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tj_dude
August 16, 2008, 11:29 AM
As a new father Im looking for ways to keep my home defense gun secure ,what are my options ? Do they still make the alarm clock safe ? I think it was "safe and secure " ? Im looking for somthing that does not look like a safe

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dmazur
August 16, 2008, 08:04 PM
My universal answer to this question is, "Get a decent rapid-access safe and bolt it down to something."

This solves the problem of keeping the kid out of it, and it also provides some deterrence against the snatch and grab artist.

The stronger the construction, the better. I like the type that bolts between studs in a bedroom closet, has a combination you set (lighted dial), has a backup key for battery failure (keep it in a bank safety deposit box), and is almost flush so you can hide it behind clothes.

Trust me. The bad guys have seen all the trick gun hidey-things. When they toss a house, they flip everything in just a few minutes.

The one I have (Phoenix Home Security Safe), has shelves inside for storing other things you want to protect, or for a flashlight, extra mags, etc. IMO its worth every penny. How much? $300.

kingpin008
August 16, 2008, 08:21 PM
I guess my question is, why do you want a safe that doesn't look like a safe? Is it because you don't want your kids messing around with it, or are you concerned with someone breaking in and going for it, knowing (or hoping) that there are goodies inside?

If it's the kid angle, might I suggest that instead of hiding or disguising them from your kids, you introduce them to the kids, and make sure that they know that it's not OK to touch them without you there? Too many kids have been hurt by guns because they were forbiddeon objects, never explained and shown to otherwise curious kids who found out (many times tragically) for themselves. To me, hiding them from children is a terrible mistake.

That said - if you're looking for a way to hide them from criminals - don't bother. Make your priority a strong safe, and bolt it down or otherwise secure it to your house in some way. Criminals who break in to a house will upturn and search through everything, regardless of what it looks like. They are not usually fooled by disguises, because if it's small enough to walk away with or easy enough to remove, they'll try to take it. If it's bolted to your floor, that's not so easy. Not that that will deter them completely, but it's better than some cheesy disguise.

tj_dude
August 16, 2008, 08:43 PM
well its also a matter of ct has a safe storage law !

kingpin008
August 16, 2008, 09:17 PM
Ok, I can understand that. I'm not asking why you need a safe (everyone should have one), I'm just asking why you're looking for one that doesn't look like a safe.

MAKster
August 17, 2008, 01:34 PM
American Security sells a lock box that holds one handgun. It uses the Simplex mechanical push button lock. It has two holes in the bottom so you can bolt it to something like your nightstand. I can easily push the combo in the dark.

Happiness Is A Warm Gun
August 17, 2008, 01:59 PM
I have large gun safe and then I have a "gun vault".
They make a small one w/ enough room for 1 gun and a spare mag.

It can be opened quickly even in the dark. the "deluxe" version is the one I recommend since it has a AC adapter (to reduce drain on batteries), and an internal light.

Now I am under no illusion that it will stop a determined thief, that is why I only keep one weapon (Springfield XD) w/ spare mag. All my other guns go in the safe.

Tirod
August 17, 2008, 02:14 PM
Locally, police report usage of an obvious safe is deterrent enough. The BG's know it will be bolted down and too tough to mess with in their limited access time. The next move is the DVD player or other quick turnover electronics.

Don't forget, most gun burglaries are cased a few weeks in advance when an acquaintance wants to show off your weapons to some other "friend." Don't, and they won't know you had them to begin with. Safes at home keep family juveniles from unlimited access. Letting them handle weapons when they ask defuses the "forbidden fruit" aspects. Cautioning them not to brag to their buddies is character building, aside from security concerns. Beyond that, we sometimes are our own worst enemy.

Another application of the above is to say I will neither confirm or deny I may, or may not, have a safe, or firearms, at all. :uhoh:

Not that I don't trust myself or anything.

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