Getting Ready For TS / Hurricane Fay


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FLA2760
August 16, 2008, 07:07 PM
Here we go again. :rolleyes:The whole state of Florida is in the "cone of uncertainty". Right now it looks like it can be Tue PM thru Wed PM in my area.

We are getting ready with the supplies and gas for the cars. I am about an hour north of Tampa. We went through two of these in 2004 on two consecutive Saturdays. One was a category 1 when it hit my town the other was a tropical storm. We got some wind driven water under the front door with the tropical storm but nothing with the hurricane. Go figure. My wife's nephew and his wife just had a baby and they live in the Keys. It is their first year in Florida and I told him you will have to evacuate. He thinks he can ride it out but he changed his mind when I educated him on storm surge and the fact that the keys will be hit hard. Governor Crist has already declared a state of emergency for the whole state. We recently got some liberal neighbors that are nice enough but when they saw my NRA decal I caught a little flack. I just talked to them this morning and they are now worried about their safety concerning looters and such if we get a big hit. They remember the news reel footage of post Andrew Miami-Dade. We told them they can come over if they want. All of a sudden the guns were a bit of a comfort. :D
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bragood
August 16, 2008, 07:11 PM
Hey maybe you can convert them!

jdc1244
August 16, 2008, 07:21 PM
Iím taking a wait-and-see here in Polk Ė I always have supplies ready because we often loose power with a heavy thunderstorm. The Ďcane guns (AKs and SKSs) are also ready. :)

Nimble1
August 16, 2008, 07:22 PM
We live on an island just west of Ft.Myers between the mainland and Sanibel. We made it through Charlie (hit 13 miles north of us) with minimal damage, just hoping this one misses us. Spent the afternoon tying the boat up and starting on the rest of the stuff tomorrow and Monday.
Sure hope it misses us but it has to hit somebody!:(

myrockfight
August 16, 2008, 07:25 PM
Hey there FLA! I am in south St. Pete. It certainly sounds like you have a couple possibles in the works.

I was wondering if we were going to get pasted or not. My fingers are going to be crossed for the next 36 hours. Do you guys have any plans to get out of Dodge if need be? I may be traveling a bit north at least.

Dave P
August 16, 2008, 07:48 PM
On the east coast barrier island, I don't think I will do anything except tie down some plywood in the back yard. OK, I will gas up.

Unless it shifts some more...

onebigelf
August 16, 2008, 10:31 PM
Up in Gainesville. Fairly well set. I'm mounting the backup pump on the well tomorrow. Water is really the only limitation we have. I've got food for 3 for 6 months anyway!

John

FLA2760
August 17, 2008, 10:20 PM
We are expecting the storm Tue night into Wed am. Forecasting Cat 1 but that can change. My buddy is a patrol deputy here and they are calling everyone in to work.

D.C.
August 17, 2008, 10:28 PM
I'm in Pensacola. We're watching closely to see what it's gonna do. I'm getting my family prepared anyways. I'm a corrections officer and will probably be on the compound when the storm gets to our parts. This is almost as much fun as a root canal!

iwilc2
August 17, 2008, 10:35 PM
just moved to central Florida last week, this will be our first BIG storm, have a bunch of food and water, will be waiting to see what happens. LEN

Bill2e
August 17, 2008, 10:36 PM
I too went throught the Hat triclk of 04. Charley, Francis & Jean.

My uncle live in the keys, tell your nephew to get out early if they are gonna leave. It is a Pain to get out, everyone waits till the last min & the traffic is bad.

FLA2760
August 17, 2008, 10:50 PM
Len welcome to Florida. We have been here 11 years now and we were in the Poconos for a while before moving here. Stock up on batteries and water and foods that need no refrigeration. If you and yours take any prescription meds make sure you have enough. In 2004 when Frances came through power was out for a week here.

iwilc2
August 17, 2008, 10:58 PM
Hey FLA2760, thanks for the welcome, we also bought batteries, and a portable weather radio and a few other thing to hopefully make it through in case it gets a little rough. LEN

rayman
August 17, 2008, 11:01 PM
I just moved to Jacksonville. I hope this one isn't too serious. The kids start school tomorrow...

cbrgator
August 17, 2008, 11:12 PM
Been in South Florida for almost 24 years (since day 1), so I've seen it all, calm quiet years on to Andrew and Wilma. Prepare adequately but this one shouldn't be anything to worry about.

