[3pairs12]

Does anybody use one? I have used them for several years but I am thinking of switching to a drp away. It seems that this would help improve speed and accuracy. Any opions on this?

[Kingcreek]

I haven't been using one for the past 2 seasons. I went to a drop-away with a capture. I think mine is Vital Bow Gear.

[3pairs12]

do you prefer it? did you notice a difference in perfomance?

[Kingcreek]

I got along fine with the bisquit but I modified mine by cutting 3 wedges out of the whiskers for more fletching clearance. I get a little better performance (ie slightly better groups) from the drop-away and I think there is maybe a little less noise at draw and release. For a strictly hunting rig, I'm not sure I would bother changing it out and spending a hundred bucks if the whisker is working.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Yeah, I use them. I prefer capture rests over others because if you move your bow a bit without them, your arrow can fall off and hit your shelf and make a noise - bye bye game. Or worse the broadhead ends up in your foot or other part of your body - I just like the assurance that my arrow with the razor sharp junk at the end will stay where it's supposed to.

I actually like the Golden Key Futura "funnel rest" a bit better than the biscuit - the Futura is what's on my Hoyt. But same concept.

http://www.fastestbows.com/reviews/gk_funnel.htm

http://www.ez-gym.net/NewProducts/001-GFK-FuynnelRest.html

I get fine accuracy with both. Haven't chrono'd, but being quiet is a lot more important than arrow speed.

[3pairs12]

I just feel like my bisquit isn't the quietest thing in the world and it has to be losing speed. I like the idea of cutting some wedges out may try that. Not strictly a hunting bow my buddies have some pretty stiff comptetions with each other. I like to break their knocks.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

my bisquit isn't the quietest thing in the world and it has to be losing speed

The bolded part matters - A LOT!

The other thing matters, not at all.

All arrows are subsonic. If the animal hears the shot, it can jump the string - whether your arrow is going 200 or 400 fps is irrelevant. If the animal does not hear the shot, OR if the animal hears the shot but it's quiet enough that its reaction is just to take a gander nonchalantly rather than become immediately alerted and jump string, then you've got a hit.

I don't know how much noise they create relative to a fall-away rest, but I think you're right - they probably do create a little more noise. Thanks for bringing this up - I'm going to look into it. I want my bows quiet, and maybe I'm at a disadvantage here with the biscuit and funnel rest. Of course the string component of noise is the far more likely culprit, if your string isn't dampened.

Oh, one more thing: Make sure that your biscuit hole opening MATCHES your arrow diameter! It will surely slow your arrow down a lot if you have a thick arrow and the biscuit model for a thin arrow. My buddy had that situation last year - he bought a bow with a biscuit made for thin carbons, but was using thicker arrows, and the friction was very high. Also the other way around is no good. If the hole is too large, then the arrow flops around and can affect accuracy. I believe there are 3 hole sizes of biscuits, in addition to all the other variations between the many models.

[3pairs12]

Definitely using the right size bisquit for my arrow dia. I swear when the vanes go through I can hear em pretty clear. Had a doe here it @ 20yds and duck my arrow last year. But if I can pick up a few fps in the process of making the switch than sweet.

[CZ.22]

What the hell is a whisker biscuit?

[3pairs12]

arrow rest shaped like a bisquit made of whiskers. seriuosly.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh175/steere12/whiskerbisquit.jpg

[gregormeister]

I enjoy my whisker biscuit ....You all can keep your drop aways and anything else this is my second year with the biscuit and 12th year bow hunting I wouldn't trade it for nothing..
If the indians did it with sticks and leather strings I can do it with 60 lbs. fiber sights and a whisker biscuit

[220_Swift]

I used a WB for three years, then switched to a drop away last year. I am going back to the WB this year. Accuracy was not noticably different with the drop away, and I prefer the WB because it holds the arrow in place. It seemed like every time I moved my bow around in stand the arrow was coming off the drop away.

