Coverage of Olympic Shooting Events


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psyopspec
August 9, 2008, 08:33 PM
I'm probably not the only one that's been disappointed by the lack of television coverage of Olympic competitive shooting. However, I was pleased to find this little trove of videos on nbc.com. Athlete profiles, coverage, competition results - all dedicated to the shooting sports. Enjoy!

http://www.nbcolympics.com/shooting/index.html (http://www.nbcolympics.com/shooting/index.html)

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kentucky_Dave
August 9, 2008, 10:14 PM
Thanks For The Link

bogie
August 9, 2008, 10:36 PM
Opportunity: Call the network AND your local stations, and let them know that you want to see more.

Heck, call the newspapers, and ask them why the TV folks aren't showing it... Couldn't be any sort of rivalry going on there, could there?

geim druth
August 9, 2008, 10:37 PM
MSNBC does coverage of more sports than are shown on NBC, I'm hoping to catch some shooting on that channel.

I noticed that at least 4 nations choose shooters as their flag-bearers for the opening ceremonies.

Smokey Joe
August 9, 2008, 11:15 PM
I understand that Baron Coubertin, the originator of the modern Olympics, was himself a pistol competitor.

(Can't find any documentation of that, though.)

Owen Sparks
August 10, 2008, 12:24 AM
It is all about gymnastics. Get used to it.

.38 Special
August 10, 2008, 01:09 AM
It looks as though the USA network is carrying some shooting events.

Solo Flyer
August 10, 2008, 01:38 AM
I understand that Baron Coubertin, the originator of the modern Olympics, was himself a pistol competitor.

Great column here about the Baron and then Lt. George Patton ,a overlooked hero in the first Pentathlon in 1912.

http://www.realclearsports.com/articles/2008/07/modern_pentathlon_a_sport_for.html

bogie
August 10, 2008, 02:23 AM
Google Patton and Bonus Army...

Mr White
August 10, 2008, 10:13 AM
I know we all love guns, but have you ever sat and watched a shooting event? The shooting sports, other than possibly some shotgun events, are pretty boring to watch. Shooting is definitely better as a participant sport.

plexreticle
August 10, 2008, 10:18 AM
Watching people shoot is right up there with watching curling and golf.

If you have trouble sleeping it will cure it.

VARifleman
August 10, 2008, 12:38 PM
I know we all love guns, but have you ever sat and watched a shooting event? The shooting sports, other than possibly some shotgun events, are pretty boring to watch. Shooting is definitely better as a participant sport.
Not with the advent of electronic scoring. It is quite exciting to see the faces of the athletes in finals as they go up and down with each tenth of a point difference.

cpttango30
August 10, 2008, 12:54 PM
You can go to http://www.msnbc.com/ and click on Olympics on the left hand side then look down the left hand side of teh screen for shooting if it has a little red flag with LIVE in it then you can watch live video. I watched the live Men's trap finals last night at 3am.

Vibe
August 10, 2008, 01:03 PM
Doesn't look like the USA is close to winning any medals in the sport though. The anti-gun sentiment showing through?

bobbarker
August 10, 2008, 01:09 PM
I don't really think Anti-Gun has anything to do with the event. Doesn't matter if you only have 10 people in the US who love shooting, and are good at it. If they're in the olympics, then they're the ones competing, ya know? Unless some anti's wormed their way in, in a diabolical plot to throw the event, and show that shooting isn't as great as we all think. ;) No, I just think that we're not doing so hot. Which is kind of sad, if you think about it. Some of the best snipers in the world are on the US Military Competitive Shooting Team, but, try getting those guys time away from work to be in the olympics. It used to happen, but, no more.

VARifleman
August 10, 2008, 01:46 PM
Doesn't look like the USA is close to winning any medals in the sport though. The anti-gun sentiment showing through?
HAHA...yeah right...wait till Matt Emmons and Kim Rhode come up to bat.