FLA2760
August 17, 2008, 11:15 PM
Hey Rayman Jacksonville should be ok.

rayman
August 17, 2008, 11:26 PM
thanks FLA2760

mbt2001
August 18, 2008, 08:37 AM
Good luck and God Bless!

Hope everything comes out OK for you guys.

We recently got some liberal neighbors that are nice enough but when they saw my NRA decal I caught a little flack.

I have never understood the logic of people like that. I focus on the word "recently", which means that they just moved in near you. So, the first thing they do, instead of trying to be neighborly and get the "lay of the land" is the criticize your membership in the NRA. Conversation these days always degrades to the lowest common denominator because manners are dead, courtesy is a lost art... He opened his pie hole was critical of you, but had you turned around and said "SHUT UP HIPPY" you would have been the rude one... :banghead:

XDKingslayer
August 18, 2008, 08:57 AM
just moved to central Florida last week, this will be our first BIG storm, have a bunch of food and water, will be waiting to see what happens. LEN

Len, I moved to Florida from Pa. also. NW Pa, Warren to be exact. Then we took Charley right up the pooper. Don't let it get to you.

I'm as ready as I'll ever be. I spent 3 hours getting the generator running. It hasn't been run since Charley and was locking up at the top of it's stroke. Figured it was a ring of rust so I dumped some oil down the spark plug hole and turned the crank over with the impact. That did the trick. Pulled the bowl off the carb and it was a rusty mess. Cleaned the carb all up, threw in a new spark plug and she fired on the third pull.

The 8:00 am reports put it right back on track to hit Port Charlotte...

230RN
August 18, 2008, 09:44 AM
^ Change out the fuel in the tank. Slosh the old fuel around when you dump it. Or at the very least dump some gas drier in there.

Change out fuel filter, too.

You've probably got rust in the tank and engine vibration will stir it up and it will get into the feed line.

Don't ask me how I know.

hso
August 18, 2008, 09:44 AM
Folks, try to keep it gun related. As the OP said, it is certainly interesting with Anti neighbors suddenly look to the "gun nut" for reassurance. Don't miss the opportunity to re-educate these folks.

The FEMA website has good information on storm prep, but they don't talk about firearms issues at all.

We've had members loose their whole collection to Mother Nature and we've had others preserve theirs. We've had members find out their insurance company wouldn't cover their guns and we've had others find they did, but under specific circumstances. While getting ready try to find out if your insurance company does cover your collection, video/image the whole collection for recovery/insurance reasons, work up some storage options to secure your guns against wind/water and figure out what you want to take if you have to evacuate.

divemedic
August 18, 2008, 09:45 AM
This one is mild. Don't worry about it. They are not even activating the Emergency teams. We got a prealert yesterday, but we are not expecting to be called in.

Old Guy
August 18, 2008, 10:05 AM
We moved to Orlando Dec 2003, had no damage in the storms, but MILD! is OK as a wish, but not as an instruction.

Back on track, the pick up truck boys will be out and about, plywood on windows? No vehicles? the thieves will be active, if you are home, and dressed, good foot wear is a must while at home, go armed all the time, gun, extra mag, flashlight on belt. Lock blade on clip, we all carry them all the time anyway!

Copper is the big new precious metal, your A/C has a load of it! Keep an eye out.

We have a marked Security Vehicle (Jeep) when not working the odd drive around brings to light "Just looking for Auntie May" replies to "can I help you" comments. Only one way in or out helps as well.


Did I mention carry?

eric.cartman
August 18, 2008, 11:42 AM
Hi! South East Florida Here! Fort Lauderdale to be exact, and right by the ocean... so first ones to go :uhoh:

Anyways, got full tanks of gas in both cars (filled up last night).
10 galons of water. Canned food for 5 days. 100 rounds of .45, 100 rounds of 9mm.

Should be ready for anything :cool:

Fish Miner
August 18, 2008, 11:47 AM
Better safe then sorry- I think the schools will close so more folks will be out and about. Have your gear and BUG bags high and dry.

I just picked up a .410 SxS from a forum member on Friday so the wife now has her hurricane emergency shotgun. (and I have my new small game gun :)

Stay safe and vigilent, watch for folks crusing your street looking for damage-and opertunity....

divemedic
August 18, 2008, 12:03 PM
My prediction- very little damage. Mild. This is a responder to over 12 storms talking. At most some beach erosion and some localized flooding. The winds we are talking about here will be similar to one of the afternoon thunderstorms we get here all the time.

