Small gun manufacturers we need to support


August 25, 2008, 01:06 AM
What small gun manufacturers do we need to specifically support because this particular maker manufactures super politically incorrect firearms that the atf would love to find a reason to put out of business?

These would be manufacturers who aren't going to get a gravy train defense contract.

One manufacturer that I have found which is particularly vulnerable to batfe attack is masterpiece arms. ATF has a history of attacking mac makers (remember atf's despicable war against SWD in the 1980s where atf invented charges which came to nothing but essentially bankrupted SWD?)

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Kind of Blued
August 25, 2008, 01:08 AM
The whole ordeal with Cavalary Arms is kind of unreal. I have no idea what's going on with them.

Aguila Blanca
August 25, 2008, 01:52 AM
Any company that makes AR-15s, I guess ...

August 25, 2008, 02:08 AM
I'm an 07 FFL. I make ARs for California gun owners and do quite a bit of transfers to them for dealers that don't want to ship there.

August 25, 2008, 07:22 AM

August 25, 2008, 07:41 AM
Historic Arms LLC has been on the ATF's radar for quite a while now...

August 25, 2008, 09:00 AM

I guess Barrett is pretty small in the grand scheme of things... But I think they seem to be doing pretty ok for themselves.

August 25, 2008, 09:37 AM
Robinson Arms and the XCR.

Apart from having an AR-15 ergonomics look, it has working part elements derived from both the FAL and the AK.

The AWB trifecta, how more non-PC can you get.......:evil:

August 25, 2008, 09:47 AM
Seecamp. They make nasty little guns with no apparent 'sporting' purpose.

August 25, 2008, 09:51 AM
Cavalary Arms comes to mind.

August 25, 2008, 10:04 AM
I believe that any manufacturer, large or small, should be supported strictly on the basis of the quality of their merchandise. If they make good stuff, it will sell well, and they will do well- and in many cases, be able to get bigger.

The only manufacturer I supported for other than this reason is CavArms, because of the BATFE Deus-Ex-Machina screwing they got.

August 25, 2008, 12:30 PM
Accusations are cheap. Defense is expensive.

Every BATFE agent, every prosecuting attorney, and every ex-wife and soon-to-be ex-wife knows this.

August 25, 2008, 12:36 PM
Kel-Tec :)

August 25, 2008, 02:31 PM

These guys make .50BMG's, 20mm rifles, and I beleive also make some other types of really big guns too. Not sure if they have ever been hassled by the BATFE or the antis specifically, but I'd have to think that 20mm and 50bmg guns, and thus thier makers, will be near the top of any ban list.

Plus, I want one of you to buy that 20mm rifle and let me shoot it, so lets suppport these guys! :D

I'll agree Cavalry Arms should be at the top of any support list too, since they are currently and actively getting screwed HARD. I suspect the BATFE screwed up raiding them, and taking all thier stuff, and probly knows it by now, but they arent in the habit of giving stuff back, or admitting they screwed up, so I suspect they will try to drive them into bankruptcy as a way to cover thier screwup, as a company, and it's owners that have NO money, cant afford to sue the BATFE for screwing up.

Just a guess on that one, but it seems like a real possibility to me.

August 25, 2008, 02:45 PM
yep, when I save up some cash, (or if the election goes bad I will be buying a stripped one frome them) I getting a Cav arms reciver to support them in there need.

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