Anti-Gun Bigotry Lives in Frederick Co. VA Schools


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Partisan Ranger
September 1, 2003, 02:06 PM
My son's school in Winchester VA had 'Hat Day' on Friday. He came home after school and mentioned that the teacher had said the day before, "No gun or NRA hats allowed. "

He couldn't understand it. "There's nothing bad about the NRA," he said to me. Course not, I replied. There are just some people who think because a few people do bad things with guns that all guns and people who use them are bad. Ignore them.

I'm pretty steamed that they're feeding this anti-gun BS to my son. Maybe I'll write Frederick Co. Schools a letter about it. Home-school isn't an option for us; my wife likes to work, and besides, the government confiscates 30%+ of our income, so we need my wife's job to pay the bills.

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Guntalk
September 1, 2003, 02:28 PM
CALL, don't write.

Ask if it's okay for your son to wear a hat from Handgun Control, Inc.

Then say that you would rather have your son wear a hat from a real firearms safety group -- the NRA.

Get names. Get a specific reason for the anti-NRA edict.

Ask what official school policy forbids the NRA hat. If there is no policy, they can't stop it.

However, you don't want to put your son in the middle of a mess, either.

Still, I would ge the teacher and principal on record, with their reasons, for preventing wearing a hat from the only organiation which has taught firearms safety to millions of people.

nvcdl
September 1, 2003, 03:04 PM
Please send details to leadership@vcdl.org

This sound like a good item for our weekly alert.

Kharn
September 1, 2003, 03:14 PM
Too bad you didnt have a hat from JPFO that you could lend him. :D The liberals would have been doing mental gymnastics until the end of time trying to explain their opposition to that one.

Kharn

BowStreetRunner
September 1, 2003, 03:46 PM
i second that one

"but miss, this organization is dedicated to making sure the holocaust never happens again, is that so bad?"

BSR

Tempest
September 1, 2003, 05:28 PM
Ranger, what school does your son attend? Remember Winchester and Frederick County have different school systems and school boards. Is he at Red Bud Run? I seem to remember you live near there. If so, call Stuart Wolk - the chairman of the school board and raise holy hell!

I haven't had a problem with my kids' schools and 2A issues in Frederick county schools, and my 14 year old has appeared in an NRA publication and brought it to school for show and tell.

Lemme know, OK?

fmjcafe
September 1, 2003, 05:56 PM
I`d show up at the school in person, wearing an NRA hat and ask to speak to the principal.
I routinely wear mine to school functions such as parent- teacher meetings, school concerts, etc. I think it sends the message that you will be handling your childs education where guns and second amendment issues are concerned.

Partisan Ranger
September 1, 2003, 08:22 PM
My son attends Senseny Road Elementary; we're about 1/2 way between Red Bud and Senseny. I've been impressed overall with the quality of education out here, but this is a big downer for me. I know for many people it might seem I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but I would greatly prefer if schools would focus on teaching reading, writing, math, and history and leave the values to me. I do intend to pursue this as far as I can.

Tempest
September 1, 2003, 08:27 PM
Ah. That's actually surprising. Lemme know if you need backup. I know Stuart pretty well as well as Dr. Dean.

Standing Wolf
September 1, 2003, 09:01 PM
Maybe I'll write Frederick Co. Schools a letter about it.

If someone had treated a child of mine that way, I'd have my lawyer write a letter to inform the school board of a law suit. Your son's First Amendment civil rights were violated.

BluesBear
September 2, 2003, 02:07 AM
AMEN! Standing Wolf

MMcCall
September 2, 2003, 02:21 AM
If someone had treated a child of mine that way, I'd have my lawyer write a letter to inform the school board of a law suit. Your son's First Amendment civil rights were violated.

And you'd lose. There is a LONG history of case law regarding first amendment rights, or lack thereof, in school. In short, schools can curtail clothing styles or messages if they so choose.

I'm not saying it's right, but there's plenty of precendent for it, specifically Kuhlmeier v. Hazlewood, 1988.

Majic
September 2, 2003, 12:43 PM
When my son was in the 6th grade his class was given projects on an open topic format. Since he was shooting and learning reloading with me he wanted to do a report with visuals on interior ballistics. I cut several different styles of bullets and cases in half, collected a few spent primers, and placed some black peper in a small plastic bag. He attached this collection on a poster board along with his drawings simulating the construction and firing of a cartridge. The teacher stopped him before he could really start his report, even though he told her the powder was just peper and nothing was dangerous, then gave him an "F" for his project. He of course came home upset and told me of the incidence. The next day I went with him to school carrying the project and talked with the asst. principal as he went to class. After a lengthy dissussion the teacher in question and my son were requested to come to the office. The teacher was asked if she originally imposed any restrictions on the projects of which she replied no. The principal herself who had joined the meeting then reviewed my son's project and ordered the teacher to change his grade to an "A" based on the work and research he had did.
So yes sometimes when a parent gets involved, questionable ethics by teachers/administrators can be corrected.

Henry Bowman
September 2, 2003, 01:04 PM
Good work, Majic! If Standing Wolf were here he'd say something about those anti-Second Amendment bigots . :D

Partisan Ranger
September 2, 2003, 01:35 PM
Lemme see if I can help you with an SW imitation:


Anti-2nd Amendment bigots are moral and intellectual parasites, and closet anti-1st Amendment bigots into the bargain.

David Park
September 2, 2003, 07:53 PM
This is not the first time something like this has happened in VA:

http://www.nraila.org/NewsCenter.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=1971
http://george.loper.org/~george/trends/2003/Jul/974.html

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