[Black92LX]

Subject pretty much says it all.

Mainly looking at the
Sig Trailside Target and Beretta U22 Neo

but opinions on all are welcome

[SelfProclaimedExpert]

Best? My vote would go to the S&W 41 or the Marvel conversion on a 1911 frame. Also Beretta 87 or Benelli MP95, but those are even more dedicated comp guns.

Don't know much about the Neos, but the lower is plastic, I think.

The frame of the Trailside is made of a very cheap, cast metal. One guy I read about wasn't "careful enough" and broke the trigger guard right off his. Accurate pistols, though.

[Black92LX]

Benelli MP95

Benelli makes handguns??????

where can i find the marvel conversions, i want a 1911 too so why not kill 2 birds with one stone.

[Drifting Fate]

I hate to sound like some futz, but define "best."

Cost no object, probably a Smith 41. Unless you want a true target pistol, and then a Hammerli or something like that.

Sounds like you want a basic .22 as a fun gun/plinker/trainer/field hunting pistol.

For that, there are only two worth putting money on (IMHO): Ruger MKII or Browning Buckmark.

I have multiple copies of both, and you can't go wrong with either. The Ruger gets more press, but I think the Buckmark is actually the better pistol for your hard earned dollar.

[Black92LX]

Sounds like you want a basic .22 as a fun gun/plinker/trainer/field hunting pistol

you make a good point there. and you hit it right on the nose with your comment about what i might be looking for.

[C.R.Sam]

Oh....
I was also thinkin Walther, Hammerli, Pardini etc.

For really accurate plinkin and informal (no purse) target work...The Ruger is excellant, reliable and inexpensive.

Sam

[Okiecruffler]

I've always been fond of those Hi Standard Supermatics myself.

[SelfProclaimedExpert]

Marvel has a website:

http://marvelprecision.com/beauty.htm

Here's a $355 top end that will shoot 1" 50 yard groups. People are using, and winning with these in matches.

For that same money you could get a slightly less accurate Ruger that needs trigger work (assuming your 1911 doesn't), or be 3/4 of the way to the Sig with the cast parts or the half way to a used 41.

Seems like a win-win situation.

FYI, I do think highly of the Ruger and Browning .22s, but the more deluxe models are pushing it for price vs. quality. Solid, though.

[10-Ring]

I've had a great time shooting my Ruger slabside. It was inexpensive, it's reliable & more than accurate enough.

[hksw]

Benelli makes handguns??????

Pretty sure they stopped importing them due to low demand. At least they no longer advert them in their brochures. Should have bought that MP90S when I had the chance (for a reasonable price).

[Ala Dan]

Hello!

From my experiences, I found that the .22LR caliber
Colt Match Target Woodsman performed
the best.:D Grant it, they are kind'a hard to come
by these day's and a bit pricey; but well worth the
wait and money.

Runner up would be Ruger's 5.5" bull barreled
model KMK-512.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

[LFW]

Here's a couple of the best field/plinkers you can have. I paid $200 for this minty Hi-Standard Sport King. A S&W M41 with the five inch sport/field barrel will cost you around $600, and are harder to find. (They don't make the five inch barrel anymore.)
http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/standard?pictid={781294EC-43DA-4C20-AE7A-F7BEE8A5924D}&exp=f&moddt=37865.8133234028

[Pilot]

I have a Benelli MP95E "Atlanta". It was imported by EAA and at one time HK also put their branding on it. Its an excellent target pistol for the money, but more of a dedicated target gun than plinker. For all around use I like either my Ruger MK II or CZ-75 with the Kadet Kit .22 conversion unit. Going the CZ route with the Kadet Kit, you get two guns (9MM and .22) for the price of 1 1/2.

[Black92LX]

would you mind posting a picture of it Pilot?? The Benelli that is.

[hksw]

MP90S
http://www.pistolskytte.org/info/vapen/Benelli_MP90S.jpg

MP95
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/europe/Italie/Armes/Benelli/Benelli_MP95-E_Kromo_Pistol_italy_01.jpg

[Pilot]

Thanks Ron, I don't have a digi camera handy. You can get the upgraded, adjustable grip for the 95. The trigger of the 95 is also adjustable, but unlike the 90, you have to dissasemble the gun a little bit before being able to access the adjustment screws. Other than that, I believe there are no other differences except price and I still saw the MP95 available new in a local gun shop a few months ago. The price was around $750 if memory serves.

The nice thing about the Benelli is the magazine is in the front of the trigger assembly (like a C-96 Mauser) and balance is very good. The grip is also designed that recoil goes straight back into your arm and muzzle climb is very slight. You can also add weight to the muzzle to customize the balance and or reduce what little muzzle climb there is.

[ambidextrous1]

Lots of good suggestions here. For the record, I agree with Drifting Fate.

[Dave Markowitz]

Sounds like you want a basic .22 as a fun gun/plinker/trainer/field hunting pistol.

For that, there are only two worth putting money on (IMHO): Ruger MKII or Browning Buckmark.

What he said.

If possible, hold each one in a gun shop and see which one feels best to you. In my case, it was a Browning Micro Buckmark.

[yzguy]

love my MKII 6 7/8 bull barrel

[rick_reno]

The Hammerli 208s is an excellent semi-auto pistol, the problem is they stopped making it. A very good gun in current production is the Pardini SP. I've had both the 208s and the SP, they both shoot equally well and are very reliable - in choosing one over the other it's pretty subjective. Hammerli has replaced the 208 with the SP-20, it's gotten mixed reviews from those using it. The older High Standard Victors (Hamden production) are also great guns

[SelfProclaimedExpert]

The attachment is of what the $355 unit will do. Marvel also offers a $300 "Practical" unit that is does not have an integral barrel/sight bridge. It still makes 1" hand held groups at 25 yards, and is more 1911 looking.

[rick_reno]

Tha Marvel conversion target posted by Selfproclaimed expert is a good one, it's also the best one of the 28 posted on the Marvel website. Groups range from the posted .245 up to what looks a .82 - all good performance at 50 yds from a 22LR in a Ransom Rest. Marvel does extensive testing on their conversions, you'll get a test target with your kit and you might find some ammo that can better their performance. They make the best conversion on the market - no doubt about that. Hang one on a Caspian frame 1911 and you've got a nice target pistol - if you like the 1911 ergonomics. The targets are here http://www.marvelprecision.com/testtargets.htm

[MoNsTeR]

I love my Trailside. Just like the factory test target shows, it will shoot quarter-sized groups at 25 yards with cheap ammo. Great factory trigger too. Better balance and better sights (get the adjustables) than my Ruger 6 7/8". They're expensive compared to a MkII or Buckmark, but it just might be worth it.

[9x19]

I just traded into a 4.5" (w/ adjusatable rear) SIG Trailside. Its hang tag proof target shows one ragged hole at 25 meters.I hope I can find some ammo it likes nearly that well. :D

[Standing Wolf]

A Hi-Standard 10X will do anything you want, from putting shots through the same hole to bringing squirrels crashing down from the highest treetops.

I concur. I've been looking for one for over two decades without a shred of success.

I was enthusiastic about the Trailside until I actually handled one in a gun shop not long ago. The grips were adjustable, all right, but made out of cheap-feeling blue plastic with a grossly exaggerated palm swell, and the magazine was flimsy-feeling plastic. For $659.99, I left it in the shop.

My best .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol is my 1978 High Standard Trophy. In twenty-odd years of shooting it, I've had a grand total of one failure to fire, and that was with low budget Remington ammunition.