M1 Garand .308 m14 mag conversion?


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Click Click Boom
August 21, 2008, 07:20 PM
Is there a M1 garand to M14 box mag conversion available? There is a M1 Garand with a Laminated stock and rebarreled to .308 for sale at a local gun store for $600 OTD. This seems like a decent deal for a shooter. I just want the 20 round mags.

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HorseSoldier
August 21, 2008, 07:47 PM
+1 what USA#1 said. I'm not an expert, but I've also heard/read that modifying a Garand to take magazines involves messing up the temper of the receiver's steel, and then requires re-heat treating the whole thing. Probably cheaper just to buy a Springfield m14 clone.

bratch
August 21, 2008, 08:08 PM
Probably cheaper just to buy a Springfield m14 clone.

This or just live with the enblocs.

nj.piney
August 21, 2008, 08:09 PM
beretta bm 59

stiletto raggio
August 21, 2008, 08:19 PM
En bloc clips are so damn fun, I think they are the best reason to buy an M1. If you want a mag-fed semi, get a CETME, G3 clone, FAL, or M1A. Heck, even one of the 7.62x51 Saigas. The cost, difficulty and sheer pain of trying to custom reproduce the BM 59 is hardly worth it.

JMHO.

briansmithwins
August 21, 2008, 08:22 PM
Probably cheaper just to buy a Springfield m14 clone.

The M1A IS a Garand modded to take magazines and 7.62 NATO.

BSW

Trebor
August 21, 2008, 08:22 PM
There have been smiths who would convert Garands to use M-14 mags.

There are problems with the conversion in that a lot of material has to be removed from the receiver. That's always tricky.

I don't know if any of those smiths are still offering that conversion. For one thing, M-14 parts kits and parts have really dried up.

Btw, .30 - '06 is actually cheaper from the CMP now then any mil surp .308 you'll find.

MechAg94
August 21, 2008, 11:56 PM
I have seen a rifle that appears to have been a modified Garand, but I agree that it would likely be too expensive.

If it really were that great an option, Springfield Armory and others would not be in business making new M14's and the CMP would be selling more rifles.

Neo-Luddite
August 21, 2008, 11:56 PM
The receiver on an original M-1 Garand is one of the most durable--if not THE most durable-- ever made for a high-power autoloading rifle.

People have made them take box mags--but with very limited success and at the price if destroying something elegant that works VERY well.

The best road to that box mag is an M1a. But I'd give that clip fed M-1 a second look. Changing mags on an M1a/M-14 is a two-handed operation--not much better than mag changes on an AK. It is awkward; probably the weakest point on an otherwise great rifle.

A Garand can be reloaded and functioned with one hand; and there is of course no 'empty' to remove as the weapon ejects the enbloc with the last case extracted and locks the bolt to the rear.

And, for what it's worth (and as said), I'd get one in .06--the CMP has awesome Greek ammo loaded on clips for about 27 cents a round. And they have rifles to sell for <500 bucks and on up if you want something special.

ColinthePilot
August 22, 2008, 12:03 AM
The M1A IS a Garand modded to take magazines and 7.62 NATO.

Beat me to it.
With the supposedly available kits out there costing so much ($1500 mentioned above) you could spend the same money and buy an M1A and keep the Garand for the original price. I know the term gets thrown around here a lot, but the conversion sounds like a solution to a non-existent problem.

P-32
August 22, 2008, 12:25 AM
The best road to that box mag is an M1a. Changing mags on an M1a/M-14 is a two-handed operation--not much better than mag changes on an AK. It is awkward; probably the weakest point on an otherwise great rifle.

I would agree 100% with everything said until the above statements. I have never had to use two hands to change a mag on a M-14 or a M-1A. I would guess I shot around 10K of M-852 through a couple of Navy M-14's. I would agree the 8 round enblocs are a hoot and I only got a Garand thumb 1 time. Once was enough.

jaholder1971
August 22, 2008, 12:45 AM
Don't screw up an M1 receiver on something like this PLEASE.

If you want a mag fed .308, buy an M1A.

nj.piney
August 22, 2008, 02:01 AM
the garand used an operating rod with the end of the rod being the piston , the m1a has a short stroke piston seperate from the operating rod.

Neo-Luddite
August 22, 2008, 08:48 AM
P-32--not doubting you--but HOW can you do so one handed?

foghornl
August 22, 2008, 10:51 AM
NOT a good idea. It takes waaaaay too much metal out of the receiver to allow use of the 20-round box magazines.

It has been done, but I won't shoot one of those.

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