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BPRevolvers
August 23, 2008, 11:20 PM
I collect black powder weapons usually from the civil war and im looking to expand my collection with either more civil war weapons or some sort of flintlock firearm. It would be a lot of help to me to here what you guys would reccomend as of furthering my collection....keep in mind that I possess a .44 cal 1860 army colt and a .58 cal 1853 musket so any ideas on what would be a good next gun to further my collection would be much apprieciated.

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theotherwaldo
August 24, 2008, 03:17 AM
The 1858 Remington Navy .44 is my personal favorite. I've had two originals, one of which was just a relic while the other was in very good functional condition.
As far as reproductions go, I still prefer '58 Remington Navy model, with '51 Colts a close second.
Let's not talk about Rugers in this case.

eclarsen
August 26, 2008, 05:35 PM
Ditto on the 1858 Remington. I have two and enjoy them both.

The Colt Patterson and Walker revolvers would be good additions.

If you are interested in cartridge revolvers, reproductions of Colt 1872 Open Tops (44 Russian, 44 Colt, 44 spl) are nice.

Hawk
August 26, 2008, 06:28 PM
Does the Ministry of Rumor Control have anything recent on the USFA Rem 1858s / 1875s?

oklahoma caveman
August 26, 2008, 06:59 PM
find a ruger old army. awesome bp revolver.

unspellable
August 26, 2008, 07:24 PM
Whilst I own a Ruger Old Army and have to say it's the best cap and ball revolver around for shooting, it's a modern design and not a replica of anything, so I don't think it fills the bill here.

The Rogers & Spencer is in the unique position of being a vintage cap & ball revolver that saw practical modern usage as well as there being replicas of the it.

The original Rogers & Spencer revolvers arrived in the government arsenals too late for issue in the Civil War. There they languished until 1903 when the government sold them off to Bannerman's and mint condition cap & ball revolvers appeared on the civilian market. A certain number of these made their way to Great Britain where they were fitted with adjustable sights and used for serious competition target shooting. Local laws making a cartridge revolver impractical. For the same reason they now have a smokeless powder conversion for the Ruger Old Army.

fineredmist
August 26, 2008, 07:24 PM
Hawk,

I gentleman I shoot with works at USFA and I asked him the same question the other day. He has seen several in the shop (two were beautifully engraved) but that is about all. There is no movement at this time but it may be down the road.

1858
August 26, 2008, 07:55 PM
Does the Ministry of Rumor Control have anything recent on the USFA Rem 1858s / 1875s?

Hawk, I would DEARLY love a Remington 1858, 1868 AND 1875 from USFA. I think the Rem '58/'68/'75 (http://www.hartfordarmory.com/rem75zoom.htm) are among the best looking revolvers ever made. I contacted Hartford Armory (http://www.hartfordarmory.com/remmies.htm) recently to ask about the availability of their Remington 1875 revolvers but this is the reply I received.

"Sorry, but the Remington's are sold out nationwide, used guns are selling for above the retail new price and our entire production capacity is being utilized to make another very high-end revolver for another manufacturer.
As to cost, Ubertis, quality and authenticity, the Ubertis are castings, they do not bear close dimensional similarity to the original guns, the cylinders are retained like Colts and not like the original Remington design.
If you can wait, and it's likely to be a long time, we will resume production of the Remingtons."

The reply left me wondering what "high-end revolver" and which "manufacturer" .... :scrutiny:

:)

Hawk
August 26, 2008, 08:02 PM
The reply left me wondering what "high-end revolver" and which "manufacturer" ....
They're making STI's Texican.
Kinda explains the 20 week backorder on STI's product n'cest pas?

I find myself wishing Skinner would take the thing in-house.

BigBlock
August 26, 2008, 08:30 PM
Have to agree about the 1858 Remingtons. Wish I never would have sold my nice stainless one...:uhoh:

scrat
August 26, 2008, 09:07 PM
First of all you would get a lot more information and knowledge if this was moved to the black powder forums.

i have a good collection of bp guns. However i am suprised no one has mentioned the grand daddy of them all.

Nothing out beats the WALKER

Ok. here is why. its fun to shoot regular revolvers and everything. But once in a while its great to pick up the Walker and let her rip with shooting 55 grains of Goex. That gun is a blast to shoot weather im shooting 55 grains or 35 grains its very accurate. Kinda tempormental with caps. i have some new nipples i have to try though. Its also fun to shoot 45 colt. Though i am looking forward to shooting 45 schofield. Only gripe is man that thing is heavy. But when your shooting a 16 inch gun it had better be.

scrat
August 26, 2008, 09:42 PM
ok now that Larry helped move it to the correct location we can all have some fun with it. Le me start in though. this guy wants to know about our favorite bp weapons. Make sure you post why its your favorite. Lets keep it clean and have some fun with this.

black_powder_Rob
August 26, 2008, 11:10 PM
With out a doubt get the 1851 Colt:eek:, one of the best looking bps out there IMO, next would be the 1860. Or if we included pocket models you could go with a 1862:what: navy pocket colt.

But if you were looking for another style other than an open top you could go with an 1858 Remington. Either way you can't go wrong they are all great fun to shoot.:D



opps just noticed you already have an 1860.

mykeal
August 27, 2008, 12:20 AM
My favorite is the one I'm shooting at the time.

However, I can identify a few that are a little more favorite than the others, and a couple that probably don't quite make the grade very often.

Ruger Old Army
1847 Colt Walker
1848 Colt 2nd Model Dragoon
1863 Rogers & Spencer
1851 Colt Navy
1860 Colt Army
1858 Remington New Navy

The above order changes often.

4v50 Gary
August 27, 2008, 01:17 AM
If you're looking at exotic handguns, look no further than LeMat.

Me, I'm for long arms. I'd love to have a scoped Whitworth but now we're talking $25k plus.

Mike 56
August 27, 2008, 01:57 AM
I only have only two cap and ball revolvers a 58 Remington and a 51 colt. Both shoot well with the sights. A lot times i will just point and shoot at seven yards no sights. I have to say for me the Colt is a natural pointer. If it is 1855 and i am in a gun fight i want my 51 Colt.

Some of the other reasons i like Colts better are the stronger hammer spring more dependable ignition and the grooved cylinder pin i can shoot more loads without cleaning and relubeing the pin.

Mike

Mike OTDP
August 27, 2008, 02:08 AM
Back to the original post....

A lot depends on whether you are trying to collect original or replica arms. If you are trying to build up a representative set of replicas, you already have a musket and a revolver...you need a carbine. A Sharps or Smith would do nicely.

After that, I would seriously consider trying to get into the original guns.

unspellable
August 27, 2008, 11:51 AM
Insofar as just simply liking the revolver, the remington is probably my favorite of the vintage styles.

Bryan James
August 27, 2008, 12:13 PM
I started with a 1858 and it's a great gun to start with.
but my favorite is my 1851 in 36cal, followed by my 1860. I hate to say it, but I hardly shoot my 1858 anymore,

mike101
August 27, 2008, 12:38 PM
2nd Generation Colt 3rd Dragoon, or a Pedersoli flintlock Pennsylvania Rifle, or a Pedersoli Howdah Pistol.

I have spoken. ;)

Oldsportokie
August 27, 2008, 02:32 PM
Sharps rifles are replicated in forms that were much soughtafter during the Civil war. Manufacturers are building plain to fancy works of art.

scrat
August 28, 2008, 12:18 AM
i dont know about paper cartridge sharps. however i sure would love a 45-90 or 45-110. Wow that is a sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet rifle

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