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Sylvan-Forge
August 22, 2008, 03:30 PM
For instruction, self-defense & SHTF ..
What would you put in the armory for the calibers listed?


.22 LR


.38 SPL


9x19 PARA


.45 ACP


5.56 NATO


7.62 NATO


12 GAUGE


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Nolo
August 22, 2008, 03:36 PM
I'd combo .38 Special with .357 Magnum.
That they can be used in the same gun is a huge boon.
Also, you might try one of the two newbies, like 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel. When they get established all the way, I imagine they will become staples.
And there's no .30-06 or 7.62x54R or 7.62x39. All of those are very valid calibers.
.40 S&W, 10mm Auto.
There's certainly some room for the list to grow.

eflatminor
August 22, 2008, 03:36 PM
If I had the bread...

.22lr - Weatherby rimfire rifle
.38 spl - S&W revolver
9mm - Springfield single stack
.45 - Nighthawk Custom Talon
.223 - AR, anyway you like it
7.62 - Don't know, never owned one
12 guage - A fine English or Basque made side-by-side

You haven't left yourself a long range varmint rifle! 22-250 or .243 with a heavy barrel would do the trick there.

Just Jim
August 22, 2008, 03:37 PM
.22 LR

Ruger 10-22
Smith 617


.38 SPL

Smith K38
Smith 442


9x19 PARA

Subgun(your choice)
BHP


.45 ACP
twin 1911s


5.56 NATO

Sig 556 or M4


7.62 NATO

FNFAL


12 GAUGE
M1 Super 90 and a Remington 870

jj

nplant
August 22, 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm sorry, but I can't resist the urge to be literal. :p

.22 LR
Lightweight Carbine/Rifle

.38 SPL
Revolver

9x19 PARA
Semi-Auto Pistol

.45 ACP
Semi-Auto Pistol

5.56 NATO
Carbine

7.62 NATO
Rifle

12 GAUGE
Shotgun

PacketStorm
August 22, 2008, 03:42 PM
I would trim down the SHTF arsenal to fewer calibers to allow you to stock up on more ammo for each. Here are some comments on why each of them.

.22 lr = Marlin Golden 39A
* Rock solid reliability. Tube magazine for high capacity. If you get a good model out of the box, it should work for years without service. Also doesn't look intimidating (lever action). It looks like a good old cowboy gun, but is a great performer and deadly weapon.

9mm = Glock 17 with 17round mags
* Rock solid reliability. High capacity with the 9mm and great for personal protection. Great shooter to hand off to the wife or son. Nothing fancy, point and squeeze.

7.62 = Saiga Rifle
* Rock solid reliability. This is a nice caliber rifle for anything up to deer. Even in the standard configuration with 10round mags, you have a lot of firepower out to a solid 200 yards. Most shots will be well under. You can throw it down in the snow, mud, dirt or anywhere and it will still continue to run. Scope it if you like or run the irons.

12guage = Remington 870 with Deer Barrel and Long Goose Barrel
Bird Shot #6, Goose/Turkey Shot BB, Slugs & Buckshot
* Rock solid reliability. This is another great american firearm. With both barrels you have a gun for any season. This one gun would be enough to keep your family safe and fed for many years. Many accessories also available (high capacity magazine/pistol grip). Low cost.

Bottom line, you want reliable weapons for the SHTF situation. I have found that keeping bullets for more than these starts to get difficult. I generally don't have more than a box or two on hand for other guns. These are easy to stock up a few hundred rounds of each.

Nolo
August 22, 2008, 03:43 PM
Oh, I misread the question. Dumb me.

Zedo
August 22, 2008, 03:44 PM
44 magnum -- Lever carbine and revolver.

Happiness Is A Warm Gun
August 22, 2008, 03:49 PM
I would use less calibers. logistics are a *itch.

I would rather have 1000 rounds of 9x19 and 5 9x19 pistols then
100 rounds of .38SP, 200 rounds of 9x19, 400 rounds of .45ACP, 300 rounds of .22LR and a mix of weapons.

9x19 or .45ACP
5.56 or 7.62
12 gauge

Eric F
August 22, 2008, 04:08 PM
.22 LR
Ruger 10-22
reliability and simple operation

.38 SPL
j frame smith
easily concealed light weight

9x19 PARA
glock 17
reliable and easy to operate


.45 ACP
1911
come on what SHTF fantasy would be complete with out one


5.56 NATO
ar
readily modified platform for a multi role rifle


7.62 NATO
savage mod 10p
accurate bolt gun not much to jam or go wrong


12 GAUGE
remington 870
reliable and almost every one knows how to use it.

TeamPrecisionIT
August 22, 2008, 04:21 PM
.22 LR
-Ruger 10/22 - There is a HUGE product network for stuff that may break and ammo is incredibly easy to stockpile (you could fit 3000 or more rounds in a shoebox).

9x19 PARA
Not sure if you are looking for a pistol with this or sub gun but I had to choose either/or
-HK MP5 for a sub gun
-HK USP series for handgun

.45 ACP
Most popular 1911 platform availability, again for parts interchange/network

5.56 NATO
If you're in America, go with the AR platform again for parts network

7.62 NATO
Not sure which 7.62x? you're looking for here, but if you have an AR, then go with a MN that way you have a higher firepower and longer distance coverage with it as well as a huge parts network for it.

12 GAUGE
Mossberg 500/590 or Remington 870, if you can't find replacement parts for these, just sell your whole arsenal right now.

