Sig trailside or Walther sp22

[Country_boy_88]

Well ive been shooting a Mark III competition model with a rail and red dot scope for silouette shooting. I love the gun but unfortunately its my brothers and id like one of my own. I heard good things about the Sig trailside but they are close to $600 if the i can find one of gunbroker for 500 and then another 100 for the rail to even mount the red dot. I havent been able to hold one so i dont know how well it feels. Now that walther came out with the sp22 it look to be a prety good gun but still cannot find it in a dealer around here. Any opinions guys? The Trailside looks really good and is made by hammerli which i like but maybe it costs considerably more than an sp22. Or maybe i should just stick with the gun ive been shooting and maybe buy the same model? any advice welcome!

[eflatminor]

Be sure to fondle a S&W Model 41. They might be out of your price range unless you can find a used one, but they make excellent target pistols and take to modifications easily with lots of parts available. I use mine for Bullseye competitions.

[rduckwor]

Stay away from the Walther. Short (!!!) sight radius, tiny grip, and difficult to shoot accurately. Field stripping is a PITA as well. SIG Trailside is a very good gun, but, a Browning Buck Mark is a better deal. They tend to run about $350.00. You can probably find one with the 5+ inch barrel and that gives you a great sight radius. You can easily find a Weaver compatible rail (midwayusa.com) and inexpensive Red Dot sight to fit the Buck Mark. Great fun for target shooting.

Good Luck,

RMD

[Prophet]

I do not understand why everyone dislikes the P22. My dad has one and can put all 10rds in a frying pan @70ft. with relative ease. Its comfortable enough, and also very lightweight. Plus ammo is cheap, so you can plink away to your hearts content. :)

Field stripping can be a pain... but there is a trick to be learned that makes it a little easier to do.

[Tortuga12]

The P22 and SP22 are not the same gun!

SP22http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=13152&storeId=10002&categoryId=48316&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=43326&top_category=43326&training=

P22http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=13152&storeId=10002&categoryId=43804&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=43326&top_category=43326&training=

SP22 looks interesting, there have been some favorable reviews on Rimfire Central, I believe.

However, I can definitely reccommend the High Standard Citation. My father gave me his, a 107 military grip, 7 1/4" fluted barrel model. Adjustable trigger pull and overtravel, good sights, easy barrel change, IMO the perfect .22 target pistol! (I know SW 41 fans will contradict me on this!)

Here's one for a reasonable price:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108016122


If you do look into these, stay away from the new ones made in TX. Everything I've heard indicates poor QC and customer support, which is very sad. Those made at the Hamden factory are the most desirable, E. Hartford after that, then TX, then the "Mitchell" clones.

I also have a Ruger Mk II, 4" tapered barrel, fixed sights. I use this one for plinking, and I love it too! Also very accurate, but not one ragged hole accurate like my High Standard. A friend of mine has the 22/45 Mk. III, 5 1/2", his 1st gun, great for beginners, but I think the balance and weight is a little off, and the grip is a little thin.

As far as the Trailside, I haven't heard much good about them, although I admit they do look pretty!

[taliv]

As far as the Trailside, I haven't heard much good about them, although I admit they do look pretty!

??? they're awesome guns. i've had one for about a decade now and bought it when it was MUCH more expensive than the $300 cdnn specials. mine shoots fantastic. it has a nice built in rail for a pistol scope. it is easy to take apart. feels good in the hand. it's a good size.

there are a few things about it I don't like, but they're nitpicky

[Jim Watson]

The SP22 I looked at was kind of a plinker dressed up as a target pistol. It looked impressive in the showcase but in the hand seemed of inexpensive construction and had a rather tough trigger pull.

Ruger or Buckmark these days with S&W M41 priced out of sight and High Standard of Connecticut out of business.

[bdutton]

What kind of shooting? If shooting bullseye, neither are very good.

A marvel conversion a 1911 frame is good if you already have a 1911. If not, and money is tight. Then the ruger is ok. Another option could be a decent used high standard.

If you really want to do well on relatively short money in competition bullseye, get an older used Pardini for about $900.

[rduckwor]

The P22 and SP22 are not the same gun!

Ah, yes, reading failure on my part. I withdraw my Walther objection.

Sorry,

RMD

[greyling22]

I may be way off here, but I think sig bought hamerli(sp?) they guys who make the olympic pistols and used that design to make the trailside. it's supposed to be nice.

[Country_boy_88]

your right greyling they did but they only offered the trailside up until they came out with the misquito. there hard to come by.
what is bulleye anyways and why wouldnt any of these 2 work?

[Lovesbeer99]

I have the trailside and love it. It's got a great trigger right out of the box and is very accurate. I had a P22 and sold it. My brother bought a P99 and sold it. As a result I'm turned off to any walther products at this point.

I didn't pay more than 475 for mine brand new. I may want to sell it to get a .22 cowboy gun like cimarron or colt new frontier. I love the trailside, but I in general I like revo's better.

[Country_boy_88]

what kinda trailside?lol i may be interested if its a target or competition model

[deaconkharma]

But why not a ruger 22/45 with bull barrel?
I Love them and the controls mimic a 45. mine is super accurate. and not 600 bucks either:what:

[kle]

what is bulleye anyways and why wouldnt any of these 2 work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullseye_(shooting_competition) -- Bullseye. Standing and shooting at fixed distances under time limits, emphasis on accuracy and precision.

Any of the guns mentioned in this thread (except maybe the Walther P22) will work--it's more about the shooter than it is the hardware.

[Tortuga12]

About the Trailside, I was confusing it with the Mosquito. Had a friendly little competition with a guy at the local range, it was a nice looking pistol! Still kicked his butt with my High Standard though!:evil:

[testar77]

I do not understand why everyone dislikes the P22. My dad has one and can put all 10rds in a frying pan @70ft. with relative ease. Its comfortable enough, and also very lightweight. Plus ammo is cheap, so you can plink away to your hearts content.



Frying pan at 70ft?? unless it's a frying pan from some little girls easy bake kitchen set, that is not near enough accuracy to compete with in pretty much any discipline. Anything more than 2" groups at that distance will put you out of the medals for sure! Heck my 1911 does less than 2" at 50yds (unfortunately I don't quite shoot that good :) )

[JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone]

OK, I've read about a very few Trailsides that have what we could consider as having a 'match grade' trigger. Most every one I've handled, the owners had to send them off to a gunsmith or to Sig/Hammerli to have worked. I have witnessed 8# trigger pulls on a few right out of the box. That's not match grade.

P22? You've got to be kidding me. Let's see, the nine ring on a 50' BE target is what, 1 3/8"? If the gun won't shoot inside the nine ring, I don't care who you are, you won't be competitive. There's enough human factor involved already.

I suggest two that are cheaper and better. Browning Buckmark, Ruger Gov. Target.

-Steve

[Country_boy_88]

sorry jack but u missed up at the top were it says SP22 not p22. its walthers new competition model .22 and thanks for the heads up on the trailside