Anyone know where I can find free reduced range targets on the net?


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goon
August 12, 2008, 02:32 PM
Anyone on here know where I could find some silouhette targets reduced in scale for 25 yards?
I've tried searching for this on the internet and found a lot of targets but none that are exactly what I'm looking for.
I'm looking for something kind of similar to US army qualification targets that I could print out myself.

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Vermont
August 12, 2008, 02:42 PM
http://appleseedshoot.blogspot.com/2008/03/aqt-targets.html

Something like this?

When you print them, use the landscape orientation, or they will get cut off.

Thernlund
August 12, 2008, 02:46 PM
This what you're after?

http://www.mccaughtry.com/CATM.htm


-T.

Famine
August 12, 2008, 02:48 PM
http://www.mytargets.com/tnTarget61rhino.gif

How about a charging Rhino? Just kidding, probably not what you want.

I had some websites at one time that, I think, is what you are looking for, but none of the links worked when I checked them last, so I'm not any help now. Are you after the BG silhouette?

Famine
August 12, 2008, 02:51 PM
Wow, you guys are fast...beat me with the real thing before I could post my rhino, lol.

goon
August 12, 2008, 11:22 PM
Thanks.
I suspect that the appleseed targets might be what I'm looking for but I can't see them at the link.

What I'm looking for is something like a mini version of what the US army uses for qualification on 25 meter ranges.

Bushwhacker
August 12, 2008, 11:40 PM
Here are a few sites;

http://www.targetz.com/

http://www.6mmbr.com/targets.html

http://www.theshootingschool.org/targets.html

http://www.pafoa.org/forum/competition-tactics-107/321-free-targets-download.html

http://www.mytargets.com/


http://isportsdigest.tripod.com/shooting/target/targets.html

Some of the above sites have multiple sites listed that have free downloadable targets.
Hope this helps....

funfaler
August 13, 2008, 01:00 AM
There are some Appleseed style targets here http://appleseedshoot.blogspot.com/

Not to mention some very good information about shooting and attending an Appleseed Shoot.

A simple 1 inch square is a great 25 meter target. A 4 moa target, simulates 500 yards nicely. You can get 1" wide colored masking tape cheap, put it on paper or card board.

goon
August 13, 2008, 02:39 AM
Thanks.
I found them at the appleseed site but the only ones I can get to load are the "redcoat" version.
No big deal though, they'll do.
I also found a PDF version at another site. If anyone needs them say something and I'll attach them here.

possum
August 13, 2008, 09:20 AM
here are the ones that we use in the Army.
http://www.letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=ALT+C+QUAL

jrfoxx
August 13, 2008, 11:14 AM
I have a .pdf of the same style (the silohuetts that looks like a blended head and shoulder/upeer torso) as the ones shown for 50 and 100 meter in Possum's link above, adjusted to be used at 15yds. If you (or anyone lese who wants it) PM's me with you email address, I'll happily send it to you (sorry, no idea how to post/host a .pdf file).

I got it from a link on here, or TFL a while back. No idea wha tthe link was anymore, and havent tried it, and cant personally verify the scale is correct, but I have no reason to doubt it, and am inclined to say it's correct.

tawcat
August 13, 2008, 11:30 AM
mouseguns.com offers free downloadable targets.

goon
August 13, 2008, 01:47 PM
Possum - that's what I remember. I just couldn't find them anywhere.
The appleseed targets are pretty good for this too though and they have reduced scale targets equivalent to 400 yards on theirs.

jrfoxx - check your PM's. I'd appreciate that PDF if it's not too much trouble to email it to me.

goon
August 13, 2008, 09:13 PM
For anyone who's been following this, here are the targets I have found.
I found the AQT targets somewhere on the net.
The 15 yard target is available courtesy of jrfoxx.

elChupacabra!
August 20, 2008, 03:55 PM
Goon,

I just actually created some targets and posted them at this link here

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=386775

It's my own design (roughly based on the Army Alt "C" Qual Target crossed with the standards of the USMC KD CoF), but it sounds like you want to do the same thing I did. I hope this helps!

goon
August 20, 2008, 10:53 PM
Chupacabra - I found those in your other post and yours is going to get some use along with the appleseed targets I already found.
Already have them both saved to my hard drive. :)

It's also good to have them cross linked with this thread too because it might come up in a search on the off chance that a new guy actually uses the search function instead of asking the same question again. :banghead:
:D

elChupacabra!
August 21, 2008, 12:00 AM
Goon -

Glad to be of assistance, and I hope you (and anyone searching) can get some good use out of them :)

Incidentally I was very suprised that there really aren't more targets like this out there - it's not hard to make them, and alot better to just whip them up in Paint / Word and print them on 8.5x11 than buy them from letargets.com, which is where I started :)

Also, for anyone who feels a creative urge to make their own scaled targets (scaled to any range), here is the methodology for calculating scaled target size (and just add a head, lower torso and any scoring rings to your taste) -

1) The average human male stands approximately 19" across the shoulders. I believe the USMC uses an 18" target, so that's where I started.

2) Assuming you set your targets at 25m, you want them to be 1/4 of what they would be at 100m.

3) So a 100m target @ 25m stands 18"/4 across the shoulders - 4.5" (if you want to use a 20" target, that becomes a 5" base). Then, just divide that base number by the ratio of the intended range to 100m - here are some common examples:

150m = 150m/100m = 1.5; 4.5"/1.5 = 3"
200m = 200m/100m = 2.0; 4.5"/2.0 = 2.25"
250m = 250m/100m = 2.5; 4.5"/2.5 = 1.8"
300m = 300m/100m = 3.0; 4.5"/3.0 = 1.5"
400m = 400m/100m = 4.0; 4.5"/4.0 = 1.125"
500m = 500m/100m = 5.0; 4.5"/5.0 = 0.9"
600m = 600m/100m = 6.0; 4.5"/6.0 = 0.75"

And so forth.

Here is the simplified formula, with 2 examples:

(simulated target size/(simulated range/target range)) = scaled target size

(18"/(100m/25m)) = 4.5"

(20"/(600m/25m)) = 0.83"

4) To figure the simulated range of a scaled target you have that is designed to be placed at a known range, here is the formula with 2 examples:

((simulated target size/actual target size)* target range) = simulated range

((18"/0.9")*25m) = 500m

((20"/2.0")*25m) = 250m

Finally, let's work through one last example - you have a target that is 3" across the shoulders, and you know it is supposed to be placed at 25m. What range does that 3" target represent if you go with the 18" USMC measurement for a target? So here's what you've got -

((18" simulated target/3" actual target)*25m) = 150m simulated target size

I know this was a bit mathy but I hope it enlightens someone :)

elChupacabra!
August 21, 2008, 12:20 AM
Heck, as an afterthought, you can apply this scaling to a simulated target of any dimension - say you want to practice shooting Chevy Silverados with your .50 BMG rifle at 2km (hey why not!?) but your range only goes to 100m, so no luck. Well, Wikipedia informs that the mid-length Silverado is 227" long, so you apply as follows -

(227"/(2000m/100m)) = 227"/20 = 11.35"

Find you a picture of a truck, scale it so it's about 11.4" long (maintaining the image ratio of height to length, of course), and proceed to shoot out that engine block. Of course this doesn't get into the REAL trick of shooting 2000m - windage and elevation - but it's fun for those of us who have limited facilities :)

Ok it's late and I need to go to bed... but just thought I'd throw an example out there which shows what all can be done with a little use of ratios and creativity. Goodnight!

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