No reason for anyone here to freak out. There is a VERY big difference between a 70 mile per hour storm and a Katrina style 130 mile per hour storm.

tigre
August 18, 2008, 02:26 PM
Eh, I've got food for a couple weeks and plenty of water and other supplies, and don't think for a second I'll need any of it for this one. I'm a little concerned about my plants on the patio, but that's it. I'll probably fill up my truck on the way back from the range tonight, just out of general cautiousness (see, that was gun related!).

ilbob
August 18, 2008, 02:29 PM
I'm in Pensacola. We're watching closely to see what it's gonna do. I'm getting my family prepared anyways. I'm a corrections officer and will probably be on the compound when the storm gets to our parts. This is almost as much fun as a root canal!Just curious. What do they do with the prisoners during the storm? Lockdown?

Templar223
August 18, 2008, 03:00 PM
Better be ready.

John

FLA2760
August 18, 2008, 03:52 PM
I just got some ammo I ordered two weeks ago today. I had the AK out earlier to lube and get it ready just in case. The new neighbor (Mike) comes over with DD coffee and when he sees the AK the color left his face .LOL When he realized he was not going to be shot he relaxed and we start drinking the coffee. He asks "were you in the military or something"and I answer the "militia" and we discuss the 2nd Amendment. He thinks the Constitution is a "living document" that should be molded to the times, (Clinton). I tell him that I am an "originalist"and that our society should be shaped around the principles presented in the Constitution. He thinks that the police and military are the only ones "qualified" to handle and have weapons. I then tell him that the police do their best but are rarely right there when you need them. I told him of my long time friend who is a patrol deputy here and a big fan of CCW and the Castle doctrine. He has seen a lot of situations where had the victims been armed they would have fared much better than they did. I ask if he is aware of the recent Heller decision and he says not really. I fill him in on the Justice's decision and he seemed interested. I printed up some stuff from the NRA that I had re Heller and he took it. He and his wife are from Suffolk County NY. He is a retired accountant. He brought up the shooting on the LIRR (Colin Ferguson) and I commented it never would have gone as far as it did had a fellow passenger(s) been legally armed. He left with the material I gave him on Heller. They are coming over later for a pre hurricane BBQ. Will let you know how it goes.

Dan Forrester
August 18, 2008, 04:07 PM
I hope it moves more towards the East so that I can get more action. Iíve lived through 4 direct hits where I was in the eye of the storm and probably twice that many where Iíve experienced the outer fringes. One was a category 1 and 3 were cat 3s. The cat 3s were my favorites, but Iíve enjoyed every single one of them in one way or another.

This thing is a big nothing! But I guess thatís best for the vast majority of people out there.

Dan

CDignition
August 18, 2008, 04:17 PM
All I did was bring a shotty home from the shop, and gassed up trucks and generator.. I'm in Sarasota, so it is hit or miss now..

LegalAlien
August 18, 2008, 04:26 PM
Been through 4 of these already with Francis and Jean being the most memorable ones. Backend of Wilma held an unexpected surprize when the southbound cold front accellarated it.

This one is less likely to develop into anything of significance. The sooner it leaves the warm Gulf waters and come on land, the less powerful it is going to be.

If it tracks on more of a northern course and stays over the Gulf and the warm water longer, it might strengthen and any of the areas NW of Tampa might get a more powerful storm than currently forecast.

If it tracks N and then turn NE and comes on land in SW FL, it might come on land as a cat 1 and should then start slowing down back to TS very soon after.

feedthehogs
August 18, 2008, 04:35 PM
Unload the Ak's and shotguns, Katrina or Andrew this ain't.

Sorry to spoil the fun but the end of the world isn't here yet, so mall ninjas put away your pajamas.

FLA2760
August 18, 2008, 04:37 PM
HSO Wrote,
"The FEMA website has good information on storm prep, but they don't talk about firearms issues at all.

We've had members loose their whole collection to Mother Nature and we've had others preserve theirs. We've had members find out their insurance company wouldn't cover their guns and we've had others find they did, but under specific circumstances. While getting ready try to find out if your insurance company does cover your collection, video/image the whole collection for recovery/insurance reasons, work up some storage options to secure your guns against wind/water and figure out what you want to take if you have to evacuate."

+1 to all that. Thanks

FLA2760
August 18, 2008, 04:40 PM
feedthehogs wrote,
"Sorry to spoil the fun but the end of the world isn't here yet, so mall ninjas put away your pajamas." No one ever intimated that this was an eschatological event.
Mall ninja? Please.

