Why Has the NRA Hung NJ Out to Dry?


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AnklePocket
January 13, 2003, 11:44 PM
Our state has been out of control, but now it's on a downward spiral the likes of which defy human thought. I'd think that the NRA would feel the need to jump in and throw some resources our way in an attempt to stop the infection from spreading. Maybe I can spend my $35 a year on more worthwhile things.

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gun-fucious
January 14, 2003, 12:14 AM
welcome to being used as a NRA recruiting example for other States

In Maryland we brought up alot of rebuttals to Smartgun legislation

The NRA did not use any of the data to object to NJs new law

Zander
January 14, 2003, 12:27 AM
I am truly sorry that you live in the Peoples Democratic Republic of New Jersey or the Peoples Democratic Republic of Maryland. No citizen [subject?] should live under those unConstitutional conditions.

But my empathy doesn't extend to allowing you to blame a horribly out-of-control situation on the NRA. The NRA doesn't elect your "leaders".

Take your lousy, insignificant $35 annual dues and put them into a moving fund...unless you actually like living in a Democrat dictatorship, you're going to need every single penny you can save.

Tady45
January 14, 2003, 12:27 AM
Hum, Join the Club... California is gone to the liberal tree hugging sheeple thus, I guess they are fighting the fight else where? I just shipped off my $35.00 bucks however...



Larry


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Lone_Gunman
January 14, 2003, 12:29 AM
Dont feel like a hero for sending off your $35 bucks.

Dont blame the NRA either, the citizens of NJ are just getting what they voted for.

rock jock
January 14, 2003, 12:36 AM
I guess they don't want to pour good money after bad. You have to choose your fights wisely.

AnklePocket
January 14, 2003, 01:22 AM
It's certainly not the NRA's fault, but they do have resources that might be well put to use in New Jersey. I'm not on the marketing staff nor do I claim to have a greater mind than those who are, but a clever and thoughtful campaign in New Jersey would probably pay for itself almost immediately in new membership.
I've written and had in print about 14 anti gun-control Letters to the Editor in The Philadelphia Inquirer, USA Today, Star Ledger and Courier Post. My fan mail vs. hate mail has been at a rate of 4 to 1. Many, many people say that they understand and feel as strongly as do I (and you). Slowly, others are joining in, not to mention the hardcore efforts of those over at www.njcsd.org who are operating on a zero budget right now.
I've seen what little o'le me can do from my keyboard and terminal in the basement of my townhouse. There have been significant positive results. And I would think that the extreme conditions in New Jersey are important to the rest of the country.
Call me naive, but tackling New Jersey might be the best marketing campaign in NRA history. In the mean time I'll be holding off on my annual dues.

M1911
January 14, 2003, 07:59 AM
The NRA spends most of its resources at the federal level. State fights are mostly the domain of the local state gun rights organization. I strongly suspect that given the choice between spending money in NJ trying to hold back the tide, the NRA would rather be spending money in OH or WI, where they might have a chance to get shall-issue CCW.

Steve in PA
January 14, 2003, 08:10 AM
Because NJ and CA are hopeless causes. The "sheep" of those states elected their leaders........what a pity!!

whoami
January 14, 2003, 08:28 AM
But my empathy doesn't extend to allowing you to blame a horribly out-of-control situation on the NRA. The NRA doesn't elect your "leaders".

The NRA spends most of its resources at the federal level. State fights are mostly the domain of the local state gun rights organization. I strongly suspect that given the choice between spending money in NJ trying to hold back the tide, the NRA would rather be spending money in OH or WI, where they might have a chance to get shall-issue CCW.

I've heard these time and again, and I used to accept them until recently. If state fights are the domain of local state gun rights groups, why did the NRA strong-arm them not to push against the 'smart gun' legislation, because they had it 'taken care of'? Yes, I do blame the local orgs for listening to the NRA, and no I do not solely blame the NRA for smart gun legislation. However, the NRA set itself AGAINST our local orgs, and as far as I am concerned when they did that they set themselves, whether intentionally or not, in the camp of the pro-'smart gun' legislators. So while they are not solely responsible, THEY MOST DEFINITELY SHARE IN THE RESPONSIBILITY, AND THUS DESERVE SOME MEASURE OF BLAME.

Any idiot with an IQ below the grade school standard could tell you that there was no way any members of the state legislature, much less Governor McGreevey, would EVER side with, much less deal with, the NRA. That the NRA would believe they could cut such a deal makes me wonder who exactly is running the show.

Take your lousy, insignificant $35 annual dues and put them into a moving fund...unless you actually like living in a Democrat dictatorship, you're going to need every single penny you can save.

Since you at least have empathy for us, I hope you have enough emotion to forgive the few of us who's stomachs quail at the idea of giving up a fight. Some of us here are not quitters, and we'd rather fight in places that NEED TO BE FOUGHT....

Mastrogiacomo
January 14, 2003, 09:15 AM
Pretty down on Democrats I've noticed. This may shock you, not all Democrats are anti-gun and not all Republicans are pro-gun -- meet our new Governer Mitt (anti) Romney. So much for your great Republican hope. As for getting what we vote for -- talk when you're faced with the same voting choices people find in NJ, NY, or MA, until then you should stop color coating everyone as ignorant, stupid Democrats that get what they deserve. I vote for candidates that are pro-gun as I find them as I'm sure gun owners in other states do. Don't fault us for not having the same options you do in gun favorable states, there's no fair comparison.

El Tejon
January 14, 2003, 10:29 AM
NRA has betrayed us all time after time. NJ no different than the rest of us.

Zander
January 14, 2003, 10:49 AM
Some of us here are not quitters, and we'd rather fight in places that NEED TO BE FOUGHT....Didn't mean to imply that you are. There are certainly two schools of thought on this [just ask Jim March], but occasionally reality intrudes. If you live in the PRNJ or PRMD, it might be time to move.

RE: Democrats...

We have some A+ -rated 'rats in Tennessee. They are in office in good part because they promise not to compromise our RKBA. Some of them even tell the truth. :cool:

Our state is not run by a cabal of socialist dictators, however.

Mastrogiacomo
January 14, 2003, 12:03 PM
I hate the arguement that if you're unhappy, move. It implies that you have the job and money to do so. I don't and I'm sure others don't in this day and age. There's more things to consider in a move than just my gun and some politicans. People in gun restricted states have to work with what they have until they have the means to change their situation. Even then, it may be a matter of family issues. I wouldn't leave my family behind in a state and pick up and move to another simply because of gun laws. People in more liberal states need to get a reality check before they pass judgement on those that are living in a part of the country where the laws are strict and strictly enforced. Besides, as an Italian American I couldn't live in a place like Texas and be happy, any more than I could be in Colordao, Idaho, etc... As for the NRA, I haven't seen anything they've done for this state to help gun owners. Since I'm unemployed, I can think of a better place to put the money -- like my bills...

TheeBadOne
January 14, 2003, 12:29 PM
Perhaps everyone has given up on NJ....:confused:

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