plans for a new muzzle loader build.


August 13, 2008, 07:14 PM
wanting to make a side by side muzzle loader rifle. preferably caplock.

im thinking im gonna hafta use a blank stock and carve it myself unfortunetly. as i dont think a double fowler stock will work right for octagon bbls.

im trying to find a place to get .45 cal bbls with a faster twist than 1-70. preferably 1-28 or so for sabbots or decent sized cast bullets. tried track and they only offer bbls with that rate of twist in HEAVY (1-1/8") barrels far to heavy to have 2 side by side. was looking at maybe the ones green river offer for the lyman rifles and mill off the parts i dont need.

any idea's ?

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August 13, 2008, 08:07 PM
Sounds like quite a challenge, getting the two regulated and all. The GR barrel idea seems reasonable to me, but what do I know?

Be sure to keep us informed.

August 13, 2008, 09:49 PM
Check out this site:

They have a ton of gun building supplies.

August 14, 2008, 12:03 AM

That work for you? Catch is its .50 not .45


August 14, 2008, 07:31 AM
that should work. i suppose most in lines now that shoot sabbots shoot 50. so it stands to reason 50's would be more common than 45's.

August 14, 2008, 02:53 PM
This outfit offers tapered .45 Oregon Barrel Co. barrels made to the twist rate of your choice. Maybe they can make you custom round ones if that's what you want. They state:Oregon Barrel Company is a speciality barrel making company. If you need something that is not listed on the web site, contact us for a price quote.

Barrels are listed under custom gun building parts:

August 15, 2008, 12:57 PM
Years ago I was able to get 45 caliber round barrels with the 1/22 twist from Numrich. That might work with the fowler stock.

All rifle barrels were not octagonal. Many long rifles had round or part round barrels.

Good luck.

August 15, 2008, 09:39 PM
i figgured straight octagon bbls would be easyer to regulate and weld together. than round or tapered.

August 21, 2008, 10:51 AM
I'd suggest solder.

The bullets should converge at some distance, so the barrel will need some taper. Contriving a jig to hold the barrels together for soldering is not that hard but getting a good joint is. Probably why so few smiths want to tackle resoldering double shotguns and the ones that will tackle it charge well for their service.

Good luck.

August 21, 2008, 10:59 AM
I`m thinking it`s going to be a might heavy ...I`ve never handled the dubble barreled Kodiak rifle so I don`t know for sure ..But it has round barrels which would be lighter .

August 21, 2008, 12:21 PM
Ya how many pounds do you think the finished product will weigh. I imagine it would be fun at the range. I just dont see how practical it can be out in the field. You would have to have a rest of some type to support the gun to aim

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