Old Guy
August 18, 2008, 05:00 PM
Stay safe and vigilent, watch for folks crusing your street looking for damage-and opertunity....

You can just cruise around as well!

g.willikers
August 18, 2008, 06:45 PM
We have bottled water, canned food and a sturdy bed to hide under.
If there are looters about, my wife will protect me.
All is well.

jdc1244
August 18, 2008, 07:30 PM
Unload the Ak's and shotguns, Katrina or Andrew this ain't.

Sorry to spoil the fun but the end of the world isn't here yet, so mall ninjas put away your pajamas.

Youíve obviously never been through a storm in a rural area. Here in the country even a minor trop storm can cause power outages for several hours, perhaps days. In fact, the power company turns off the juice before the storm arrives to lessen damage and prevent injury. A dark, isolated rural community with LE miles away is tempting to looters. Iíll be prepared all the same, thanks.

Guns and more
August 18, 2008, 08:12 PM
just moved to central Florida last week, this will be our first BIG storm, have a bunch of food and water, will be waiting to see what happens. LEN
Sorry, but this isn't a big storm. You are going to say, "that wasn't so bad", but don't get complacent. I'll never forget a co-worker describing Andrew; he said they were laying on the floor watching pieces of asphalt shingles fire through the exterior walls and lodge in the interior walls like bullets. I don't want to be there.

Katana8869
August 18, 2008, 10:08 PM
This isn't going to be a bad one. We are just making common sense preparation here at my place. I filled both cars with gas, and took stock of the water and food items. I'm not in "emergency mode" firearms wise. My .357 and j-frame .38 snub are loaded along with a couple of speedloaders for each, my Mossberg is loaded with extra rounds available in it's sidesaddle. Pretty much just a normal night firearms wise!

If they say it is going cat1 and heading into Tampa I may ramp things up a little, but I don't see that happening and neither, it seems, does anyone else.

For bad storms we always gather at my Mom's house which was built by my Grandfather in 1955. That house is built to take a pretty serious pounding. I usually keep my AK, Remington 870 and my .45's stored there along with the bulk of my ammo stash during the storm season. I just cleaned and lubed them all last weekend so, they are good to go if needed.

I just hope that my employer gets nervous enough to close shop tommorow or Wendsday so that I can spend the day drinking "hurricane beer" and watching the breeze blow. lol ;)

bogie
August 19, 2008, 01:10 PM
The media seems to firmly believe that ordinary citizens aren't capable of dealing with a bit of weather.

Ever since New Orleans, hurricanes are a news lead. Even if they aren't really all that "hurricane."

divemedic
August 20, 2008, 01:16 PM
Mild?
We moved to Orlando Dec 2003, had no damage in the storms, but MILD! is OK as a wish, but not as an instruction.

Back on track, the pick up truck boys will be out and about, plywood on windows? No vehicles? the thieves will be active, if you are home, and dressed, good foot wear is a must while at home, go armed all the time, gun, extra mag, flashlight on belt. Lock blade on clip, we all carry them all the time anyway!

Copper is the big new precious metal, your A/C has a load of it! Keep an eye out.

We have a marked Security Vehicle (Jeep) when not working the odd drive around brings to light "Just looking for Auntie May" replies to "can I help you" comments. Only one way in or out helps as well.


Like I said- It was MILD. No need for the mall ninjas to break out the tactical golfcarts. The answer to every problem is NOT to break out the guns.

XDKingslayer
August 20, 2008, 01:48 PM
I had hoped this storm would at least be powerful enough to blow the pine needles off the top of my shed so I didn't have to climb up there and sweep them off this weekend.

No such luck...

cbrgator
August 20, 2008, 11:47 PM
Well, I could understand where you guys are coming from who live in the very rural areas, but I've lived in SoFla my whole life. It's very urban so a tropical storm poses next to no threat. I take only the most basic precautions until its starts getting into category 3 range. Then I start worrying.

Bill2e
August 20, 2008, 11:55 PM
Say what you want, but it is raing like heck here.

Old Guy
August 22, 2008, 08:05 AM
Well! It is one heck of a tropical storm! Just stays and stays, swirls round and round, on patrol for 4 hours last night, rained and blowing! Small bushy trees down, tolls suspended! so the Thruway authority must think its bad, not giving money away seems to be their normal MO.

8AM at this time, the storm is still here, just swirling around, twice the width of Florida!! constant rain.

