Which Tech Sight for 10/22 Appleseed?


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lesjones
August 25, 2008, 11:54 PM
I'm going to the Manchester, TN Appleseed shoot in September. I've picked up a Ruger 10/22 and want to set it up with a Tech Sight. Appleseed recommends it, and I'm good with that. I prefer aperture sights to open sights, and the Tech Sight is much easier to adjust than the factory standard.

Question is, which one? Tech makes two models for the 10/22:

http://www.tech-sights.com/ruger3.htm

That's the TS100 on the left and the TS200 on the right:

http://www.tech-sights.com/updates%20for%20ruger/close%20up%20rear.jpg

Any voice of experience advice on which one to get?

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For Freedom
August 25, 2008, 11:57 PM
I can no longer recommend Tech Sights. My gunsmith and I discussed it today and I decided to take mine off and put a red dot on my 10/22. Tech Sights are actually made in Taiwan and are made out of aluminum. My front sight would not stay tight.

If you do choose to use Tech Sights anyways, I recommend the TSR100, and I also recommend the adjustment tool.

For Freedom
August 26, 2008, 09:37 PM
Any more comments?

hawkhavn
August 27, 2008, 07:59 AM
Les,

I went with the TSR200 for my Appleseed loaner rifle. Everyone that has used it has had good success with it, it has stayed securely mounted and is easily adjusted as long as you have the adjustment tool.

Thanks for coming out to the shoot in Manchester.

Hawkhavn
RWVA Instructor and IN State coordinator

cmidkiff
August 27, 2008, 10:39 AM
A 10/22 is a great tool for Appleseed, allows you to improve your skills without spending hundreds of dollars in ammo. You're unlikely to try long range shooting with a .22lr, and even more unlikely to hit anything if you do :) The range adjustment on the tech sights isn't really necessary, since you'll pretty much be locked in at 25 yards (at least with the .22). If you see yourself shooting at various ranges with the .22 outside of an Appleseed, the TS200 model might be a better choice.

I don't know why mounting an aluminum sight to an aluminum receiver would be a problem... Won't stay mounted? The rear is screwed down, so I'm guessing it was the front you had trouble with. Sometimes those dovetails need a little fitting, but I'm quite surprised a competent gunsmith couldn't make it work. Not been my experience, anyway.

Made in Taiwan? Yeah, I'd prefer to buy US as well, if someone in the US offered an alternative. Where'd you find a reasonably priced US made red dot?

sefus
August 27, 2008, 05:22 PM
One of the points of an Appleseed is to shoot without optics, that said, I love my TS-100s.

-Sefus

Mot45acp
August 27, 2008, 06:12 PM
I'm not 100% but I think the owner/creator of Tech Sights is a member here.

41magsnub
August 27, 2008, 07:34 PM
I can't speak to the appleseed part yet since I haven't been to one yet (signed up for one in 3 weeks but it's only me thus far and it may get canceled).

However, I have tech sights on my 10/22 and it is the short little carbine one. I needed the TS200 model because zero at 25 yards was outside the range of adjustment on front sight for me so I had to make up the different in the back (shot way too high). I had that problem with every sight I have tried on this gun except the factory one which I detested, but now I am set.

Danus ex
August 27, 2008, 07:51 PM
These sights are hit and miss for me. I have a TS200 rear sight, and feel I should have bought a TS100. My rifle hit way, way high with the first front sight post that came, but Tech Sights has taller front sight posts available cheaply which corrected that problem. The polish-blued rear aperture on the TS200 makes shooting under the bright sun incredibly difficult without hooding the sight with your hand.

My beef is with the front sight block. It's made from cast aluminum, bends easily and your rifle's front sight dovetail actually cuts the aluminum front sight block when you install it, giving you a perfect fit, but no tension, so your front sight can slide right out from gravity. Tech Sights' solution to this is a set screw, which is OK except that the weak aluminum front sight block dovetail will bend with even the slightest tension, tilting your sight block upward. There must be a better front sight out there.

