Beretta Px4 Storm Pro's & Con's


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YoungGun
August 20, 2008, 03:56 PM
Hello all,

I was thinking about buying a Px4 Storm. And I was wondering what other people
had to say about the Px4 Storm mostly the Pro's & Con's. I have heard mixed
reviews about the Px4 Storm but nothing to sway me ether way from buying it or
not. Any info would be great.

Thanks

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SuperNaut
August 20, 2008, 03:59 PM
I've posted this before, but it still applies and it might help:

I bought the Px4 .45 but it also came with some misgivings:

I'm concerned about the strength of the frame. There is considerable flex toward the right side of the frame due to a weak spot on the left. I'm also seeing wear on the top inside of the dust cover: Not good. Also the sidewalls of the voids on the inside of the dust cover are quite thin.

The frame has small dimensional deformations. The most noticeable is also on the right side. It swells out away from the slide by a millimeter or so. No big deal, but why?

Internally there is a mating surface that has a little prong of metal that looks quite vulnerable and weak. With very little effort I was able to get it to block (and slightly mar) the slide during re-assembly.

I hate that the guide rod is plastic.

Small things, but they might turn into big things --Murphy's Law and all.

To be fair the PX4 has many pros:

Very comfortable grip
Shoots straight
Lightweight,
Durable finish on slide
Light Recoil, no flip
Customizeable functions
Compatibility with my CX4
Cool lookin'

BTW, there have been numerous reports of trigger-sting on all calibers of the PX4. But IIRC it is mostly on the .40. And I almost forgot, the safety is skiwampus; up for fire, down for safe.

Halo
August 20, 2008, 04:08 PM
I'll be interested in the responses you get, as I'm considering one of these too. It certainly is a nice looking pistol:

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff269/halo707/xlg_JXF9F11_px4_S.jpg

blkbrd666
August 20, 2008, 05:39 PM
Skiwampus??? What semiauto pistol is down for fire and up for safe???

YoungGun
August 20, 2008, 06:03 PM
Also what calibers have you guys shot it in? And what’s trigger sting? I read on anther forum
that the px4 had bad trigger sting? Do have to go on antibiotics if I want to shots this gun?

SuperNaut
August 20, 2008, 06:05 PM
Senior Member
Skiwampus??? What semiauto pistol is down for fire and up for safe???

Off the top of my head:

1911's, XD, HK, CZ, M&P, BHP, Bersa and Taurus too I think.

SuperNaut
August 20, 2008, 06:15 PM
Also what calibers have you guys shot it in?

.45 and 9mm, I bought the .45.

And what’s trigger sting? I read on anther forum that the px4 had bad trigger sting?

Mine had trigger sting for ~50 rounds and then it went away. I would liken the feeling to smacking your trigger finger moderately hard against the top of a desk. At first it is only uncomfortable, after a while it really starts to hurt. I have heard that trigger shoes help and that it is mostly confined to the .40.

blkbrd666
August 20, 2008, 09:57 PM
Ah, 1911...that's a good one. I didn't think of that one...I guess it being SA only, I don't ever mentally compare it with other semiautos. My M&P doesn't have a safety and my Bersas are up fire and down safe. I thought Taurus was mostly a Beretta copy and would be the same. Now I'm gonna have to go check CZ and Tanfoglio...was thinking of buying one, but that would make it backwards from everything I own...that would suck to have one completely backwards from what has become second nature.

I have the 9mm and haven't noticed any trigger sting. I bought the Px4 because I wanted to get the carbine/pistol "set"...wasn't particularly fond of it until I bought it and shot it. Now I am after the other Beretta with the rotating barrel...Cougar. The Px4 shoots way better than my 92.

Jason_G
August 20, 2008, 10:31 PM
The only things I don't like about it:

Looks like a garden hose nozzle. Not as ugly as a Glock, but a 1911 it ain't. Of course this is all just my opinion, some might think it's a good looking gun.
I'm not real fond of the slide mounted decocker/safety. I wish it were mounted on the frame like a 1911, USP, Sig, etc.


What I do like about it:

Pretty much everything else. I've not experienced the trigger sting that some folks are mentioning. The .40 is unbelievably tame. Less recoil than many 9mm pistols I've shot. Comfortable in the hand. Points fairly well. Pretty accurate. I wouldn't have any qualms with owning one.

Jason

SouthpawShootr
August 20, 2008, 11:19 PM
My M&P doesn't have a safety and my Bersas are up fire and down safe.

Not quite. S&W has the option of a safety on the M&P 45 and Bersa Thunder (available in 9mm, .40, and .45) have the up-safe, down-fire configuration - just the opposite of the .380 Thunder.:eek: Taurus uses the safety configuration the original Beretta 92 had - a frame mounted up-safe, down-fire configuration, always been like that. CZ and Tangfolio are, unfortunately for you, the same.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson//upload/images/firearms/109156_large.jpg

http://www.bersapistols.com/DisplayPic.aspx?PIC=11620

coinshooter
August 20, 2008, 11:30 PM
Very accurate. the one thing I don't like is the decocker location.

Fishman777
August 21, 2008, 01:20 AM
I don't care for the PX4 Storm's balance or finish. The gun feels very top heavy to me and bruniton is an outdated finish. I'd never consider getting a polymer gun that didn't have a tenifer, melonite, or HK's "hostile enviornment" finish.

texagun
August 26, 2008, 06:07 PM
The only things I don't like about it:

* Looks like a garden hose nozzle.


:D:D:DGood One!