It is not going anywhere. Well we wanted rain... 10 inches?

WVleo
August 22, 2008, 08:12 AM
Well Sister in Pine Island,Fla did ok , but son over in Melbourne got alot of rain but His home stayed dry. Hey Nimble 1 ever been to Auston's Diner/resturant . Tell them leo sent You and say Hi to Jackie Sue owner LOL.....WVleo

Bubbles
August 22, 2008, 08:31 AM
I hope y'all are staying dry down there. For a storm that wasn't supposed to be a big deal, it sure looks like it's taking a toll on FL since it just won't move along.

divemedic
August 22, 2008, 12:49 PM
It still isn't that big of a deal. There is a limited amount of flooding, but in Florida that happens even during the summer. The majority of flooding is occurring in rural areas and a couple of trailer parks. Sure, we got rain, but in a normal summer, we get rain every day.

The last couple of years have been very dry, and we were in drought conditions until recently. The lakes were down, and we are still on water restrictions. (Because of the drought, we are only allowed to water lawns on a set schedule, depending on your address. Watering is only permitted 2 days a week) We needed the rain, and even with this storm, we are still below normal for rainfall this year.

That is why we have not seen any significant mosquitoes for the last couple of years. Our total rainfall deficit for the last two years is over 25 inches. This storm is averaging 12 inches (although some areas have gotten as much as 25) so we are still behind.

XDKingslayer
August 22, 2008, 01:04 PM
It's been raining pretty much continiously all day today and we're 300 miles away from it.

Katana8869
August 22, 2008, 09:01 PM
Pretty much a steady rain here since last night. Winds aren't bad, but driving to work across Pasco County to Tampa via I-75 this morning was pretty hairy.
Tampa had showers through the day, but there was no rain there when I got out of work. The ride home wasn't bad at all.

Looks like more rain through the weekend, so I'll just be hanging around the house cruising the gun boards and catching up on my reloading. :)

craig
August 22, 2008, 09:28 PM
the wind's just starting to pick up here. the rain should hit about the time i go to work.:cuss:

i got my supplies back in june, the shelter's ready if there's a tornado warning so i'm set.

HeadlandRam
August 22, 2008, 09:40 PM
Hope everyone in my home-state (Florida) will be fine. Here in Dothan/Headland we just got some wind and rain not to long ago

rayman
August 22, 2008, 10:50 PM
We Survived.

Neocode
August 22, 2008, 10:57 PM
It still isn't that big of a deal. There is a limited amount of flooding, but in Florida that happens even during the summer. The majority of flooding is occurring in rural areas and a couple of trailer parks. Sure, we got rain, but in a normal summer, we get rain every day.

The last couple of years have been very dry, and we were in drought conditions until recently. The lakes were down, and we are still on water restrictions. (Because of the drought, we are only allowed to water lawns on a set schedule, depending on your address. Watering is only permitted 2 days a week) We needed the rain, and even with this storm, we are still below normal for rainfall this year.

That is why we have not seen any significant mosquitoes for the last couple of years. Our total rainfall deficit for the last two years is over 25 inches. This storm is averaging 12 inches (although some areas have gotten as much as 25) so we are still behind.

I got plenty of skeeters over here... you want a few? :p

Old Guy
August 22, 2008, 11:26 PM
This circle of rain, thunder storms, wind up to 60 mph, is a big circle, around 200 miles across! and just keeps circling around.

The coverage is huge! The forecast for the next 7 days? Rain every day.

Must say it beats 6 months of snow though!

TeamPrecisionIT
August 22, 2008, 11:33 PM
I am so glad I moved, I don't know if I could take a week long hurricane! I would lose my mind with the flu like I did in 2004. Anyway, I have heard of some pretty serious flooding in some more rural areas, so I hope everyone is safe and accounted for. And I am pretty sure its okay to lighten the 'ready' arsenal by now unless you are in one of the flooded zones (if looting is a problem there).

Damian

Zip7
August 23, 2008, 12:16 AM
That thing looks like it's committed to soaking the whole state too! I just saw the weather. It's headed Louisiana way, so I guess we'll be getting dumped on soon.

pharmer
August 23, 2008, 10:45 AM
It's been raining since Monday. I'm not thinking about my guns as much as building an ark. I did step out awhile ago to see the sun for the first time in a week. At least the drought is over. Good luck N Fla/ gulf coast. Fay is like an old girlfriend you're done with but she doesn't think so. Joe

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