucked, add a few washers (if you buy replacement clips from comp-tac, they come with 1/4 inch rubber spacers that are much better).


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OleCodger
August 14, 2008, 09:12 AM
Thanks fellas for your input. You've been a GREAT help. I'm still having a problem or two but I'm sure after some practice, I'll get it all together. This is a fantastic website with some great people on it......Thanks again for your input........

Lucky Strike
August 14, 2008, 09:50 PM
I love my crossbreed supertuck but i never carry with the outer shirt tucked in. Just doesn't conceal to my comfort level. It is super comfortable sitting or standing though so i don't mind. So my wardrobe is growing like Pat Cannon's must be.

I 've got a lot of stuff like this in my closet now

http://images.buzzillions.com/images_products/02/01/mens_ben_sherman_slim_fit_button_up_shirt_reviews_938130_300.jpg



As far as getting in the thing on. I put on my pants and zip them up halfway and then put the holster on. Once the thing is in place i zip up all the way and button my jeans and then put on my belt.

FranklyTodd
August 19, 2008, 10:21 PM
Anyone have a problem with the Crossbreed Supertuck squeaking like crazy? Every time I move I sound like an old Clint Eastwood movie - the retired gunfighter strapping on his shootin' irons. Squeeeaaak.

It's pretty new, so maybe it will break in, but if it stays this noisy, I will have to exercise the 2-week trial option and send it back. I've been wearing it 12 hours a day (even empty if I have to) but only for 2 days so far.

I e-mailed and they said to put some conditioner on it, which I did tonight. We'll see if it's better tomorrow...

FT

OleCodger
August 19, 2008, 11:17 PM
Hey FranklyTodd, mine (CW9 model) also sounded like an axle that needed to be greased. However when I finally found my sweet spot for the "cant", about 95% of the squeaking stopped. In my case, the lack of squeaking seemed in direct proportion to the sweet spot (front belt clip mounted in the top hole, rear clip mounted in the bottom hole). I've been afraid to put any type of leather balm on it for fear of unwanted stretching. Let us know how it goes......

blackcash88
August 20, 2008, 07:05 AM
Anyone have a problem with the Crossbreed Supertuck

Yes, and more than just the holster. The company, owner, etc. :rolleyes:

Fozzy_Bear
August 20, 2008, 09:30 AM
Yeah, you should probably avoid leather conditioner... If floppy leather is what you wanted, the manufacturers would save a lot of money and make the holsters out of thinner stock...

That said;
I noticed mine was a bit more squeaky than most too.

I removed the clips and poured a bit of candle wax on the area of leather where the Kydex clips rubbed against it. While it was still liquid, I used a Qtip to spread it thin and then let it cool. Then I used the candle to heat the leather gently until the wax melted and was absorbed into the leather. (heat it from the side with the wax, not through the leather. It will suck into the leather even when it is hanging upside-down over the flame.) Just remember to go slow by keeping it as far away from the flame as you can and still get it to melt.

It causes an un-sightly stain (on an IWB; who cares?) , but stopped the squeaks immediately. And it does not soften the leather at all. (makes it a bit stiffer, actually. I recommend NOT doing this until your rig is broken-in and contoured to your body the way you want it)

I later changed the adjustment setting and got the squeak again, because the strap was rubbing a spot with no wax... so I had to hit the new spot, but it only takes 5 minutes.

Pat Cannon
August 20, 2008, 09:40 AM
Hmm, the candle wax idea makes me think Sno-Seal (for boots) would work.

Fozzy_Bear
August 20, 2008, 09:42 AM
It might... but does it mention "conditioning" or softening the leather?

I was so impressed with how easy waxing was, I went back and did the whole back side. - I had a problem with sweating through the leather of holsters I wear and getting warm salt-water held up against my pistol (bad thing).

I had tried a few things, and spoken with some manufacturers, and High Noon Holsters even send me a bottle of their custom made water sealer (for my HighNoon-holster, obviously not for the supertuck) ... but still I had water penetration issues.

After I waxed the back, no moisture whatsoever gets through.

blackcash88
August 20, 2008, 12:31 PM
That's why all my leather holsters are made from horse hide. Much tougher than cow leather and moisture will NOT get through it.

SeanMTX
August 20, 2008, 01:50 PM
I've had my Supertuck for about 2 months now. I liken it to a good pair of cowboy boots....takes a little bit to get worn in, but once it is, it's comfy!

No squeaks at all for me...at least once it got fully broken in, which took about 3-4 weeks.


Haven't added any candle wax or changed screw locations at all.

blackcash88
August 20, 2008, 01:53 PM
Well, that's ONE thing my Supertuck didn't have a problem with. :rolleyes:

OleCodger
August 20, 2008, 08:46 PM
Howabout placing a strip of wax paper between the clips and leather for a day or two?

Cyklopz
September 9, 2008, 12:48 PM
Don't forget that a good belt can help with a lot of issues when carrying.

Good luck.

Cy

OleCodger
September 21, 2008, 05:57 PM
Cy, that's probably part of my problem. I have a Wilderness web belt on order. I understand that they're supposed to be the "cat's meow". I'm beginning to feel there is no cure for gunitis. I have decided that buying more pistols, rifles, holsters, ammo, mags, belts, etc. sure doesn't help the fever to come down to normal. Just purchased a new gun safe and have a High Standard pistol in the lay-a-way. I'm retired living comfortably on that check but having to work two jobs to support my second love! Presently working on a project that I feel will make me millions though. Trying to develop a men's aftershave that has the aroma of gun oil and burned gun powder!!!!

NG VI
September 22, 2008, 09:32 AM
Trying to develop a men's aftershave that has the aroma of gun oil and burned gun powder!!!!


You mean Hoppes No. 9?

OleCodger
September 22, 2008, 10:07 PM
Roger on the Hoppe's No. 9!!!!!!

NG VI
September 23, 2008, 01:34 PM
Sometime recently a guy posted that he got a date because he had residue and Hoppes on him when he went to class after shooting and cleaning, so I think that's the ticket!

OleCodger
September 23, 2008, 06:02 PM
That sorta goes hand in hand with the old want ad joke:

Wanted: Looking for an attractive lady friend with a great personality, is a good cook, loves the great outdoors and also loves guns. Please send picture of guns!!

I've done a great job of getting us off of the original subject haven't I??! That's one of the benefits of being 70 I guess!

mr.72
September 24, 2008, 10:45 AM
I recently got a Crossbreed and share your pain with putting it on and taking it off. For me the trick is to clip it onto the waistband with no gun in it before putting on the belt. But it is still much of a pain.

I got a FIST K3 for my new pistol and it is night and day easier to put on and off. However the Crossbreed is much more stable and comfortable while you wear it. I think those wide-spaced offset clips make for a very stable holster but they are also instrumental in making it hard to get on and off.

OleCodger
September 24, 2008, 09:30 PM
I agree with you on the stability and comfort. I've come a long way since I first posted this thread. The final problem that I had to overcome was getting the shirt tucked in just right. I have found that if I line up the side seam of the shirt about where it should fall and then tuck the seam in first and then either side of the seam, it takes less effort to finish the job. Otherwise I'm pulling and tugging trying to get rid of the "ripple" effect of an improperly tucked shirt.

Carry safe and happy shooting!

skinewmexico
September 25, 2008, 12:25 PM
I don't consider mine a problem, but I don't tuck a shirt in often. I just hang it on my pants and belt before I put my pants on. Then if I need to tuck it in, I latch my belt really loosely, then tilt the gun back to make a gap for my shirt.

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