I need a new inline


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RKellogg
August 11, 2008, 10:16 AM
I have a CVA Wolf that I can't get to shoot good . Maybe I am asking too much . The best I can do with it is a pie plate group at 100 yards :banghead: is that too much to ask . I have tried all kinds of bullets from 180 gr sabots , to 295 gr power belts .
So what do you guys shoot for an inline . I have been looking at the Omegas or maybe even a Encore , I don't realy want to spend that much , but I will if thats what it takes .

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Voodoochile
August 11, 2008, 11:11 AM
I don't know much about CVA's Wolf inline but they seem to be fine rifles for the money.

What's the powder type & charge that you've tried in it?
Was those shots benched or off hand?

TC makes some fine rifles & have a great reputation in that catagory but they aren't cheap & if I was into the inline Muzzleloader I would opt for their Omega.

frontiergander
August 11, 2008, 12:16 PM
You need to tell us the loads that you have shot and what primer you've shot with such and such load.

I have plenty of bullets and powder so if you are interested, You can send it to me and i'll be more than happy to find a few loads for you. I can supply you with my phone number and such.

I think it will mainly come down to is the load but most importantly, the primer.

arcticap
August 11, 2008, 12:34 PM
Usually it's a matter of finding the right combination of powder, bullet, sabot and primer.
There's the new Blackhorn 209 powder, there's sabots of different diameters which dictate easier or tighter loading, and there's all kinds of bullets including premium ones.

You can buy a more expensive rifle and it still may not shoot any better.
Are you willing to spend $1 a bullet just to try to obtain better groups?
Well, I often say that when you're out hunting you're not shooting groups, you're just trying to hit the pie plate and the first shot out of a cold barrel is all that really matters. Shooting in the heat of summer is not the same as shooting in the cold of winter either. And different barrel lengths, stocks and actions are just not always capable of the same accuracy.
So look and read about some of the sabot options on the websites that I'm posting below and don't give up so easily. Sometimes just the brand of primer can make an accruacy difference. Plus the rifle will always move when it's being fired. So who's to say that it's not the scope, barrel temperature or barrel bedding or attachment to the stock? How clean is your barrel between shots?
Then if you're really set on buying a new rifle, you'll at least be better prepared to start a similar process all over again.


Some sabots are made to fit tighter than others, and they can even have a different number of petals. Read about the different diameters and types on the MMP site listed below.

If you look at MMP's closely, there's even a sabot that allows the use of a .457 - .458 bullet, and another that loads a .399 - .40 bullet.


http://www.mmpsabots.com/

http://www.harvesterbullets.com/sabots.htm

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4802075#post4802075

RKellogg
August 11, 2008, 12:37 PM
I keep the powder the same 100 gr of 777 , I am also useing the 777 primer . Has far has bullets go , I have tried , 250 gr Hornaday SSt , 250 Shack Waves , 200 gr Shack Waves , 295 gr power belt , 180 & 200 gr saboted bullet that I can't think of the name right now , got them from cabelas , some long range super bullet . NOT one of them shot what I would call good .
I run a patch down it after every shot . It has a new omega scope .

I hate to blame the gun , but I am looking at a stainless 45 cal Omega right now for $200 . I have heard good and bad about the 45 cal .

frontiergander
August 11, 2008, 12:48 PM
drop your charge down to 80 grains T7 with the powerbelt. The Triple 7 primers are good but if you can find them, Try the Remington Kleanbore primers and see how that does.

Hollow Point or Aerotip?

If you are using a scope and only getting piepan groups with all of those, i'd start looking at possibly a New powder, loose scope mounts.

How did it shoot with open sights?

RoaringBull
August 11, 2008, 12:50 PM
Try a good old patched round ball and see if that gives you a good grouping. Might try dropping the 777 load to about 75 and work your way back up, that stuff burns pretty hot.

For what its worth, I have a couple of Wolf rifles that we shoot Pyrodex pellets in w/ a PRB and get great groups using 2 pellets.

scrat
August 11, 2008, 01:00 PM
90 grains behind a R.E.A.L bullet lubed with bore butter did the trick for me

RKellogg
August 11, 2008, 02:58 PM
What do you guys think about a 45 cal .

frontiergander
August 11, 2008, 03:23 PM
i like 45's as long as its not made by tc and an inline :D

gru556
August 11, 2008, 03:36 PM
My son and his buddy think there great.The do seem to shot flatter.My son has an 45 inline he would like to sell reasonable if interested let me know and I'll hook ya up

arcticap
August 11, 2008, 05:07 PM
Because the bullets are relatively lighter, they have more velocity & reach but less penetration than larger calibers at longer ranges. I'm sure that they work though.
There's probably more bullet weight options in the larger calibers, but the price of the gun is always a consideration. It consumes less powder and has less recoil too.
What's not to like?

bejay
August 12, 2008, 05:56 AM
I would listen to everyones advice and try different powder charges start around 75 and shoot a group and work your way up per example try 80, 85,90 etc. before giving up on the gun, unless you just want to buy another gun but theres a good chance you will have to do the same thing with the gun you replace it with to get the groups that you want.

frontiergander
August 12, 2008, 03:18 PM
You can buy all of the guns you want but if you dont have patience with that rifle and try working up loads, it wont shoot. I had an odd ball type of deal with a cva mountain rifle that likes being double patched.

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