Overall I'm satsified, but it took a tall front sight, careful work and a second front sight block to make the planets align. With these sights, it's almost unchallengingly easy to pop Spaghetti-Os cans and little tomato paste cans at 100 yards.

hqmhqm
August 27, 2008, 08:10 PM
I have the 200 model, with elevation adjustment. I like it fine, but would prefer the model 100, because it is lower to the receiver and would allow for better cheek weld. I don't know about the front sight, I guess you'd need shorter front sight, which someone mentioned.

KBintheSLC
August 28, 2008, 02:24 PM
Tech Sights are actually made in Taiwan and are made out of aluminum. My front sight would not stay tight.

Gotta use plenty of red loctite on that set screw... also, using one of these helps lock it in place too...
http://www.tacticalinc.com/1022-muzzle-break-flash-hider-blued-steel-p-514.html

and whats wrong with using anodized aluminum for gun parts? I have 2 great pistols that use aluminum for the frame and take the abuse of a steel slide racking them over and over.

I like my TS100... I didn't feel the need to have an extra elevation adjustment on the back... I just set my front post and have 2 apertures in the rear to choose from (50yds-100yds). I just set it and forget it. I can regularly pull off 3"-4" groups at 100 yards with these on a stock barrel.

As for the "made in Taiwan" issue, I bet if we all start rummaging through our stuff, we will find plenty of that... The global economy is not something that will go away any time soon. I'd rather have it come from Taiwan than from China anyway... at least you are not feeding the beast.

Bwana John
August 28, 2008, 02:50 PM
I think you should buy centerfire ammo for your MBR and use that instead.

funfaler
August 28, 2008, 09:25 PM
CAUTION:

The TSR-200 have some issues. On some rifles, with some shooters, there is not enough elevation adjustment (even with the front and rear sights adjustable) to allow for a good 25 meter zero.

Some folks do OK, but many others can not properly zero their rifles at 25 meters. This would require a taller front sight.

My recommendation, is the TSR-100. It has plenty of elevation adjustment. Flipping the aperature, gives you about an 8 moa sight change.

It is very good for Appleseed applications and with the flip sight, should handle most other ranges that you would want to shoot a 22 at.

Enjoy your shoot, Manchester is really coming on as a great Appleseed location!

Andrew Wyatt
August 29, 2008, 01:48 AM
Why are you zeroing it at 25 meters?


I zero mine at 75. it's within a couple inches either way out to about 125

For Freedom
August 29, 2008, 01:50 AM
I've never been to an Appleseed but I've heard all the shooting is done at 25 yards. So that's why you'd zero at 25.

Andrew Wyatt
August 29, 2008, 12:49 PM
well, that makes sense on some level, though it makes the gun less suitable for actually using it in the field.

funfaler
August 29, 2008, 05:23 PM
The concept of using the 10/22, in an Appleseed setting, is to give the shooter a "trainer rifle", that can be used at 25 meters, for this sort of shooting and practice.

With the flip sight, being able to raise the point of impact 8 moa, the TSR-100 works both in Appleseed and "field" applications.

The TSR-200 still requires a tool to adjust, both the front and rear sights, thus does not lend itself to sight adjustments for range, in the field.

The 10/22 has proven to be an excellent trainer, giving folks the opportunity to gain valuable shooting skills, without having to spend a fortune on ammo. These skills directly transfer to any rifle, thus giving folks more valuable trigger pulls, without the pain in the wallet. This means they actually shoot more, building more solid skills.

lesjones
August 29, 2008, 11:25 PM
I went to a friend's house this morning and shot a 10/22 of his with a TechSight TS-100 and Volquartsen extractor and hammer. That was a nice setup. I'm going to get the same parts, a front sight adjustment tool, and a sling, and call it good.

Oohrah
August 31, 2008, 04:51 AM
Listen to Funfaler he has been around Appleseed for a while. The two I
attended were fired at 25 meters at reduced size targets. Seen most
every type of sight represented. The first one attended milsurp center
fire was obtainable at sort of an affordable price. The transition to more
22s occured when the ammo prices shot sky high.

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