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black_powder_Rob
August 16, 2008, 11:59 PM
Okay so i have been shooting cap n balls revs. for a little while now and was looking at getting into flintlock rifles. I was wondering what is a good brand to start with that is reasonably priced and of good quality to hunt with (deer and hog). Any advice would be helpful.

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Sunray
August 17, 2008, 01:18 AM
What type of rifle you're looking at matters. Most manufacturers make the same rifle in flint and percussion. If you have a percussion Hawken, you can have the same rifle in a flintlock.
I'm looking at flintlocks too. Mind you, I'm also on a big learning curve with a small budget. Been a milsurp battle rifle guy for eons. Don't need our idiot permits for a flintlock.
Anyway, Lyman(Highly respected from what I've seen on-line) makes several models. Starting at $424.95 for their 24" barreled Deerstalker. .50 or .54 calibre. Same rifle comes in SS too. Their Great Plains Hunter(Hawken style), 32" barrel, runs $664.95US. It's the model I really want, other than a Brown Bess(at least a grand USD with no bayonet). They come in a build it yourself kit too. $524.95US.
Traditions rifles aren't ugly price wise though. They make a .50 cal Pennsylvania for $650. Everything else runs considerably more money. Most Kentucky and Pennsylvania rifles can be mucho expensive. Usually depends on who made it and the stock wood.
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lymanproducts/index.htm
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/index.asp

mykeal
August 17, 2008, 06:52 AM
Lyman's Great Plains Rifle is an excellent first flintlock. It's available at a good discount from Midsouth Shooter's Supply (http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/deptsearch3x.asp?dept=%4D%55%5A%5A%4C%45%4C%4F%41%44%49%4E%47&dept2=%4D%55%5A%5A%4C%45%4C%4F%41%44%49%4E%47%20%52%49%46%4C%45%53&dept3=%35%30%20%43%41%4C).
That same site also sells the Thompson Center Hawken flintlock, which comes with a lifetime warranty (hence the higher price). Another very nice flintlock, excellent for a first one.
Lyman and Thompson Center have better reputations for quality than Traditions, but I'm not so sure that's deserved. There are few complaints about their guns and I'd give them a good look before I eliminated them. They have more models and some are very nicely done, with a price to match.

By the way, the Lyman Deerstalker stainless is percussion only.

.38 Special
August 17, 2008, 12:36 PM
I've had very good success with Pedersoli guns. Take a look at the Pedersoli Kentucky rifles offered through Cabela's.

black_powder_Rob
August 17, 2008, 01:17 PM
Thanks for the input I am looking at a deer hunter from Traditions. Looks pretty good and definatley like the price.

scrat
August 17, 2008, 01:22 PM
dont forget to look at cabellas they usually have some very good prices there

4v50 Gary
August 17, 2008, 04:20 PM
I'd go with the Lyman Great Plains rifle. Quality & price.

Loyalist Dave
August 17, 2008, 04:41 PM
For the price, the Lyman is currently the best OTC flintlock for the buck, and I have tried them all, trust me. The Blue Ridge Hunter from Cabela's is a good rifle, and would be my second recommendation. (My first recommendation IF a person has to have a full stocked longrifle)

A T/C would be my third recommendation, but their flintlock lock is a bit clunky, and often needs minor adjustment. The Traditions I got had a very weak lock. They make a very good caplock, as does T/C, but one cannot skimp on lock construction with a flinter and have good results. Both T/C and Traditions seem to be good caplock makers who then adapted a caplock to flintlock while trying to keep costs down. (oops).

Dixie seems a bit pricey, what with semi-custom makers producing comperably priced rifles with much better components at the same price.

Pedersoli is waaaay overpriced with their muskets and trade guns. For the same price one can get a very good semi-custom fusil or trade gun, and even a good semi-custom longrifle. (For a $1000 price tag you'd think they could properly harden a frizzen!) If you want a military musket, Loyalist Arms in Canada is marketing a much better copy of a Bess, very shootable, and with a bayonet is $300 cheaper than the Pedersoli.


FINALLY ...., IF ......, the flint-bug bites you hard and you want to upgrade to a better gun than your first choice..., check with local clubs and guys who shoot 'em. You may find a shooter or two who are looking to give one of their well cared for rifles to a good home for a very reasonable price.

LD

gizamo
August 17, 2008, 07:00 PM
I have a few customs, and a few off the shelf flintlocks...

Unlike LoyalistDave, I would recommend the new Pedersoli's...

Fit and finish are excellent, as are the barrels and works...and the price is reasonable, considering the quality....

Giz

black_powder_Rob
August 18, 2008, 09:21 PM
okay so i now have found the rifle i want just have to save up a bit fer it. Thanks for all of the impunt guys, I am going with the "blue ridge" that Cabela offers.

.38 Special
August 18, 2008, 09:28 PM
I have a Blue Ridge in .36 caliber. It has given reliable service for more than a decade.

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