Oleg Volk, Creepy as hell?


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DigitalWarrior
August 28, 2008, 03:53 PM
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/forum-fridays/ff08-25-08.php?page=3

They use one of my beloved Oleg's pictures, presumably without permission and call him "creepy as hell".

I was seriously going to join something awful for the forums. Now I cannot, because the guy who runs it is apparently a butthead :(.

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nalioth
August 28, 2008, 04:02 PM
SomethingAwful is satire.

Carlos Cabeza
August 28, 2008, 04:10 PM
Is that Oleg !!!! What, is it Halloween or something !?!??!. Oh, the second picture................That's what every little girl who's dad is a gunny wants for Christmas. Those DOODADS at whatever.com are just filling up space with something to talk about, no REAL content.

DigitalWarrior
August 28, 2008, 04:11 PM
Quoth the Wikipedia: In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement.

Are you saying that it is not the opinion of the author that Oleg is creepy as hell? Are you saying this (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/concealed-carry-renfest.php) was actually an endorsement of the right to self-defense? When he says "I have since determined that there are two types of people who carry guns around in public: people who use guns in their jobs and people who are stupid or crazy and should not be carrying guns around in public. I'm willing to be pretty forgiving on the former point. Guns are fine for any sort of law enforcement agents, firemen, private security guards, bail bondsmen, trick shooters, time traveling cowboys, and anyone else who actually uses a gun on the job. It's perfectly reasonably to arm yourself for all of those professions.

If, for example, you work at a data center monitoring server racks, you should not be carrying a gun. If you update a blog and surf the web for porn, you shouldn't be carrying a gun. Watching Penn & Teller's Bull****! and reading John Lott is not a good enough excuse to arm yourself for trips to the comic book store." was he being insincere?

TexasRifleman
August 28, 2008, 04:19 PM
was he being insincere?

You spelled it wrong. It's spelled M-O-R-O-N

PILMAN
August 28, 2008, 04:49 PM
I don't see what's creepy about it.

Drgong
August 28, 2008, 05:01 PM
I think that the reasion they said it was "Creepy" is that it is a photo of a 8 year old or so girl.

Though it prob would make people go "Who is Oleg Volk?" and look him up ;)

Darthbauer
August 28, 2008, 05:03 PM
Does Oleg know about this?

Chipperman
August 28, 2008, 05:22 PM
Probably most of the people reading that tripe have already made up their minds about guns. However, if it saves even one person from the Dark Side, it will have been worth it. All they need to do is look at the picture and click onto Oleg's site.

Vermont
August 28, 2008, 05:35 PM
I think that photo is creepy too. They remind me of the twins from The Shining...

Darthbauer
August 28, 2008, 05:48 PM
I think that photo is creepy too. They remind me of the twins from The Shining...


I was thinking that the girls are also creepy but I was thinking Village of the Damned.

redneckrepairs
August 28, 2008, 05:51 PM
If, for example, you work at a data center monitoring server racks, you should not be carrying a gun. If you update a blog and surf the web for porn, you shouldn't be carrying a gun. Watching Penn & Teller's Bull****! and reading John Lott is not a good enough excuse to arm yourself for trips to the comic book store."

Strangely enough i agree with them...





We have a RIGHT to arm and needs are irrelevant. Comic store beware lol . And for the record i find nothing " creepy " about a couple of young ladies and their ARs .

CannonFodder
August 28, 2008, 06:06 PM
Eh, it's somethingawful - it's like 4chan, only not as drippy.

Pay them no mind.

Oleg Volk
August 28, 2008, 06:28 PM
Saw them earlier. Any publicity...

And, yes, 4chan also has collections of my images. Viral RKBA marketing at work.

Gordon Fink
August 28, 2008, 07:03 PM
Yes, kids learning about something you donít understand or appreciate is obviously creepy. The children should be kept ignorant.

~G. Fink :rolleyes:

Jdude
August 28, 2008, 07:15 PM
Watching Penn & Teller's Bull****! and reading John Lott is not a good enough excuse to arm yourself for trips to the comic book store."
Hey wait a minute...

feedthehogs
August 28, 2008, 07:32 PM
Picture is a little disturbing.

But its art. And art is interpretation.

ASM826
August 28, 2008, 07:50 PM
Watching Penn & Teller's Bull****! and reading John Lott is not a good enough excuse to arm yourself for trips to the comic book store."

Redneckrepairs,

I'm with you.

I have a natural (or God-given) right, and I can decide to carry my means of self defense when I visit comic book stores just the same as I do at other times.

My rights are not up for critique, not from anyone.

ArfinGreebly
August 28, 2008, 07:51 PM
Well, for the "eeww that's creepy" crowd . . .

Whatever you do, don't go to either of Oleg's online compilations and look at the picture in context.

Avoid the context. You wouldn't want to know how it dovetails with the other presentations. Context-free presentation helps amplify the creepiness factor.

I only hope I can get my granddaughters to be that creepy.