Vibe
August 10, 2008, 01:57 PM
I don't really think Anti-Gun has anything to do with the event. Doesn't matter if you only have 10 people in the US who love shooting, and are good at it. If they're in the olympics, then they're the ones competing, ya know?
Well that is sort of the point as to WHY we would "only have 10 people" who love shooting and are good at it. Funny how you try to disagree with the point and support it at the same time.

AndyC
August 10, 2008, 02:05 PM
Funny, I had the same conversation with my wife 2 days ago, and I pointed out that shooting is hardly a spectator-sport. Perhaps they should make sudden death, man vs man, Steel Challenge an Olympic sport ;)

VARifleman
August 10, 2008, 03:19 PM
Well that is sort of the point as to WHY we would "only have 10 people" who love shooting and are good at it. Funny how you try to disagree with the point and support it at the same time.
There can only be 2 spots per country per event for the shooting sports. There are 28 possible spots per country, the USA got 24. Also, the competition to get on that team is close and difficult. So I don't know where the heck you get the idea that there are very few top quality USA shooters, or that we got very few spots, or that we don't stand a chance at getting medals. Jamie Beyerle got 4th place in Women's Air, following bronze by 1.1 points. Not a poor performance by any standards.

Knotthead
August 10, 2008, 03:29 PM
MSNBC does coverage of more sports than are shown on NBC...

Coverage is also being provided at times on CNBC,the USA network, and Oxygen. At this moment, shooting is listed on the segment being shown on MSNBC.

CBS220
August 10, 2008, 03:38 PM
Watching people shoot is right up there with watching curling and golf.

If you have trouble sleeping it will cure it.

Definitely, especially since it seems most olympic shooting is of the airgun pistol on a stationary target or trap type... that is to say, even less enjoyable than curling and golf to watch.

Now, watching Miculek shoot a round... that's pretty entertaining! There's lots of movement and metal falling.

This, not so much.

Buck Nekkid
August 10, 2008, 03:51 PM
We have some of world's best shooters! Our men's international trap team (mostly made up of members of the Army Marksmanship Unit) is favored.

International Olympic Shooting is a whole other world. Olympic Trap, Olympic Skeet, air rifle and pistol and small bore rifle and pistol are so hard that I would challenge anyone to even attempt to compete.

The air rifle target, for example, is the size of a Bayer Asprin! To get a score of 10 on it you need to be able to hit a center the size of a period (.)!

General Geoff
August 10, 2008, 04:09 PM
Olympic shooting events tend to favour pure accuracy over practicality. Nothing wrong with that, just pointing that out..

misANTHrope
August 10, 2008, 04:11 PM
So what we really need is to get practical shooting on as an Olympic sport, huh?

:D

General Geoff
August 10, 2008, 04:12 PM
I'd be in favour of that.


Question then would be, would we have to disallow all active-duty military and law enforcement persons from participating, since you could successfully argue that they're professionals in that sport?

dmickey
August 10, 2008, 05:01 PM
The basketball dream team is made up of professional players! I don't know if that restriction is worth much these days! By the way, does anyone remember that the late actor Robert Stack was an olympic shotgunner?

thunderstorm
August 10, 2008, 05:18 PM
So what we really need is to get practical shooting on as an Olympic sport, huh?

That would be very cool!

green country shooter
August 10, 2008, 05:24 PM
http://www.nbcolympics.com/shooting/resultsandschedules/day=2/index.html

This link shows which shooting events are on which days. By clicking on the day you can see the events for that day.

I think China is 13 hours later in time than the central time zone in the U.S.

You may have to check USA channel, NBC, CNBC, and MSNBC to see which one has it. I get a cable channel called UDT or something like that that is high definition that seems to carry the same sports as MSNBC, but in high definition.

I just watched the men's trap final. Pretty spectator friendly. They use some sort of little dye bag on the clay pigeon to make them more visible when they break.

The commentators were in NY, and there was a woman who knew what she was talking about, but the man commentator seemed totally ignorant, starting to call the firearm a rifle at one point.

So you can find the shooting sports, but it may take a little effort. If you have a good online connection and up to date browser you can watch more on line. My browser is too old for the olympic video.

