Terminology question. Is there a term for this?


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RX-178
August 17, 2008, 08:23 AM
Is there a generally agreed upon term to describe self-defense against wild animals, as opposed to actual hunting, or self-defense against human attackers?


Is there a generally agreed upon term to describe the WEAPONS that would be suitable for this, again, as opposed to a hunting rifle?

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hotshotshoting
August 17, 2008, 08:29 AM
when dealing with animals that can kill you people usually depend on big bore pistols, or shotguns... at least thats my personal opinion

markk
August 17, 2008, 08:35 AM
Perhaps the term "field gun" would explain what you are trying to express...

RX-178
August 17, 2008, 08:48 AM
Field gun sounds good, although maybe a little too general-purpose in sound. I guess I really should have explained what I need the terminology for.


Sometime next month, I am to begin filming a Youtube series on practical firearms self-defense, aimed primarily towards beginners and people unfamilliar with firearms.

Basic safety and terminology will be explained, how to get a proper sight picture with various kinds of iron sights, as well as what to look for in a weapon for home defense, carry on your person, carry in a car (with appropriate disclaimer text on the screen telling viewers to look up state and local laws in applicable topics, of course!, etc.



Due to my job, I have to fly to and from Taiwan often, and sometime in the next few months, one of these flights will take me through Anchorage Alaska, where I intend to stay for a while, and film an 'episode' about self-defense against wild animals (and hopefully able to get an interview on the subject with Wild West Guns. If anyone knows their stuff on this subject, they're it.)

Apple a Day
August 17, 2008, 09:33 AM
Predator defense? That might work. I think it says what it means.

RX-178
August 17, 2008, 09:36 AM
That has potential.


Although it also brings to mind defending yourself from an alien hunter with thermal vision and a personal cloaking device. :D

(mostly joking, but this series IS intended for the firearms-uneducated).


Edit: Also, moose aren't predators, but they're generally more dangerous than bears are in Alaska.

SCKimberFan
August 17, 2008, 09:41 AM
Predator defense? That might work. I think it says what it means.

That could also mean stopping a BG!

RX-178
August 17, 2008, 09:51 AM
It could at that.

And I really need to find an easy, generally agreed upon term when explaining where Ruger Super Redhawks (and similar weapons) are suitable for self defense.

'Self-defense against animals' is just really wordy for saying on-screen multiple times.

Jim Watson
August 17, 2008, 09:54 AM
In Alaska, the shorthand term is "bear gun."

novaDAK
August 17, 2008, 09:58 AM
I've heard:

Bear gun

woods gun

field gun

brush gun

etc.

ArmedLiberal
August 17, 2008, 09:59 AM
Please include in your animal self defense video statistics of animal attacks. It's incredibly rare. Look it up. There are thousands of posts asking what is the appropriate firearm for defense against bears, for instance, for every bear attack in the last hundred years.

It's fun to talk about, and it adds to the excitement of preparing for wilderness travel. But please don't shoot that bear that just wants to get away from your awful smell and be left alone.

You're far, far more likely to have trouble with encounters with humans out in the woods than with animals.

AL

RX-178
August 17, 2008, 10:08 AM
Well, I'm not intending to make this episode about bears, or intending to show bears as real dangerous threat if you're out in the woods.

A more common scenario is probably going to be a MOOSE attack on your vehicle as it's stopped at a red light near the city limits. In fact, I hear that's not ENTIRELY uncommon in Anchorage parking lots either.

But the same weapons are suitable in either encounter.


And the rarity of the encounters (and of people likely to FACE these encounters) is definitely going to be brought up as a reason why this kind of weapon is usually quite pricey.

eflatminor
August 17, 2008, 11:03 AM
They're called ________ guns, with the 'blank' being the name of the predator you're protecting yourself against. In Alaska, it's bears. In other parts of the world, it might a lion gun or a snake gun. Depends on where you find yourself.

Jim Watson
August 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
Pricey?

The last I saw, the Alaska fish and game people carried pump shotguns loaded with Brenneke slugs.

The custom takedown .45-70s are for the well heeled.

MinnMooney
August 17, 2008, 01:17 PM
Whatever you do.... DON'T shoot a Griz in Montana! There is almost no reason that the DNR will accept from you if you shoot one. You'd better have your foot or head in it's mouth when the DNR arrives or you'll get a fine, jail term and/or your gun confiscated.
they warn you to carry bear repellant, pepper spray.

Guns and more
August 17, 2008, 01:29 PM
Wilderness gun?

BillyBothHands
August 17, 2008, 01:40 PM
for hogs maybe pig popper? or boar blower awayer?

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