[Monkeyleg]

The local news just did a story on Wisconsin's concealed carry bill, and the station announced an online poll. Right now we're outnumbered 77% to 23%.

You know what to do.

The poll is at http://www.touchtmj4.com/ about 2/3rds down the page on the right.

[AZTOY]

DONE

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

YES, 44 states already allow it. (27.5%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (70.2%)


Don't Know (2.3%)


Total votes: 218

[Bigjake]

^up^ get on it folks, nearly 6500 members strong, we should trounce this poll better than that

typo

[Col. Mustard]

We're getting closer. 32.9% to 65% with 237 votes in. C'MON PEOPLE!

[Greg L]

Keep them coming:

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

YES, 44 states already allow it. (68.0%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (31.1%)


Don't Know (1.0%)


Total votes: 512

[4v50 Gary]

69.7% pro CCW
29.4% con
.9% dunno

Vote!

[Zundfolge]

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

Its an illogical argument.

Just because you wouldn't be "Safer" with CCW doesn't mean you would be less safe with it either.

[JeepDriver]

Consider it smoked

589 votes.

70.6% Yes :neener:
28.5 % No
0.08% Don't know :rolleyes:

[greyhound]

Its an illogical argument

I don't care, I emotionally voted anyway. JeepDriver's right 70%-28.5% still.

FWIW, the "Baltimore Sun" did one of these polls here recently, and it was 90%-10% in favor of shall-issue in MARYLAND. I guess it shows that the rural population reads the paper, while the ultra-liberal (and totally politically dominant in state elections) doesn't.:neener:

[sctman800]

I just voted and we are running ahead of the antis 51 5 to 48% with about 1% head in sand. Jim.

[jimpeel]

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

YES, 44 states already allow it. (42.1%)

NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (57.4%)

Don't Know (0.5%)

Total votes: 1,059

I, however, found this far more interesting:

http://www.jsonline.com/outdoors/sep03/166486.asp?source=tmj4

After years of political battles, legal wrangling and controversy, Wisconsin's first mourning dove hunt got under way Monday a half-hour before sunrise. State hunters got their first chance at North America's most popular game bird.

[Zedicus]

Voted, but looks like the anti's are going vote bezerk.
(see pic)
Either that or some @$$wipe is changeing the results.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=468463

[Bigjake]

60/38 %, antis ahead

[Zedicus]

Found what's up, Tried it again with a diffrent browser and the ani-'s vote went up!

So I had a look at the code:D (being a web designer and a programmer has it advantages at times)
They reversed the results so that if you vote yes it shows it as voting no.
*grumbles great obcenitys about the media*:cuss:

[Bigjake]

seriously?? thats disgusting, but i'm not at all suprised since its right outa the left's playbook

[Zedicus]

Not joking, try the browser test your sellf, I only delved into the code to confirm what I was seeing.


I just sent them an e-mail that they will not appriciate at all
Dear Sir
I am Writing this e-mail to Inform you of a aparent error in the code of your poll on your main page, It would seem that the code is either mistakenly or otherwise set to reverse the results.

IE: No counts for a Yes and a Yes for a No.

As a Programmer and Web Developer, I feel it my duty to inform you of this serious error.

I thank you for your time.
Let's see what they reply with...:D

[P95Carry]

Done ......... mind you ........ YES, 44 states already allow it. (37.3%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (62.3%)


Don't Know (0.4%)


Total votes: 1,402

Hardly encouraging eh ....... I'd like to know what the ''lowest crime rate'' actually is ....... there is some paranoia creepin to this ..... :rolleyes:

[C.R.Sam]

Doesn't seem to be buffered against multi-clicks or multiple individual votes from same addy.

Totally invalid poll, but if it goes against us, they will surely use it against us anyway.

Sam

[twoblink]

The poll is stupid and useless..

Took me about 5 minutes to write a little script that auto votes..

Just watch.. I'll vote about 300 times in the next 10 minutes..

Being a programmer has it's advantages!!!

But of course, had it gone the anti's way, they would have reported it. But I'm sure they will keep hush when we win..

(Of course, I will make sure we win.. pro-gun people are not just smarter people, but smarter programmers!!)

[Zedicus]

The poll is stupid and useless..

Took me about 5 minutes to write a little script that auto votes..

Just watch.. I'll vote about 300 times in the next 10 minutes..
It's a waste of the 15 minutes dude, that's why I never bothered to do that...

[C.R.Sam]

TwoBlink....you have help.

Sam

[scottgun]

Pro RKBA is back over 50%

yes = 52.1, no = 47.6, don't know = .3
I wonder of those 1800 votes, how many people actually voted?

[P95Carry]

haha! YES, 44 states already allow it. (52.4%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (47.3%)


Don't Know (0.3%)


Total votes: 1,865

Something ''worked'' :p :evil:

It is of course useless and invalid . I could vote again ....... no ''catchnet'' built in.