The Lone Haranguer
August 10, 2008, 06:21 PM
One must have either a very keen interest in the event, or be a participant in it oneself, to enjoy it. Frankly, for most people it would be a colossal bore to watch. As well, the shooter firing and the subsequent little tiny hole appearing in the paper target would be difficult to film.

Smokey Joe
August 10, 2008, 06:29 PM
General Geoff--Olympic shooting events tend to favour pure accuracy over practicality.You appear to be saying that the sheer ability to hit what one is aiming at is impractical. I respectfully beg to disagree. I think that for example, Carlos Hathcock, Jerry Miculek, Daniel Boone, and Davy Crockett would likewise disagree.

"Practical" pistol seems to say that it's OK to be a little off, as long as you are shooting "minute of bad guy." No problem there, and in reality, a bad guy isn't going to score you up or down. Neither will a p. dog--it's either dead or down its hole.

Shooting at frying pans, just to hear the "klonk," well...

So, everything besides Practical Pistol is "Impractical Pistol???"

But if you're competing, there has to be a way to keep score--that's why we use paper targets with scoring rings.

Oh, and then there's Silhouette. My hat is off to the one who can consistently down the 8" tall rams, at 100 meters--from offhand, no sling. If that kind of skill isn't practical, what is??

Now, sheer, pure, accuracy--It's been said (although not by me) that Bullseye Pistol is real shooting, and everything else is just fooling around. Now as to rifles, there's benchrest, F-class, High Power, Smallbore Position Shooting--and we score 'em all on sheer, pure, accuracy, nothing more and nothing less. Try it--Being Good At It is REALLY tough. Believe me. BTDT. And for all my struggles, I'm only slightly good at it. But impractical???

General Geoff
August 10, 2008, 06:51 PM
Pure accuracy itself is not impractical, but often the setup, stance, and equipment used to attain it are. Once again this isn't necessarily a bad thing, pure accuracy is very difficult to obtain even with the right equipment. I'm just saying it'd be nice to see off-hand rifle shooting, things of that sort, along with the bench rest type events.

redneckdan
August 10, 2008, 08:30 PM
I think at one time the olympics featured across the course events.

hksw
August 10, 2008, 09:27 PM
Well that is sort of the point as to WHY we would "only have 10 people" who love shooting and are good at it.

Uh, have you ever tried out for the very few spots on the Olympic teams?

VARifleman
August 10, 2008, 11:06 PM
I think at one time the olympics featured across the course events.
There's still 3p smallbore, there used to be 3p 300m. And for those that think that sport is boring, go see a final that has electronic scoring. You don't understand how exciting it can be since you haven't experienced it.

cpttango30
August 10, 2008, 11:23 PM
It was rather exciting to watch the womens archery I did on the internet. Korea set a new world record and olympic record. I watched the mens trap final last night at 3 am on the internet and it was rather boring watching little orange target go poof every time. I will tell you what them targets are flat out smoking when they leave the thrower. Really how much fun is it to watch a bunch of guys shooting $10,000 shotguns in the rain.

Yah we might not be doing all that well in shooting but our lady sword fighters took G, S, B and boy that is fun to watch there. Fencing indv saber. yelling screaming and swords swinging all over.

VARifleman
August 11, 2008, 12:12 AM
Our big events haven't come up yet. Remember that before dismissing our Olympic shooting team.

Stephen Scherer and Jason Parker are up tomorrow in Air Rifle. They are amazing shooters and have a great chance of doing something impressive at the games.

Nate C.
August 11, 2008, 12:27 AM
It's past time to bring Cowboy Action Shooting to the Olympics.


Nah, forget it. It would never fly.

SpeedAKL
August 11, 2008, 01:33 AM
Practical long-range shooting such as an F-Class-style event would be awesome. So would a 3-gun event using the service rifles from various nations!

Too bad it will never happen....the whole "peace and love" vibe of the Olympics would get railed on by the UN and the lefties/anti's if they went and put those events in.