[Kingcreek]

before you switch rests...
Use a sharp exacto knife to cut away whiskers at their base so you have 3 open spaces and 3 wedges of fibers all of equal size. I have the support of one wedge at the 6 oclock position and shoot cockvane up at 12. You will get almost total fletching clearance and less noise at release and still have enough to capture and support the arrow shaft. I'm assuming you shoot release? finger shooting might need the support of a full bisquit- Don't know as I haven't tried it.
If you don't like it, you can pop in a replacement bisquit for a few bucks to get back to where you were or you can spend another $100 for a new drop-away.
220, some drop away rests will capture the arrow and not allow it to slip off. my VBG does this very well.

[3pairs12]

I think I will try that. Best archery tip I have heard in years. Thanks

[Chrome]

I have one of the Hostage whisker biscuits by BowTech (or Octane your choice) on my TomKat.

It's a very nice rest, and seems to be a bit quieter than a normal one. I will most likely switch to a drop away next year though. The benefits are more than just being more quiet.

Later,
Chrome...

[mgregg85]

I love my whisker biscuit and wouldn't trade it for any lousy drop away rest.

I used a drop away for a few years and lost a couple of shots because of my arrow dropping when I started to draw. No such problems with the biscuit.

I'm a pretty crappy archer anyways so all of my shots are close. I've never had a deer have a chance to move if they heard the shot.

[ImARugerFan]

Whisker biscuit is the way to go for hunting. You can move around as much as you want and have no worry about the arrow coming off. I climb the tree, knock an arrow, and forget about it. Heck you can even walk through the woods with an arrow knocked, try that with a drop away rest. I do have to put the 'quick shot' biscuit on there now though, feeding the arrow through the hole is a pain in the butt.

[Mike128]

I prefer a drop away for hunting. The reason is because my follow threw does not have to be as perfect. Hey, I'm not perfect.

I use a Muzzy fall away and I don't have to worry about where the arrow is or it falling off. And I dont have to have perfect follow threw.

[ImARugerFan]

Interesting, what do you mean about watching your follow through. I'm not a very experienced bow shooter, so I don't understand how follow through would affect a shot with or without a whisker biscuit. Also I can't find a single sight that does a good job showing how the muzzy site looks with an arrow on it. It'd be nice to see.

edit:here's a nice description: http://www.bowhunting.net/evaluation/00-Muzzy-ZeroEffect.html

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Use a sharp exacto knife to cut away whiskers at their base so you have 3 open spaces and 3 wedges of fibers all of equal size. I have the support of one wedge at the 6 oclock position and shoot cockvane up at 12. You will get almost total fletching clearance and less noise at release and still have enough to capture and support the arrow shaft.

Ahhh, I see - that's good stuff; thanks. That will work if your arrows are all vaned the same way, with the nock turned to the same point. If your nocks are out of whack then it won't help. But most if not all nocks will turn just with hand pressure.

The Golden Key Futura Funnel rest I mention above has pre-slotted slots for a 3-vane config, so it will work like that right out of the box.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

CZ22 - here:

http://www.google.com/products?q=whisker+biscuit&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title

[Mike128]

RugerFan
Follow threw is keeping the same position, specifically the arm that holds the bow up, until the arrow hits the target. I have a tendency to drop that arm to see the arrow hit the deer, bad follow threw or form. If the arrow is still in contact with the rest as you drop your arm it will throw off the arrow. I know we are talking of a very small amount of time but it does happen. It doesn't throw it off the target but a few inches.

The Muzzy looks complicated but it's pretty simple really. The arrow holder part looks like an L but with more curves on the two "legs". It raises up when you pull your bow back and the arrow will settle in a goove on the bottom leg. The leg on the outside of the bow keeps the arrow from falling off the shelf. Unless you turn the bow upside down there is no way the arrow will fall out or not not center in the groove as you pull your bow back.