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August 9, 2008, 07:57 PM
Just for fun, I've been looking at what guns has James Bond used. Both in print and film. Although he's been loyal to his Walther PPK he once used a gun called an ASP. I found it really does exist and has lexan grips so you can see how many rounds remain in the magazine. Has anyone actually seen one? Or own one?

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denfoote
August 9, 2008, 08:15 PM
http://usera.imagecave.com/denfoote/WaltherP99.jpg

Walther P99

I'm wondering how long it will take for the Bond film makers to discover the PPS??? :evil:

Judicator
August 9, 2008, 08:34 PM
Personally, I can't wait for Quantum of Solace. Looks like he'll be using a H&K MP-5 in one scene. *drool* I'm not a huge Bond fan, but if memory serves, he typically carried small pistols like the Walther PPK.

jdh
August 9, 2008, 08:38 PM
I have seen an ASP, a chopped and channeled S&W 39. If you read the books you will find that Bond used a number of different guns. Only in the movies was the PPK his constant companion.

Archie
August 9, 2008, 08:43 PM
The ASP was a converted Smith & Wesson model 39.

The gun was slicked up in action, the hammer spur removed, I believe the barrel and slide were shortened, the sights were replaced with a very ingenious and hideously useless sight device and the clear grips to count rounds.

I used to know the name of the man and company that did the conversions and have forgotten. They only made the conversions for a few years and then the major manufacturers and liability insurance caught up and put them out of business. There are some still around and they are collector's items.

I've read all the Ian Fleming James Bond stories and several of the others. Frankly, the Ian Fleming stories are the 'authentic' ones. All the rest are close but no cigar. The John Gardner stories are pretty fair, but the protagonist is not the same Bond as Fleming wrote.

Interestingly, in the Ian Fleming series, Bond carried and used a number of handguns. The two most common mentioned are the .25 Beretta and the Walther PPk. However, Bond was also issued a Colt Detective Special and a Smith & Wesson Centennial. In one report, Bond wryly includes "Inform armourer, Smith & Wesson revolver ineffective against flamethrower."

He also regularly kept a Colt Police Positive "...with sawn barrel..." under his pillow when he slept and carried a "...long barreled Colt 45..." in his Bentley for car to car shooting. No one seems to know if that "Colt 45" is a Government Model or Single Action Army. From the long barreled description, I've always thought it was a SAA. But I can't prove it and no one seems to have asked Fleming prior to his death.

Incidently, Mr. Fleming admitted he didn't know much about guns. He did serve in the British Army and was trained and proficient with issue weapons, but that was the limit of his personal experience and knowledge. In fact, the gun in the stories listed as a "... .25 Beretta ..." was written in the rough draft as a .28 Beretta; Fleming might have meant a .38 or .380 instead of the .25 ACP version.

In the movie where Bond has his .25 recalled, he is carrying a 1934 or 1934 Beretta, which would have been either a .380 ACP or .32 ACP pistol, depending on model. Which just goes to show the movie makers knew less about guns than did Mr. Fleming. I note with some humor Fleming describes the PPk in the book as in .32 ACP caliber. Now that's a real barn-burner.

Oh. The .25 Beretta Bond carried had a suppressor, but we never are told from where it came. Bond possibly picked it from the suppressor bush across from Secret Service HQ.

686S&W
August 9, 2008, 08:50 PM
I remember reading a bond novel a long time ago and wondering what the ASP was. I looked in the 99 Jane's Gun Rec Guide and remember seeing something that looked kind of like a Sig 220 clone.

:scrutiny:

Here's a link to look at it. Teflon eh? It has a no stick coating. Good for cooking eggs?

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg147-e.htm

I personally liked the PPK though. Always wanted one, or at least a replica.

Monkeybear
August 9, 2008, 09:52 PM
Personally, I can't wait for Quantum of Solace. Looks like he'll be using a H&K MP-5 in one scene.

Actually I am pretty sure thats a HK UMP. I know because the UMP has a special place in my heart. I have contemplated ways to get the money for a UMP but they all require a college degree which is still a few years away.

crushbup
August 9, 2008, 10:19 PM
In Moonraker the book he used a small caliber Beretta (.25ACP, I believe) and a long-barreled S&W he kept in the car.

Len S
August 9, 2008, 10:36 PM
http://www.thegunzone.com/people/paris_theodore.html More about the ASp and its creator


Len

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August 9, 2008, 10:40 PM
I simplified the bond guns to talk about the ASP. However this link is an interesting history of Bond's guns. Flemming started off with Bond carrying Beretta 418 in .25acp because that's what he carried in WW ll. A fan named Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote Flemming to suggest that the .25 was not appropriate and thus the PPK was substituted.:cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_firearms


The Movie trailer for "Quantum of Solace" is here"
http://www.007.com/vividas/?width=446,height=352


The story starts one hour after the end of "Casino Royale". Coming in Nov.
I can't wait. The second unit (action) director did the second and third "Bourne" movies, so there will be plenty of action.:what:

The trailer shows him with the Heckler & Koch UMP. And yes he'll switch to the Walther P-99. I always wanted a Walther PPK, because I read all the books and love the movies (some more than others) but I heard it wasn't a very good gun. I guess S&W took over the production and it is better but I've moved on.

belus
August 10, 2008, 12:53 PM
I always wanted a Walther PPK, because I read all the books and love the movies (some more than others) but I heard it wasn't a very good gun. I guess S&W took over the production and it is better but I've moved on. I've heard the PPK to get is the one made by the french company Manurhin. I'm not sure if they made a .380 version though.

I've only picked up on this because the Manurhin MR73 is one of my dream guns.

Piraticalbob
August 10, 2008, 01:41 PM
He also regularly kept a Colt Police Positive "...with sawn barrel..." under his pillow when he slept and carried a "...long barreled Colt 45..." in his Bentley for car to car shooting. No one seems to know if that "Colt 45" is a Government Model or Single Action Army. From the long barreled description, I've always thought it was a SAA. But I can't prove it and no one seems to have asked Fleming prior to his death.

Could have been a Colt New Service in .45 ACP and half-moon clips. They were issued during WWII.

XLMiguel
August 10, 2008, 10:55 PM
I got a kick out of the dialog when they took Bond's little Beretta & he got the Walther - '7.65 Browning, hits like a brick through a plate glass window . . . ' That was sort of when I first figured Flemming didn't know much about guns.

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