Atticus_1354
August 28, 2008, 07:58 PM
So everyone that is getting uptight about this needs to realize that somethingawful is a joke website. They make fun of anything and everything. You also may not know that there is even a very active firearms section on the site.

doc2rn
August 28, 2008, 08:42 PM
My 6 yo daughter is that creepy :)

dalepres
August 28, 2008, 08:59 PM
That is very creepy. That purple AR-15 doesn't go with the girls clothes at all. The pink, on the other hand, goes very well with either girl's outfit.

Atticus
August 28, 2008, 09:06 PM
He's kooky too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL_9zdu4iVw

TexasRifleman
August 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
So everyone that is getting uptight about this needs to realize that somethingawful is a joke website. They make fun of anything and everything. You also may not know that there is even a very active firearms section on the site.

The problem with all that is that jokes are usually supposed to be funny.

There's nothing funny there.

Atticus_1354
August 28, 2008, 09:21 PM
True that particular joke isn't very funny to you, but do you get mad when somebody tells a bad joke about anything else. I happen to be a big fan of blondes and I still manage to keep my cool when someone tells an unfunny blond joke.

jakemccoy
August 28, 2008, 09:29 PM
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/concealed-carry-renfest.php

That editor (Zack Parsons) is trying to use humor, but he's not joking.

Atticus_1354
August 28, 2008, 09:38 PM
The section that was originally posted is a summary of recent threads in the gun forum. A discussion of Oleg Volk's creepy level had come up before in regard to that picture and others. So everyone that is trying to say this is anti-gunner propaganda and what not need to realize that some people like Volk and some think his work is creepy. It has nothing to do with guns. Also, Zack Parsons had nothing to do with the first link.

Gunnerpalace
August 28, 2008, 10:00 PM
To quote :because I love Counter-Strike so much that I want to drop $1200 on a .22 Magnum hand gun

Yes I am convinced the guy from that sight has absolutely NO idea what way is up,

And the Oleg piece I have no problem with it the kids seem obviously happy so Oh well. :rolleyes:

Stevie-Ray
August 28, 2008, 10:40 PM
He's kooky too. [Connie Stevens]Kooky, Kooky, lend me your comb[/Connie Stevens] Sorry, couldn't resist.:p

As far as the girls being creepy? I think they're cute as hell. And as far as the fashion statement? Well, even purple ARs go with blue jeans. Blue jeans go with everything.:D

Golden Hound
August 28, 2008, 11:02 PM
I wouldn't say either the photo or Oleg are "creepy" but I'm not really on board with idea of dolling up rifles to look like girly toys. I mean, they're not toys, so don't make them look like toys. Just my opinion though.

Bajee
August 28, 2008, 11:20 PM
I'm registered over at SA and I think most of you are assuming too much from one article. While the writer of that article was most definitely against guns, and not funny in the least, the forums themselves I would say tend to lean pro-gun rights. The subforum The Firing Range is my favorite gun forum on the web, mostly for the fact that it is totally free of right wing extremists who fantasize day and night about shooting brown people, the type of stuff that makes arfcom so nauseating. They also ban counter-strikery, which is good.

And also, yes I think Oleg is creepy. Not necessarily for the photo shown above (although I think that making guns looks like toys is extremely irresponsible), but for his borderline softcore porn pictures showing women placing the muzzles of guns down their panties. THATS creepy.

Aran
August 28, 2008, 11:27 PM
I, too, am a long time Goon, and I wouldn't take ANYTHING Parsons says as anything.

Though TFR IS the best gun forum, period.

Nolo
August 28, 2008, 11:37 PM
Unfortunately there comes times when satirists let their internal politics show through their normally funny if not hilarious work.
This is one of those times.
You can tell because it is not funny.
To anyone.
But the author.
Seriously, I can laugh at anything, including my friends, if it is sufficiently funny.
This just WASN'T FUNNY.
Not that "Oh, I'm offended, I might faint", but it did not make me laugh, not even chuckle inside.
In fact, I can't think of anyone who would think that was funny.
Thus, the author of the website meant it.
Normally, satire content that is anti-RKBA hits my funnybone (provided that it is genuinely funny).
This is just sad. Somethingawful had some good stuff, too.
Just oral diarrhea.
Pay no heed.
However, Oleg is right: it is advertisement for the reasoning human being.
And also, yes I think Oleg is creepy. Not necessarily for the photo shown above (although I think that making guns looks like toys is extremely irresponsible), but for his borderline softcore porn pictures showing women placing the muzzles of guns down their panties. THATS creepy.
Welcome to libertarianism: the right to be weird.
Is Oleg weird?
You bet.
So am I.
Truly everyone is weird. The only people who "aren't" are the ones who heed society enough to hide it.
Good thing? Bad thing? I dunno.
Creepy would be if Oleg forced the lovely ladies to do that. I am quite sure he didn't.
I guess my final point is: WHO CARES?
Besides, some of us like Oleg's near-porn. It's better than a lot of the other stuff that's got zero-artistic value.
Oops. Guess I just got this thread closed...:uhoh:
DISCUSSION END NOW.

physics
August 29, 2008, 12:01 AM
Guns are fine for any sort of law enforcement agents, firemen, private security guards, bail bondsmen, trick shooters, time traveling cowboys, and anyone else who actually uses a gun on the job.

