[ChristopherG]

A simple question, I think:

Why do SASS shooters generate such a huge market for rnfp bullets? Does is all boil down to the fact that ogival bullets feed well in lever action rifles, and flat points don't threaten chain-ignition in a tubular magazine? Or is there some inherent advantage of the bullet design? Or is is supposed to be somehow more authentic than another style?

Merci-
CG

[Jim Watson]

Right in one.
The flat point is for safety in tube magazines, the "round nose" is for feeding; not all lever actions will handle SWCs.

Authenticity? Sure, that's what was used.

[Steve Smith]

Beats me. They don't actually shoot, do they? Don't they just parade (promenade?) around in their fancy duds and pretend to be Hopalong Cassidy?

(ducking and running)

[Detritus]

GET A ROPE!!! :fire:


sorry steve couldn't resist :D

Actually i'd hate to be on the other end of a run-in with some of those guys if they had to defend themselves, alot of them shoot SAAs faster than i can a 1911!!! :what:

Sgt Detritus SASS# 40649

[Andrew Wyatt]

Actually i'd hate to be on the other end of a run-in with some of those guys if they had to defend themselves, alot of them shoot SAAs faster than i can a 1911!!!


They're great to be with if the enemy is very large steel plates very close, or is shaped like beer bottles and stuff. :)

[Shooter973]

They work very well in lever action rifles and as bowling pin bullets. They don't hang up on the shoulder like a SWC can and they do hit a little harder than Plain round nose. They work very well in speed loaders to, just slide right in!! I like them a lot. After all the buffulo were nearly wiped out with Round nose bullets. :)

[Dr.Rob]

Cowboy shooting looks fun.

The bullets are indeed more realistic, and the low fps means you don't have to paint the steels as much.

(Still saving up to get the second 44 Vaquero and matching rifle.)

[ChristopherG]

Thanks, all, for your answers and input.

My 12-year old is hot for me to get into CAS--mainly 'cause of the duds. Is there anything more vain than a 12 year old? I'm busy trying to learn to shoot one of them newfangled double action revolvers.

My interest in the rnfps was piqued when I came across a neat looking 225 gr. .41 rnfp earlier today, casting around for cast bullets. These folks make 'em:

http://www.sureshotbullets.com/

Anybody used their products? They look a bit softer than your typical mass-produced hardcast (15 brinnel, vs. a typical 21-22), but I wouldn't want to push them all that fast--maybe a touch over a thou. Any thoughts?

merci encore--
CG

[Archie]

but I wouldn't want to push them all that fast--maybe a touch over a thou. Any thoughts? Yes... all you are doing in most cases is punching a hole in paper, or ringing a gong, or popping a balloon. You don't need near "a thou."
What you do want is a load that will work in both your carbine and revolver. You want it near the low end, to save powder, money and your nerves.

And the dress up aspect is a lot of fun.

[Detritus]

I wouldn't want to push them all that fast--maybe a touch over a thou

Just so you're aware, if i remember the guidelines correctly (can't find my shooter's hand book) anything over aproximately 900FPS is prohibited, out of the pistols, and 1,400 out of the rifles.

these maybe off a bit, but they're fairly close to what the rulebook says. also a lot of the top shooters are loading WAY below that, as far as i know there is no "minimum" muzzle velocity (this has been complained about numerous times, by those of us who shoot [in my case shot] standard loads)

here on THR we talk of Mouseguns, on the SASSWire (http://www.sassnet.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi) they speak of "MouseFART loads"

if oyu really are interested go over th the wire, and find out where the nearest club is. (don't know where in NC you are but the Sir Walter Raleigh gun club ner Butner has a nice setup for CAS) go and talk to them, they might just loan you anyting that you DON'T have at the moment that is needed Equipment (lord knows the club i joined would!! (threatened to prop me up on the line with a board! :D )

Dr Rob you ought to take note of that too ;) most SASS groups i've shot with will gladly give you whatever piece of shoot gear you need, though it IS considered polite to bring your own ammo, (factory "CowBoy" fodder, like Black Hills) most common chambering being 38/357. i once shot a match with a .45colt rifle (mine) a 12ga SxS (mine) and a 38 Vaquero and a 44-40 2ndgen SAA (both pistols borrowed from different fellow shooters, most times if you lack pistols a spare SET).

[InTheBlack]

Don't get "low fps" into your head WRT cowboy shooting. The other day I realized that I shoot 200 gr lead bullets out of both my cowboy gun and my 45ACP, and the cowboy load printed in the Accurate powder handbook is about 100 fps faster than the load of W231 which I use to get a Power Factor of 165 for IDPA in my 1911..