Oh well ........ :rolleyes:

[twoblink]

I just voted 111 times :D

Going to take a lunch break now, and then I have to go to work..

But, see how silly these polls are??

Before Twoblink:

yes: 39%
no: 59%

after twoblink:

yes: 54%
no: 44%

aren't I magical?? :evil:

[C.R.Sam]

Yes we are.:D

60-40 for us

Sam

[JDSlack]

Okay, I voted. But I have a question...who goes to one of these sites and votes...Don't Know? How stupid is that?

[AZTOY]

Twoblink

Nice job!!

[Standing Wolf]

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?
YES, 44 states already allow it. (70.6%)
NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (29.2%)
Don't Know (0.2%)
Total votes: 3,032

The Bill of Rights is ahead.

[C.R.Sam]

80-20.....for the good guys.

eBay TUZZing

Sam

[C.R.Sam]

86-14 in our favor. 6,456 total votes.

Runnin out of relatives, could use some help burying em.

Sam

[Greg L]

Of course now that Zedicus found out what the original game was (adjusting the code to reverse the results) and they presumably fixed it (as the yes votes are now going to yes) I'm sure that the station will come out (if they mention the poll at all) and say that "There was a flaw with the program and that "no" votes were counted as "yes". Therefore all 86% of you were actually voting no and we were right to help keep those scary guns away from everyone but the Kings Men."

Greg

[Horny Toad]

Done.



Horny Toad

[hd1.]

Sept. 3rd, 8:25 am.

Yes: 89.3%

No: 10.6%

Don't know: 0.1%

Total: 8,478

[Bacchus]

Numbers are dropping.

81% yes as of 10:00 AM EST.

[foghornl]

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

YES, 44 states already allow it. (80.6%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (16.0%)


Don't Know (3.5%)


Total votes: 9,44


Results from 10:12AM, EDT 9-3-03

[cpileri]

I love these! I think this is one of the best uses of this forum!
C-

[C.R.Sam]

Now we are in the hole again.
Yes 49.7.....total 15,531

Think the antis know how to stuff a vote.

Sam

[Monkeyleg]

We're losing.

[jimpeel]

Voted, backspaced, voted, backspaced, voted, backspaced, etc.

Watched the numbers go up. This "poll" has no cookie assignation to the voter so they can vote as many times as they want.

You can bet your sweet one that the antis are stuffing the thing.

[AZTOY]

Watched the numbers go up. This "poll" has no cookie assignation to the voter so they can vote as many times as they want.


It will only let me vote one time.:confused:

[answerguy]

Actually this is a well worded poll, considering the media and all. One can easily justify the result that "91% of respondents said 'Wisconsin would be as safe or safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?"

At least that's how I read it.

[tetchaje1]

All 23 of me voted to bring it up 0.10%... :rolleyes: :p

[Bigjake]

Consider the playing field leveled



online poll

Would Wisconsin be safer if citizens could legally carry concealed weapons?

YES, 44 states already allow it. (46.5%)


NO, we already have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (45.9%)


Don't Know (7.7%)


Total votes: 20,820


LEARN MORE: States consider easing gun restrictions

[lee n. field]

As the noose closes around Ill-i-noise. . . .


Pretty much dead even, 45% to 46%, at 20.5 kilovotes

[JeepDriver]

Helped out agian.


I added about 20 Yes votes to the tally!

[DigMe]

You guys have a lot of free time. :neener:

brad cook

[twoblink]

If you turn off cookies, you can vote as many times as you want..

WOW.. it's dead even again!!

Ouch..

Time to stuff the ballot box..

I'm going to try to become about 25% of the voting populous.. Of course, I do it in software (automated program)..

Going to lunch. I'll let it run.. Let me see if I can't add 20,000 votes by this afternoon..

[Devonai]

I would like the truth to be known as much as anyone here, but I have a problem with voting more than once or using scripts to run votes.

If the antis were running scripts and destroying the poll results, we'd all be apoplectic with outrage.

I know it's just a stupid, unscientific web poll, but doesn't anyone else see the potential hypocracy here?

Nevermind the fact that the moment the webmasters realize this is happening, the poll will be pulled. If they were running, say, ten votes an hour and suddenly they're getting 20,000 votes an hour, you don't think they'll wonder about it?

[C.R.Sam]

If the antis were running scripts and destroying the poll results, we'd all be apoplectic with outrage. Or counterattack. There was a period where the anti vote rate was about 7,000 to 1 pro vote.

Would be good if they did pull the poll. Since there is zero security on it ; it has zero validity.

Sam

[dandean316]

Were down 2%. Vote!

[greyhound]

Actually, I too am curious as to how people in Wisconsin honestly feel about CCW, not in winning a rigged poll.

I wonder if they were running these polls in Minnesota before their law got passed? (I sat this because I keep reading about the leftists screaming about how they were "blindsided" by the new law).