Hogue OverMolded Stock?


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Frosty_
August 21, 2008, 03:07 PM
I am picking up a Savage Model 12 FV in .308 next week. My 1st thing to change will be the stock. What is a good aftermarket stock for the Model 12?

I read Macmillan and HS are great, but what about the Hogue Overmolded Stock with the Full Pillar Bedding? I've read that they are flexible. Is this true?

If the action is mounted directly to the aluminum block then who cares about the squishy stock? Or am I mistaken here? Does one need to bed a stock even if the receiver is the only portion of the rifle?

Or am I wrong in my logic that an aluminum bedding block will mate up directly to the bottom of the receiver and touch nothing else?

Need answers please.

How are Bell & Carson, and the Choate Ultm sniper stock? Low-end I know.


-Frosty_

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Frosty_
August 21, 2008, 04:44 PM
Please reply guys! I need your experienced imput.

mgregg85
August 21, 2008, 04:47 PM
If your action is mounted to an aluminum block then I'd say no bedding is needed.

TIMC
August 21, 2008, 04:51 PM
The squishy is only on the outside. The body of the stock is fiberglass and very rigid. I have one on my FN PBR rifle and had one on a Remington mod 700 but I sold that rifle recently. I never had any problems with either rifle with the Hogue stock mounted on them.
For visual reference.
FN PBR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/FNPBRrifle.jpg?t=1219348296

Remington mod 700
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Remingtonmod700lrscope.jpg?t=1219348238

dagger dog
August 21, 2008, 05:49 PM
I ordered a Bell & Carlson Duramax replacement stock for my Savage 12 FV .223 last week .

On arrival I was very pleased with the quality, the pillar bedding, fit and finish(mine is cammo)is quality for the price, the sling swivel studs and recoil pad are excellent, the fore arm width is medium , not sporter thin but not a full beavertail varmint width either.

I did not weigh it but it is at least as light as the factory stock. The fit of the barrel channel, which is free floating,is nice and evenly spaced(can't say this for the Savage factory plastic stock)and the fit around the tang is dead on along with the trigger guard inletting.

Had to drill one hole for the rear trigger guard wood screw. It came with good instructions and a factory warranty card from Bell and Carlson with a note attached to notify them with any fitting problems or input that can make their product better.

I'm headed to the range to shoot it in this weekend . Can't wait!

I had this same action mounted in the Choate Ultimate Varmint stock with the full length aluminum bedding block, my rig with scope ,steel rings and mounts weighed in over 13 lbs, one half of this being the stock, it is very heavy, very accurate but very heavy it was a good stock off the bench but you need to hire someone to carry the thing around!

The full bedding block even when it is aluminum will add a great deal of weight to any stock, where the pillar bedding will only an ounce. In my opinion the pillar is just as accurate, if you are just a mortal,shooting for pleasure and not for record.

As a matter of fact I could see no difference in accuracy between the Tupperware pillar bedded factory Savage stock and the full length aluminum bedded stock!

NCsmitty
August 21, 2008, 06:09 PM
I have a Hogue standard pillar version on my Mauser conversion 22-250. It is absolutely stock, no bedding and have shot 3/8" 5 shot groups with it. I love the feel of the rubber skin, kind of gives a confident grip. I recommend it.

NCsmitty

Frosty_
August 21, 2008, 08:38 PM
Oh man that dresses up that 700 and the FN really nice.

I want a standard Monte Carlo looking stock like the Hogue, and not some convoluted 'sniper' stock. I'm not a sniper, and while the rifle will shoot 'sub MOA all day' (hehe that rhymed) it is not a sniper rifle. I basically don't want to be a wanna be sniper.

I just want an accurate as hell rifle that preforms well.

skinewmexico
August 22, 2008, 12:38 AM
The Hogue for the Savage is still vaporware, isn't it? They've been advertising it for 2 years. I'm really happy with both my B&C Duramaxx and Medalist stocks.

SGW42
August 22, 2008, 12:52 AM
Not on any rifles but I do have a Hogue stock set on my 870 and it looks like a million bucks.

I really like the grip surfaces on the wrist and forearm (as said above it's a very confident grip), and the recoil pad (assuming they're the same on the rifle stocks) is super squishy and soaks up a lot of energy.

Tang419
September 22, 2008, 04:47 PM
I've been tossing this idea around myself. I want a new stock for my Ruger M77 MkII .300 WM. It has one of the boat paddle "skeleton stocks" . I really loved the feel of the Hogue on a friends FN PBR. I'm just wondering if the full lenght bedding is worth the extra money. Can anyone tell me if the barrel is floated with the Hogue stocks ?

This is just a hunting rifle, but I do want it to shoot well.

aka108
September 22, 2008, 07:58 PM
Put one on a sporterized GEW98 and on 10/22. Very satisfied with both.

Coltdriver
September 22, 2008, 08:35 PM
I too put a Hogue overmolded stock on my FN PBR in 300 WSM.

I do not have the full aluminum sub frame, just two aluminum pillars that are embedded in a fiberglass frame which is in turn overmolded with the black rubber.

The stock is rigid. And it perfectly floats the barrel.

My stock delivered was $110.00. The full aluminum sub frame version was around $250.00.

They are a bit heavy, certainly heavier than a wood stock. My FN came in at 9 3/4 pounds without a scope. But I think you will find all of the higher end stocks like the McMillan and so on are made for sniper duty and making the stock light is not their objective.

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