Old School
August 26, 2008, 06:16 PM
The PX4 is a superior handgun. It is accurate, reliable, well made, easy to clean and is an ergonomic natural pointing hadgun. My only complaint is that I think it is too bulky and thick for a CCW.

rxraptor02
August 26, 2008, 06:59 PM
I have one in 9mm. I bought it new about 4 years ago and spent a lot of time at the range. It has held up really well. I have lost count at the total number of rounds. It is over 5k, I was shooting 250 rounds about twice a week for a few months when I had the time and $ for ammo.

I cant really speak for the con side of things. I have never had many issues with the gun. I did have one or two minor issues with ammo and hitting the mag release while shooting a steel match.

The gun is really accurate, low recoil, I like the looks of it. Everyone who shoots it likes it.

INMY01TA
December 1, 2008, 02:17 AM
Off the top of my head:

1911's, XD, HK, CZ, M&P, BHP, Bersa and Taurus too I think.
My Daewoo DP51 is up safe down fire as well.

jlh26oo
December 1, 2008, 02:38 AM
I only put a couple of mags through one (9mm), but have to say I didn't care for the trigger too much. O.T.O.H. it may be a pro for some, and being a Beretta, that's got to be a "pro" in itself.

wilder
December 1, 2008, 11:55 AM
Try one and see if you like it. I've fired it in 9mm and in .40. They both exhibited very low recoil for the caliber. The PX4 feels good it my hand and is very reliable. The trigger sting issue is overblown internet hype. It was only a very problem with a very few guns and as far as I've heard Beretta eventually replaced them all.

HMMurdock
February 9, 2009, 12:06 AM
What is the resistance (lbs) of the Type C trigger on the Storm? Anyone have a Type C .40 they'd care to brag or complain about?

benderx4
February 9, 2009, 09:24 AM
PRO: If you ever end up buying the excellent CX4 9mm carbine, you could use the same magazines from your PX4 in the "Storm".

Olympus
February 9, 2009, 10:50 AM
The PX4 was the first pistol I ever bought and it was a .40. I really really like that little gun. I never had a single FTF or FTE. It was really accurate and extremely durable and well-made. I can't think of single bad thing to say about it. I planned on having that gun forever, but had a guy that was interested in trading his 1911 for a PX4 and I had to jump on that deal. So compared to a 1911, it's not that great. But for a polymer pistol, I loved it. While I had the PX4, I also bought a Walther P99 QA in .40 and I would much rather shoot the Beretta than the Walther.

archigos
February 9, 2009, 12:33 PM
Pros:
Love the feel of the gun, its stock grip compliments my hand perfectly.
I'd say its accurate but I'm not myself.
In my opinion, the most attractive polymer framed semi-auto.

Cons:
No Crimson Trace grips. I've submitted a request for them, but who knows if they'll ever get around to making grips for this gun.
The safety/decocker location and operation. I have to practically take my primary hand off the gun just to reach it.

2and a quarter
February 9, 2009, 09:45 PM
Pretty much what everyone else has said, great shooting gun, but the placement of the decocker/safety. Very difficult to draw, flick the lever and shoot in a easy fluid motion .

Ric
February 10, 2009, 05:44 AM
The only thing I didn't like about mine was the safety position, I just couldn't get used to the reach so I had it converted to a "G" model (decock only)
One of my favorites now, shoots great
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/D-Ric902/IMG_0420.jpg

Boats
February 10, 2009, 04:15 PM
Pretty much what everyone else has said, great shooting gun, but the placement of the decocker/safety. Very difficult to draw, flick the lever and shoot in a easy fluid motion .

The only thing I didn't like about mine was the safety position, I just couldn't get used to the reach so I had it converted to a "G" model (decock only)
One of my favorites now, shoots great

No offense to you guys in particular, but these kinds of statements irk me as a Beretta owner of long standing.

Beretta duty pistols aren't meant to be carried with the safety on "SAFE." The lever is more of an out of the way decocker, while in "F" form, also capable of administrative safety or one that can be employed during a struggle for the weapon to disconnect its trigger. The "G" model "decock only" Berettas are the purest expression of the idea that the Beretta slide lever is much more decocker than safety with the automatic return of the lever meant to prevent the safety being mistakenly left on "SAFE." The SIG P series utilizes a similar execution, with a decocking lever well back of where it can be easily or accidentally engaged by a right hander's thumb.

The Beretta that became the 92FS/M9 used to have a frame mounted safety without a decocker, rather like the CZ-75 still does today. However, manual decocking was/is an undesirable "feature" on a military or police pistol. Evidently, it is also undesirable to be able to ride a frame mounted three position safety, ON, FIRE, DECOCK, into decocking the pistol inadvertently. I actually did this while competing with an H&K USP in C&L mode about a decade ago. That was the moment which wound up with selling that pistol as "Used."

When Beretta added decocking to the 92. It wound up on the slide as an "anvil" struck by the hammer, which in turn impacts the firing pin. The anvil can be completely rotated out of the way by the lever to prevent accidental firing during any decocking of the weapon. Engaging the safety also disconnects the transfer bar. It is hard to imagine someone accidentally decocking a Beretta during normal operation.

So, there's a reason that they put the decocker up on the slide, if you follow the reasoning. That it can also be a trigger disconnect safety is merely gravy.

Please carry your Beretta duty pistol chamber loaded, hammer down, safety off, ready to go for a first round DA shot. It should never be carried for action with the safety on "SAFE."

WRGADog
February 11, 2009, 09:57 PM
I have a PX4 9mm and PX4sc. Great ergonomics, very accurate gun. My only complaint, they are somewhat thick for concealed carry.

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