Arcturus
August 11, 2008, 10:02 AM
Corey Cogdell took Bronze, first medal for an American Woman shooter!

misANTHrope
August 11, 2008, 11:45 AM
I watched some of the trap shooting last night... those folks are scary fast!

:eek:

jason10mm
August 11, 2008, 12:19 PM
Stuff like the steel challenge would be nice. I think you have to have firmly fixed courses of fire for the Olympics. Plus there are lots of countries where "run and gun" type matches such as IDPA would be impractical due to general weapon restrictions. The US and a few other countries would be the only places participating.

Didn't they have steel as an exhibition event in 2004?

I think the olympic committee should construct a permanent base foe the summer and winter olympics. Then allow anyone from anywhere to compete. Make their country of origin secondary to getting the most skilled humans on the planet to compete.

Maybe even have it as an additional event from the regular olypmipics. Essentially recreate the original olympic events. Loincloths allowed though. Topless is ok :P

Smokey Joe
August 11, 2008, 01:17 PM
Jason 10 mm--I think the olympic committee should construct a permanent base foe the summer and winter olympics. Then allow anyone from anywhere to compete. Make their country of origin secondary to getting the most skilled humans on the planet to compete.That'd be AWESOME!! Really pure amateurism, really pure Sport! It's a feeling I've had for years, however (there is always that darn "however!") you know and I know, it ain't gonna happen.

It could be at some location(s) declared to be "international land," property of no particular country (like Antarctica is today) and to be used only for Sport. Be wonderful, wouldn't it. :) Not in your lifetime nor mine. :(

climbnjump
August 12, 2008, 01:19 PM
Glenn Eller took Gold in Double Trap.

Gentleman Ranker
August 12, 2008, 01:54 PM
During the 1980 Olympics in Moscow, there was a joke around that the Soviets were very worried about Chinese participation. Apparently the PRC had entered 250,000 people in the rifle event ... :)

It was kind of funny at the time.

regards,

GR

Justin
August 12, 2008, 02:45 PM
Well that is sort of the point as to WHY we would "only have 10 people" who love shooting and are good at it. Funny how you try to disagree with the point and support it at the same time.

Anti-gun sentiment has less to do with America's lack of performance in some of the shooting events than the the plethora of other shooting sports that are available to practically every American.

Put another way, many of America's best shooters would prefer to compete in other sports such as High Power or IPSC than the Olympic sports.

Frankly, I'd love to see them reinstate 300 meter rifle.

ColinthePilot
August 12, 2008, 03:06 PM
I know we all love guns, but have you ever sat and watched a shooting event? The shooting sports, other than possibly some shotgun events, are pretty boring to watch. Shooting is definitely better as a participant sport.

+1
I watched about 15 min of the mens trap competition and got bored. I'll watch women's beach volleyball and go to the range as soon as its over.

Wedge
August 12, 2008, 04:01 PM
Curling is WAY more exciting than watching shooting. (I must admit that we got CBC growing up so I watched a lot of hockey and curling...)

I've been known to watch bowling on ESPN.

I'll watch the masters every year.

But I only made it through 30 seconds of watching 10m air rifle then just cut ahead to see the final scores. I am glad it is an event and those guys are GOOD! But it makes no sense to air it when the other "action" sports are going on.

Drgong
August 12, 2008, 04:48 PM
Curling is actually quite cool! :)

the one shooting sport that is good for TV is the cross country shooting events. The advantage is also that they have targets that are easy to see if you hit or not.

Wedge
August 12, 2008, 05:52 PM
yes...I love to watch the Biathlon. That's a shooting sport you can watch. Nothing like combining a x-country skiing race and shooting.

jerkface11
August 12, 2008, 06:26 PM
Olympic 3 gun would be awesome!

Owens
August 12, 2008, 10:44 PM
One must have either a very keen interest in the event, or be a participant in it oneself, to enjoy it.

Same could be said for any of the other sports too.

A bit less beach ball and more shooting please.

Autolycus
August 12, 2008, 11:46 PM
I will take more beach volleyball.

jerkface11
August 13, 2008, 12:04 AM
Only if it's womens beach volleyball.

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