Browning Hi-power Price / Value...


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Fire-4-Effect
August 17, 2008, 05:50 PM
I have wanted a good steel 9mm pistol for some time now and was about to purchase a CZ-75B. When I went to the gun store to make the purchase he just got in a barely used Browning Hi-Power. He was selling it for $599.00. So, now I have a dilemma... that seems cheap for a like new Hi-Power. They both feel great in my hand. The CZ has night sights and is stainless. BUT, I have heard such good things about the hi-power and this seems like such a great deal. Is the hi-power worth it? By not getting the CZ I will miss out on that cool 22 lr conversion kit.

What would you guys do?

PR

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huntershooter
August 17, 2008, 06:11 PM
I'd get the BHP.

atblis
August 17, 2008, 06:43 PM
Get which ever one you like more. It's really a toss up. Hi Powers are decent. If you're thinking they'll in some way shoot more accurately or be more reliable than other decent guns you'll be disappointed. It's pretty much a matter of which one fits your hand better.

I've owned both, and truthfully I don't care for the Hi Power. They never seem to be as accurate as my CZs and not as reliable either. Could be luck of the draw I guess. Don't know.

that seems cheap for a like new Hi-Power.
Ehhhh, assuming it's a basic Hi Power, that actually sounds a touch high, but not outrageous. It really depends though.

thegoodfight
August 17, 2008, 07:23 PM
Hi Powers are cool guns, but CZs are probably just as good. BHP have a cult like following just like CZ. Both will probably be about as reliable and last as long as the other.

atblis
August 17, 2008, 07:25 PM
CZ will easily out last a HiPower. Not saying Hipowers are extremely fragile, just that CZs are rather robust when it comes to pounding out some rounds.

98% of gun owners will never shoot enough rounds to get a major component in either to fail.

Beagle-zebub
August 17, 2008, 08:10 PM
Like the 1911, the Hi-Power has historical appeal, being the pistol of choice for NATO and every other non-communist, non-1911 user, and being designed to a certain extent by JMB. Also to its credit, it is pretty darn slim, I'm lead to understand.

Fire-4-Effect
August 17, 2008, 08:28 PM
I thought the price was good as gunbroker did not have a great selection. I have found a few for around $499 but they were used. When I added shipping and FFL transfer fee they came in close to the same.

Seems like people think I should get the CZ instead. I have held both in my hand for a while and dry fired both. Here is a question: Which one has a better trigger pull? I had a hard time telling in the gun shop.

Thanks

PR

belus
August 17, 2008, 08:49 PM
Ultimately it's a toss up. I bet you'll end up owning both at some point if you like one.

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ-75%20or%20BHP.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Browning%20and%20CZ.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ75.htm

The BHP's trigger is generally worse than the CZ's out of the box, but has more potential. The BHP is also a bit slimmer, which makes it easier to conceal... not by a ton, but noticeable.

atblis
August 18, 2008, 10:57 AM
That may be a good price. It depends.

What exactly is it? Belgian, Belgian/Portuguese, etc. etc.

I think that a pretty older one 60's, 70's maybe would certainly go for that.

One of the newer production Belgian/Portuguese ones, probably 500ish.
Argentine $400-$500 or so if it is nice
Hungarian, $250

Search on Gunbroker, but search for "completed auctions" and sort by number of bids so that you look at auctions that have 1 or more bids.

RPCVYemen
August 18, 2008, 03:32 PM
Can you test fire/handle them?

HP's are very cool, but the only two I have fired have had really crappy triggers. Yes, they were single action, but they were heavier and rougher than any DA I have shot.

One was a rental that probably still had the magazine safety, the other had definitely had the magazine safety removed.

I know that there are people on THR who love them, and report their HP's have great triggers, so maybe it's just the two I handled. Or maybe the ones people like have had lots of work don on them. I don't know.

After firing the 2nd one, I picked up an AR 24 (all steel CZ-75) for less than the price you are showing for the HP.

Mike

GP100
August 18, 2008, 04:08 PM
Pryker: Your question on trigger pull is hard to compare as BHP is Single action gun and most CZ's are DA/SA. CZ is probably more rugged and SA trigger on HP is probably very heavy if it's on a newer one. Older HP's had lighter trigger pulls till the lawyers took over the world. My vote would by the CZ. In fact, I traded a MKIII recently for a CZ75 and could not be happier.....

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