Damian

OOOXOOO
August 22, 2008, 04:29 PM
1= Ruger 10/22
2= S&W 442
3= Glock 19
4= Glock 20
5= AR variant(carbine for me)
6= M1A1
7= Remmington 870

Sylvan-Forge
August 22, 2008, 04:29 PM
This is just an exersize .. carry on and have fun!

Oh, instruction = training noobs :)

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yhtomit
August 22, 2008, 04:45 PM
These are two guns that I own, but I bought them after long consideration, so it's not that I'm suggesting them only *because* I got them :)

9mm: Cz-75 - reliable, accurate, hand-fitting (for me, and many others, YMMV)

.223: Saiga in that caliber -- beefy internal parts, easy even for me to take down and clean, seems as close to indestructable as guns seem to get.

timothy

goon
August 22, 2008, 04:51 PM
For my uses, I'd drop the 5.56 in favor of a lever action 30-30 and replace the .38 Special with .357 Magnum.
Also, depending on how attached you are to the .45 ACP, I might drop it too. Between the 9mm and .357 I don't see a "need" that the .45 ACP fills.
But if you like it, well I guess that's enough of a need.

texas bulldog
August 22, 2008, 05:13 PM
22 LR: S&W M17, M18, or M41 for hangun; marlin 39A for rifle
.38 SPL: 4" S&W M686 or M586 (gives the option of .357; K-frame would be okay too)
9x19 PARA: BHP
.45 ACP: 5" 1911
5.56 NATO: 16" AR15
7.62 NATO: M1A
12 GAUGE: 18.5" Remington 870 or 870P

'course that's just my taste. lots of other ways you could go and still be "right".

Soybomb
August 22, 2008, 05:16 PM
.22 LR - no real need, whatever plinker you like most
.38 SPL - jframe for a pocket gun
9x19 PARA - medium frame semi auto for iwb carry
.45 ACP - unnecessary
5.56 NATO - 16" ar for home defense
7.62 NATO - something like a 700 if you plan to hunt with it
12 GAUGE - 870 (i'd personally make this either/or with the 7.62 rifle)

NotSoFast
August 22, 2008, 06:10 PM
I prefer to look at it from this angle:

.22lr Rifle - Savage Mark II Bolt Action
.22lr pistol - Walther P22
Large pistol (SD) - .40 S&W, either Glock G22 or Springfield Arms XP

or

Large pistol (training) - Glock G17 (9mm) (I might be training a lady.)
Subcompact pistol - .40 S&W Kahr MK40
Revolver - .357 magnum Ruger Vaquero with 5 1/2" barrel
Small caliber rifle - Ruger Mini-14 (.223/5.56)
Large caliber rifle - M1 Garand (.30-06) or M1A (7.62)
Shotgun - 12 ga. Mossberg 500 combo Field/Security

I've chosen these for ease of maintenance in most cases. reliability, and to keep the different types of ammunition to a minimum if possible.

For an absolute minimum I would choose the large caliber rifle, large pistol and the shotgun, fitting in the .22lr rifle if possible.

But to answer your question specifically:
.22 LR - Rifle - Savage Mark II Bolt Action
- pistol - Walther P22


.38 SPL - S&W model 442 hammerless


9x19 PARA - Glock G17


.45 ACP - Glock G21


5.56 NATO - Howa/Hogue Compact Ranchland Security Rifle


7.62 NATO - M1A


12 GAUGE - Mossberg 500 Security/Field combo

Aaryq
August 22, 2008, 06:47 PM
.22 LR
Ruger 10/22

.38 SPL
Taurus Something or Another

9x19 PARA
MP5

.45 ACP
1911

5.56 NATO
AR-15

7.62 NATO
FN-FAL

12 GAUGE
Mossberg 500

Bobarino
August 22, 2008, 08:27 PM
.22 LR

10/22 or Marlin 981T for a bolty

.38 SPL

take yer pick.


9x19 PARA

glock 19


.45 ACP

1911


5.56 NATO

AR in the flavor of your choosing.


7.62 NATO

HK91 or PTR 91


12 GAUGE

Rem 1100

i think you should throw in a .30-30 too. its unAmerican to NOT own one ya know.... :D

Bobby

ColinthePilot
August 22, 2008, 08:40 PM
22 LR: Savage MkII bolt
9x19 PARA: BHP, Sig P226 or 229
.45 ACP: 1911
5.56 NATO: AR15, any flavors or toppings you like
7.62 NATO: M1A
12 GAUGE: Mossberg 500

I don't own any revolvers, but It seems like a .357 would be ideal since you can shoot .38SPL out of it too. ammo commonality is nice.
I would also add a few.
7.62X39- either AK clone or SKS would be fine.
30.06- A good hunting rifle or maybe a Springfield or Garand.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
August 22, 2008, 09:04 PM
Sylvan, with that:

.22 LR
.38 SPL
9x19 PARA
.45 ACP
5.56 NATO
7.62 NATO
12 GAUGE


I would add, in order:

1. .17 HMR or .22 mag, or both,
and

2. 6.5x55mm or .260 rem,
and

3. 20 gauge or 28 gauge,
and

4. .35 Whelen or .45-70 or .375 H&H mag or 9.3x62mm,
and

5. .243 Win or 6mm Rem,
and

6. .454 Casull / .45 Colt,
and

7. 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC

possum
August 22, 2008, 09:07 PM
i would also add 7.62x39 but other than that it looks like you have all the other bases covered.

lee n. field
August 22, 2008, 09:42 PM
.22lr

Ruger 10/22 and/or Mark II or III. Customize at will.

.45

Marlin Camp Carbine, suppressed, for them pesky zombies and urban poaching. A modern DeLisle.

9x19 PARA


XD40 :neener: There's nothing a 9 does that a .40 doesn't do better.

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