Wait, why would a fireman need a gun on the job? Wouldn't that be a little bit dangerous carrying a loaded gun into a raging inferno?

Silvanus
August 29, 2008, 06:54 AM
You take issue with the fact that he mentions firemen, but the "time traveling cowboys" are OK? :p

RaspberrySurprise
August 29, 2008, 07:04 AM
I was seriously going to join something awful for the forums. Now I cannot, because the guy who runs it is apparently a butthead .
Hope you got 10 bux.

Chipperman
August 29, 2008, 09:59 AM
Wouldn't that be a little bit dangerous carrying a loaded gun into a raging inferno?


That's part of their safety equipment. When their gun cooks off, it's time to get out. :neener:

XDKingslayer
August 29, 2008, 10:08 AM
From the outside, some of Oleg's pictures look creepy. Even if you're pro gun, two little girls holding hands over ARs does look a little creepy.

That's just the way some people are going to interperet it and they're welcome to their opinion.

bmitchell
August 29, 2008, 10:30 AM
Did anyone else see this (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=2939888&pagenumber=1#pti2)?

Nolo
August 29, 2008, 10:40 AM
What, the Mosin paintball gun?
Yeah, I saw it.
Too bad the bolt doesn't actually work.
Don't really see how that's on topic, though...

- J -
August 29, 2008, 12:42 PM
As another "SA goon", my two cents:

Something Awful is meant to offend, provoke and ridicule by means of exaggeration, disproportion and satire.

This just WASN'T FUNNY.
Not that "Oh, I'm offended, I might faint", but it did not make me laugh, not even chuckle inside.
In fact, I can't think of anyone who would think that was funny.
Thus, the author of the website meant it.

I'm sorry, "I can't think of anyone who'd like it, thus the author meant it" is just wrong. Since when an author's intention depends on what a reader thinks?

Let me tell you, with all due respect: you are wrong. I thought the article was funny. Thus, the author meant it [to be funny].


Something Awful is written with a target audience in mind: young people, many in the IT field. I fit that target, so when I read If, for example, you work at a data center monitoring server racks, you should not be carrying a gun I laughed out loud, because (give or take), he could be talking about me as if he knew me. And really, let's be honest: datacenters are not dangerous places. Maybe the author intended to really offend me and he'd spit in my face if he could. But then...

It has become fashionable in TFR to mock people who take guns seriously as weapons instead of as toys.

Gtab is what we could call a "prominent member" of Something Awful's gun forum (TFR, The Firing Range). His words don't mean that TFR only views guns as toys... but it is an indicator of the satirical, "in jest" spirit of it. It is, first and foremost, a place to enjoy and have fun... serious stuff is welcomed when it's really well presented and sustained. But you'll find lots of gun-related humor, generated by the very patrons (not just copypasting lolcats from random websites).

As with all forms of humor, you might or might not enjoy it.

I, for one, hate Garfield.


That's made in Something Awful and it also made me laugh. Like the article which originated this thread did.


PS: Oh, and a thing to consider: the frontpage articles and the forums are two different entities, which no necessary congruence or correspondance. Maybe the author of that article really, truly, wishes for guns to be banned. It doesn't change a thing about what a great place TFR is to hang around.

S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
August 29, 2008, 12:53 PM
Another Goon reporting in. Most of the SA writers and members are insufferable anti-gun, liberal, tree hugging nitwits. The Firing Range is an island of sanity in the midst of all the nonsense.

But people who don't embrace the 2nd amendment mindset are going to find most of Oleg's photos a bit disturbing. Big deal.

deaconkharma
August 29, 2008, 12:57 PM
protecting and providing for my family?
It's a full time JOB.
Glad he approves!
.... like I needed it anyway :D

Tully M. Pick
August 29, 2008, 03:10 PM
Most of the SA writers and members are insufferable anti-gun, liberal, tree hugging nitwits.

They must post over on Fark, too.

Phil DeGraves
August 29, 2008, 03:16 PM
However, if it saves even one person from the Dark Side, it will have been worth it.

I always thought "Dark Side" meant they shot black powder...

Aran
August 29, 2008, 03:30 PM
Link/addition to crazy.txt in 3....2.....1.....

Bajee
August 29, 2008, 06:12 PM
Pretty much anything that gets said in TFR gets put into crazy.txt by the helldump trolls. It seems like its almost become a game in TFR to make helldumpers heads spin as much as possible.

Aran
August 29, 2008, 08:28 PM
crazy.txt is in TFR, you're thinking goons.txt

TexasRifleman
August 29, 2008, 08:36 PM
OK, this thread is now a teamspeak channel for the posters over there.

Time for the lock......

SaMx
August 29, 2008, 08:46 PM
Relax guys, its SA :rolleyes:

they have a reasonably active gun forum over there BTW

Owen
August 29, 2008, 08:53 PM
If you're worrying about what happens on Somethng Awful, you don't have enough to do.

JShirley
October 2, 2008, 05:09 PM
I think this has wandered far enough.

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